If Romo had done a Montana-style drive...

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That last drive against Washington (and maybe even the one before) we ended with Ogletree, Hanna and Dunbar playing as WRs, iirc. Romo had bruised his ribs again earlier, I think. Not an optimal comeback situation.
 

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Reverend Conehead;5079030 said:
I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.

He would not have been given any credit. When he wins it's not a big game and when he loses it's a big game.

If he ever leads the team to a Super Bowl win, I fully believe that he won't get any of the credit.
 

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Given how banged up the team was, I doubt anyone would have expected much in the playoffs. Hard to play the "what if" game though.
 

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Idgit;5079041 said:
Had he not thrown the obvious pick on our opening drive, a comeback likely would not have been necessary.

If he wouldn't have thrown 2 costly picks a comeback attempt wouldn't have had to happen.. but then we know he threw the 3rd one to put the nail in the coffin.
 

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rbr651;5079098 said:
Nice try, only one of the interceptions ended in Commander points, without that one the score still ends up being 21-18 Washington. Maybe the most logical thing would be to ask WHY the defense gave up 21 points. Or why the defense gave up nearly 300 yards rushing. The punting was also terrible as it had been the majority of the season. Although he had horrible stats for the game Tony was a drop in the bucket as to why we lost that game. This was an effort put forth by the entire team, and I say effort because that it what it takes to play a game so poorly. That might have been as poor a game that I've seen from a Cowboys defense since 1989.

What you aren't realizing is that without that first pick at least, we would have put points on the board. Also the 2nd pick happened when we were at the 50 yard line and it is possible we would have put points on the board again. Instead we got zero points. Just because the Commanders didn't immediately score points doesn't mean it didn't hurt us. That is just bad logic.

Romo was the weakest link by far in that game. No way around it.
 

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Joe Rod;5079205 said:
Given how banged up the team was, I doubt anyone would have expected much in the playoffs. Hard to play the "what if" game though.

I still would have preferred to win that game and the division. Seattle probably would have beat us, but you just never know. Would have loved to have a home playoff game.
 

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ufcrules1;5079219 said:
What you aren't realizing is that without that first pick at least, we would have put points on the board. Also the 2nd pick happened when we were at the 50 yard line and it is possible we would have put points on the board again. Instead we got zero points. Just because the Commanders didn't immediately score points doesn't mean it didn't hurt us. That is just bad logic.

Romo was the weakest link by far in that game. No way around it.

only for blind haters like you.

No one else.
 

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ufcrules1;5079213 said:
If he wouldn't have thrown 2 costly picks a comeback attempt wouldn't have had to happen.. but then we know he threw the 3rd one to put the nail in the coffin.
A great effort by our defense was wasted!
 

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Mr Cowboy;5079238 said:
A great effort by our defense was wasted!

As bad as our defense played, it was still good enough to keep the Cowboys in the game at the end with 3 minutes remaining and all timeouts. What happened next?
 

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Reverend Conehead;5079030 said:
I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.

until Romo wins a SB, nothing matters. Great drives, last minute come backs etc....nothing matters. Detractors will always have something negative to say or point out.

Don't listen and just go win a SB. Until then, he will always be under the gun.
 

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btcutter;5079320 said:
until Romo wins a SB, nothing matters. Great drives, last minute come backs etc....nothing matters. Detractors will always have something negative to say or point out.

Don't listen and just go win a SB. Until then, he will always be under the gun.

Not long ago, Dirk was the individual player that I most wanted to see lead his team to a Championship and shut the mouths of the clueless.
Well, he did it!

Next up...ROMO.
He is now by far the player I most want to see pull it off.
 

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DFWJC;5079329 said:
Not long ago, Dirk was the individual player that I most wanted to see lead his team to a Championship and shut the mouths of the clueless.
Well, he did it!

Next up...ROMO.
He is now by far the player I most want to see pull it off.

I would pay to see all the media retracting their comments and bow at the feet of Romo when he wins a SB. However, I don't know if this team can do it as long as JJ is at the helm.
 

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btcutter;5079370 said:
I would pay to see all the media retracting their comments and bow at the feet of Romo when he wins a SB. However, I don't know if this team can do it as long as JJ is at the helm.

I too would like to bow at the feet of Romo.. that would mean my team would have won a superbowl. I'm afraid it won't ever happen though. And not just because of JJ.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.

Or if Fasano had caught the one in the end zone that bounced off his facemask.

People who claim Romo can't get it done in the clutch somehow just ignore these two plays.


Monte Sliger
 

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ufcrules1;5079213 said:
If he wouldn't have thrown 2 costly picks a comeback attempt wouldn't have had to happen.. but then we know he threw the 3rd one to put the nail in the coffin.

I didn't then and still don't think the 3rd one put the nail in the coffin. It sure lined it up perfectly, though. IMO Hatcher swung the final hammer strike when he smacked RGIII in the head on the 3rd down incompletion with 2:30 to go. A Skin's FG would have put them up only 6 and the Cowboys would have had a little over 2 minutes to try and score a game winning TD.

I'm not absolving Romo of any blame, he played badly in that game. But that penalty truly killed almost ANY chance of a comeback (however remote that possibilty was). Both players made costly mistakes at a crucial time.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.

If ashante samuel could catch an easy int, eli manning would be a bum, if montana throws the pass to clark a little higher, who know what would have happened, ifs and buts are part of sports. Right now romo is just a talented qb who can't win a big game.
 

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cowboyfan4life2;5079621 said:
If ashante samuel could catch an easy int, eli manning would be a bum, if montana throws the pass to clark a little higher, who know what would have happened, ifs and buts are part of sports. Right now romo is just a talented qb who can't win a big game.

I don't know if you guys saw on the NFL Network a special called "One". It was all about #1 picks in the draft, one of which was Troy Aikman. They interviewed Aikman along with other players like Drew Bledsoe, Tim Couch, etc. giving advice to Andrew Luck. They talked with JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, and David Carr about their frustrations over not living up to expectations. Then they talked to QBs like Aikman and Eli Manning who have had the success. Aikman said a very telling thing. He said in his first year when he want 0 and 11 as a starter he kept asking himself, "What have you got to do to win in this league?" However, he was in the right system for him and was given the supporting cast he needed to be successful. He said he thought that some of the other guys who didn't make it likely would have if given what he was given.
 

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yeah, but he didn't. That is pretty important. He didn't
 

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Fansince64;5079496 said:
Or if Fasano had caught the one in the end zone that bounced off his facemask.

People who claim Romo can't get it done in the clutch somehow just ignore these two plays.


Monte Sliger

people who want to say differently ignore that "what if?" or "if only" don't count
 

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I think people are going WAY OVER THE TOP here regarding this discussion. And much of it is coming from one side who feels "haters" are never happy. I think people need to start reading a little more of what is on the board instead of crying so much. If Romo is clutch or wins a SB or whatever...people that are Cowboy fans will be happy. It's not going to take JUST a SB. I think what most are saying is..."yeah the guy has got mad skills and puts up numbers, he just needs to learn to stop the 10 cent brain mistakes that have plagued him in most seasons." If that happens and we win, what is there not to like? You really think people would be unhappy? That's just foolish talk. Also, Dirk was clutch already. They had made playoff runs for a decade. 2006 was more on refs and 2007 was the only year people got upset. But it wasn't like the guy couldn't win. So there is no comparison. The point is...some think its in Romo's DNA to throw a few games away every year and not get to the promised land. Some think he can overcome. The goal, even for the former, is for him to make them eat crow. Everyone wins.
 
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