If Teddy B. Does the Rodgers slide to 16, do you take him?

[reddyuta]

Yes.I am not not sure what jerry would do if a if a top qb slips to 16,he would probably draft manziel a and try to see if can get somebody to move up if Bridgewater falls.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

What kind of nonsense is this? Unless your last name is Manning you dont have a say in where you "want" to go coming into the NFL. Theoretically if Bridgewater or Manziel slide and the Cowboys draft them they'll be holding a clipboard for all of 6 weeks before they are starting.

Your projecting your fantasies aside, they absolutely have a say. It's just rarely exercised (a la Manning) because most teams aren't stupid enough to draft players they a) don't need and b) who don't want to be there.

 

[tm1119]

Not even a question. You grab a potential franchise qb at 16 no matter what

 

[The Natural]

Your projecting your fantasies aside, they absolutely have a say. It's just rarely exercised (a la Manning) because most teams aren't stupid enough to draft players they a) don't need and b) who don't want to be there.

No they dont

 

[Super_Kazuya]

No they dont

They absolutely have a say.

 

[The Natural]

They absolutely have a say.

Prove it. Dont quote me until you do please

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Prove it. Dont quote me until you do please

Your posts are so laughable I honestly don't think I could go very long without quoting you. It's just so irresistible.

Before I do prove it and then you move the goalpost like you always do, why don't you say upfront what it would take to prove it? You know darn well what I am trying to say, but you are obviously trying to twist it somehow.

 

[jhamilton8]

I'm not downgrading him because of his pro day... I saw him play and I came away unimpressed. He was outplayed by a freshman qb for goodness sake! How does that scream 1st rnd pick? He has a tiny frame. That means he can't really put on any meaningful weight.... I mean he is tiny! Have you seen his arms? He has a good arm but no better than most of the qb's in this class and he falls apart mentally under duress.

I'm curious what about him that made you think he was mentally weak. Was it when he was 14 and tried to drop out of school to get a job to help with his mom's cancer treatment bills? The guy led Louisville to a comeback with a broken wrist and sprained ankle in a game where Rutgers knew he could only take snaps out of shotgun with a BCS bowl on the line.

 

[The Natural]

Your posts are so laughable I honestly don't think I could go very long without quoting you. It's just so irresistible.

Before I do prove it and then you move the goalpost like you always do, why don't you say upfront what it would take to prove it? You know darn well what I am trying to say, but you are obviously trying to twist it somehow.

I dont think I've seen another poster on here say as much while not actually saying anything as much as you. To the ignore list you go.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

To the ignore list you go.

lol... yeah, right.

 

[DFWJC]

What we would do is irrelevant.

But if the FO really and truly thinks Bridgewater is a sure-fire franchise QB AND we have no player rated as highly as him in a position of greater need, yes, you take the player.

However, clearly common sense says that if Teddy fell all the way to 16, that means many, many teams have serious doubts that he is a true franchise QB.
Right?
If that unlikely scenario was true, there would be a real chance that Dallas may also feel that way. The same logic applies to Manziel or Bortles too.

It's all hypothetical, I'm sure most (though not all) teams feel he is . So, with all the QB needy teams out there, he will be long gone by 16.

 

[visionary]

I dont think I've seen another poster on here say as much while not actually saying anything as much as you. To the ignore list you go.

true dat
its because uncle jerry writes his talking points

 

[Western]

1. The quality of the top 10-12 players in this draft allows a "QB needy team" to bypass and trump a Manziel and/or Bridegwater selection and select a Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, J. Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Anthony Barr, Greg Robinson, Taylor Lewan, Justin Gilbert, Mike Evans, or Aaron Donald.

2. The "QB needy teams" also have the luxury in the early 2nd round if they feel compelled, to select a Carr, Garoppolo, or McCarron. In addition, the "QB needy teams" have veteran QB's already signed as protection in avoiding the obligatory demand in drafting a QB in the 1st round.

The assumption that "QB needy teams" are mandated to select a QB in the early 1st round overlooks the superior talent in other positions in the very early 1st round.
Dallas should feel fortunate and lucky if either Manziel or Bridgewater slides to them at 16.

 

[Vinnie2u]

What we would do is irrelevant.

But if the FO really and truly thinks Bridgewater is a sure-fire franchise QB AND we have no player rated as highly as him in a position of greater need, yes, you take the player.

However, clearly common sense says that if Teddy fell all the way to 16, that means many, many teams have serious doubts that he is a true franchise QB.
Right?
If that unlikely scenario was true, there would be a real chance that Dallas may also feel that way. The same logic applies to Manziel or Bortles too.

It's all hypothetical, I'm sure most (though not all) teams feel he is . So, with all the QB needy teams out there, he will be long gone by 16.

Thing is teams do let franchise qbs fall. Remember we picked spears over Rodgers

 

[Hardline]

I would let the clock run very close to the end hoping that phone rings with a great trade up offer. If not I still don't select him. He is not a franchise QB. if he was, he wouldn't be sliding.

 

[Gaede]

I would let the clock run very close to the end hoping that phone rings with a great trade up offer. If not I still don't select him. He is not a franchise QB. if he was, he wouldn't be sliding.

AH, I see you subscribe to the Mickey Spags philosophy

 

[DFWJC]

Thing is teams do let franchise qbs fall. Remember we picked spears over Rodgers

No doubt.

My point was that on draft day, as it turned out, most teams did not think Rodgers was a for sure franchise QB, or he would have been taken in the top 5 or so. If they knew what we know now, he goes #1 overall.
So this year, if a bunch of teams have enough doubts to let one of the higher rated QBs (at least by pre-draft ESPN, etc draftnix, but not necessarily GMs) fall, then why would Dallas think differently than the teams before them? They might, but it's not a given.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but players fall for a reason. It is clear indication of what teams (and not draft websight draft gurus) think of a player on draft day.

I can't see Bridgewater dropping to 16 this year. Manziel...maybe, but I doubt it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Nope.

Not because I am against taking a QB but because I don't really love Bridgewater.

 

[KB1122]

The bigger issue with the Pro Day is whether he shrinks under pressure. Being the Cowboys quarterback isn't the same as being the Panthers quarterback or the Falcons quarterback. You have to be able to stand the spotlight.

I'm not passing judgment either way.

 

[Hardline]

I would rather give up the farm for an Andrew Luck than throw the dice for a hope and a prayer for a potential franchise QB in late rounds or even a middle of the first round QB.