If this is true, why make it a priority?

[coult44]

Just heard on SC that regardless of where Tony ends up playing, he is going to cost us a minimum of 19 million in cap space this year. If this is true, why move him or allow him to leave, unless we get a great offer? At this point, Jerry and Son need to over look their love for Tony, and do what's best for the team right? I know that 24 million is too much for a back up, but 19 is too much in dead money to let him go without getting something great in return. We are talking 5 million. Is 5 million worth having a good backup or not? I had no idea that we were going to be stuck with a 19+ million hit regardless of cutting him, trading him, or him calling it quits. Which is my next question. If a player hangs them up for medical reasons, why should the team be penalized and have to be stuck with cap problems for that reason? There should be an exception for medical retirements.

Anyways, can one of our gurus clear this up for me?

 

[Alexander]

Simple. You don't need this hanging around all off season. If you have no intention of having him compete for the job, move on. The money is sunk cost, this is more about how to move forward.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Because 5.1 million in savings and whatever you can get for him in a trade is better than nothing and he is not going to want to stay as a back up.

 

[Ranching]

Tony wasn't much of a distraction the last half of the season. I think we'd be fine if he is on the team next year, great insurance policy. I too, will hate to see him go for nothing. It would be great for him to retire and slide into the front office. I believe that would be the only way we could recover some money.

 

[TonyS]

Color me one of the Zoners who would like to see Romo come back and compete for the starting job next year and if he can't win it, we either trade him or he stays the backup. I think one of the driving forces, however, in making him a June 1st cut is that it puts less money on his cap hit for 2018 as well. So that is an added benefit to the $5 Million we save this year. But I agree with our overall premise. A solid backup QB (and I don't think Moore is) in FA would cost $2-$3 Million per year most likely, which means our benefit is only $2-$3 Million next year, but more in 2018. Someone has probably answered this by the time I typed it, but if not, they can chime in as well.

Great article here about it...

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017...backup-dallas-cowboys-dak-prescott-salary-cap

 

[HomeBiscuit]

I thought it was only 10 million if cut after June 1st. Plus I'm sure they'd restructure him to much better terms if them and tony decide he stays with us to backup, mentor, or dominate when called upon.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I think you would also get the dead money off the books sooner.

 

[Ranching]

Because 5.1 million in savings and whatever you can get for him in a trade is better than nothing and he is not going to want to stay as a back up.

We don't have to move him, if he doesn't want to be a backup, he can retire. I don't think Jerry forces him to stay, his emotions will get in the way. He needs to do what's best for the team and not what's best for Romo, no matter how close they are. Get something for him or force him to make the decision, be a backup or retire.

 

[xwalker]

Just heard on SC that regardless of where Tony ends up playing, he is going to cost us a minimum of 19 million in cap space this year. If this is true, why move him or allow him to leave, unless we get a great offer? At this point, Jerry and Son need to over look their love for Tony, and do what's best for the team right? I know that 24 million is too much for a back up, but 19 is too much in dead money to let him go without getting something great in return. We are talking 5 million. Is 5 million worth having a good backup or not? I had no idea that we were going to be stuck with a 19+ million hit regardless of cutting him, trading him, or him calling it quits. Which is my next question. If a player hangs them up for medical reasons, why should the team be penalized and have to be stuck with cap problems for that reason? There should be an exception for medical retirements.

Anyways, can one of our gurus clear this up for me?

None of that really matters. Only his 14M salary is relevant. If he stays, it adds 14M to the cap when all years are considered as compared to him leaving which adds zero.

Dead-money is money that he has already received and will hit the cap at some point with or without him on team.

 

[gmoney112]

None of that really matters. Only his 14M salary is relevant. If he stays, it adds 14M to the cap when all years are considered as compared to him leaving which adds zero.

Dead-money is money that he has already received and will hit the cap at some point with or without him on team.

Yep. Basically it comes down to paying 14 mill to keep him, or saving 5 mill to trade/release. You can save more this year with a June 1St, but the rest goes to next year and the 5 mill saved is still the net gain, just a way to manipulate the cap.

 

[Daillest88]

We save 5.1 if we cut him before June 1st and have 25.3 or so off the books next year.

 

[xwalker]

Yep. Basically it comes down to paying 14 mill to keep him, or saving 5 mill to trade/release. You can save more this year with a June 1St, but the rest goes to next year and the 5 mill saved is still the net gain, just a way to manipulate the cap.[/QUOTE
None of the this year, next year, June 1st stuff matters. The total amount of cap impact over all years is all that matters. They can restructure contracts if the need space this year.

The 5M "savings" in 2017 includes a 9M "savings" in 2018. Notice that 9 + 5 = 14.

 

[robjay04]

We save money in future years as well by getting rid of him if I understand correctly which helps in free agency assuming we sign players to back loaded deals---usually the first year of any contract isn't much.

Regardless, it's time to move on. Dak has earned the right to be the starter of this team without the cameras shifting to Romo every time he makes a bad pass. I love Tony as much as the next but it's in everyone's best interest to move on.

 

[DandyDon52]

the benefit of keeping him outweighs letting him go and getting nothing but cap savings.
thats all I will say.
Well also any cap savings, it depends on what cowboys do with that money, if mis spent like on cedrik thornton,
then that is wasted too.

 

[DandyDon52]

Dak has earned the right to be the starter of this team

He has no doubt, but so has tony.
The thing is Dak is young and has many years to do his thing, but I for one would like to see tony
get 1 last shot with this team, with a healthy dez and elliot.
If he goes down then Dak takes over, it is pretty simple.

It also is about what gives dallas the best chance for a SB run in 2017.
Some will say Dak, some will say Tony.
I think the phil game showed Tony can move the offense better than Dak at this point, Dak is still learning.
The only question is tony mr glass or not ?? play him in pre season and find out.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Tony honestly doesn't want to be here. He wants to be a starter and play Football. It's not going to happen here, so let him move on.

 

[Ranching]

Tony honestly doesn't want to be here. He wants to be a starter and play Football. It's not going to happen here, so let him move on.

Let him move on, but get as much as you can. Don't let him walk just to make him happy.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

The problem is you still habe to sign a backup QB if you do cut him. If thats 3 million you're saving only 2 million.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

Keep Romo

Keeps Prescott on his toes.
Continues to teach Prescott
Provides security in case of injury.
Provides security in case of sophomore slump
Wins job outright by performing at a higher level than Prescott.

Provides media with ammo for creating a QB controversy
Takes up cap space

Discard Romo

Save some salary cap room.
Forces media to come up with another story to distract the team.
Keeps the Romo haters happy.

 

[robjay04]

He has no doubt, but so has tony.
The thing is Dak is young and has many years to do his thing, but I for one would like to see tony
get 1 last shot with this team, with a healthy dez and elliot.
If he goes down then Dak takes over, it is pretty simple.

It also is about what gives dallas the best chance for a SB run in 2017.
Some will say Dak, some will say Tony.
I think the phil game showed Tony can move the offense better than Dak at this point, Dak is still learning.
The only question is tony mr glass or not ?? play him in pre season and find out.

It logically doesn't make sense for one huge reason.

We have two seasons to evaluate Dak before his agent is asking for a contract well over 100 million.

Do you waste one of those two seasons on Romo? And then Dak turns around has a soso year in 2018 and then we have his agent pushing us hard for a huge extension.

From a money standpoint, you have to take Dak's 700K a year as a blessing and build around that before you have to make a huge, team altering investment.

Personally, I think we are a better team more equipped to win a Super Bowl if we are paying Dak/JPP(example) over Dak/Romo for the next two seasons.