If this is true, why make it a priority?

[pete026]

Discard Romo

Save some salary cap room.
Forces media to come up with another story to distract the team.
Keeps the Romo haters happy.
Allows Romo lovers to make up stuff Romo would have done if he was Cowboys QB.

Fixed that for ya!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

How is this still confusing? Crazy.

 

[xwalker]

The problem is you still habe to sign a backup QB if you do cut him. If thats 3 million you're saving only 2 million.

NO, they save 14M if he is gone vs keeping him.

If the backup QB costs 3M, then they save 11M.

 

[xwalker]

He has no doubt, but so has tony.
The thing is Dak is young and has many years to do his thing, but I for one would like to see tony
get 1 last shot with this team, with a healthy dez and elliot.
If he goes down then Dak takes over, it is pretty simple.

It also is about what gives dallas the best chance for a SB run in 2017.
Some will say Dak, some will say Tony.
I think the phil game showed Tony can move the offense better than Dak at this point, Dak is still learning.
The only question is tony mr glass or not ?? play him in pre season and find out.

They won 13 games with Dak. The playoff loss was NOT the fault of the QB.

Dak will get even better with time due to experience while Romo will only decline due to age.

 

[robjay04]

NO, they save 14M if he is gone vs keeping him.

If they backup QB costs 3M, then they save 11M.

People are only thinking short term with this. Even if we only take him 5 million in savings in 2016, that will be 5 extra million dollars to get creative in free agency if we wanted to make a splash. Most big time free agent contracts have a substantially lower cap hit during the first year of the contract.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

They won 13 games with Dak. The playoff loss was NOT the fault of the QB.

Dak will get even better with time due to experience while Romo will only decline due to age.

Or he may not be in the league in three years. You have no clue one way or the other.

If you think that all a QB does is throw the ball, then no, the playoff loss was not the fault of the QB. Otherwise his .000 playoff winning percentage is well deserved.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

They won 13 games with Dak. The playoff loss was NOT the fault of the QB.

Dak will get even better with time due to experience while Romo will only decline due to age.

It's impossible to say what the flow of the game would have been like with a better QB in the game. If we don't go down 21-3 everything else changes. Maybe Romo makes more reads and checks at the line? Maybe we can run more early? Maybe the pressure of facing a high octane offense firing on all cylinders leads to more aggressive play calling and a turnover for the Packers? Maybe Rodgers presses a bit more?

Dak finished strong but he was not objectively playing 'well' for most of the game.

Now your last point about Dak improving and Romo eventually declining is all fair. But what is a championship worth?

 

[fredp22]

Just heard on SC that regardless of where Tony ends up playing, he is going to cost us a minimum of 19 million in cap space this year. If this is true, why move him or allow him to leave, unless we get a great offer? At this point, Jerry and Son need to over look their love for Tony, and do what's best for the team right? I know that 24 million is too much for a back up, but 19 is too much in dead money to let him go without getting something great in return. We are talking 5 million. Is 5 million worth having a good backup or not? I had no idea that we were going to be stuck with a 19+ million hit regardless of cutting him, trading him, or him calling it quits. Which is my next question. If a player hangs them up for medical reasons, why should the team be penalized and have to be stuck with cap problems for that reason? There should be an exception for medical retirements.

Anyways, can one of our gurus clear this up for me?

to answer your question about if a player leaves for medical reasons- the guarantee portion of the contract is just that- guaranteed. Its divided over the life of the contract when signed. If a player leaves early the remaining guaranteed money is escalated and hit to the cap. It can be moved to another team but only if traded. If player leaves for any other reason or way the cap gets hit for rest of guarantee immediately

re the 5 million- we are in cap hell right now. we are dead last in cap ranking and 15mm over for 2017 for now. the 5 million is a a 33% relief. another poster also started a post asking why we are in such bad cap shape . link for cap- http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/
Then u have the problem of will Romo take the backup position- he may demand a trade.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

All you folks that keep saying keep Romo as backup or if he can't beat it Dak as starter trade him........Are being foolish. There is no way Romo will be a backup this season for Dallas. Not only that if he can't beat out Dak for the starting job why would someone trade for him.

Romo is gone. The minute Dak took the starting job last year and got us to 13-2 Romo was done here. Dak is our QB and if you Romo lovers can't accept that then follow Romo to which ever team he still be on next year

 

[Hardline]

Since the Cowboys have no intention to sign top notch free agents then cap space doesn't mean ad much. Romo's greatest value is on this team. If Romo is given the chance to compete for his starting position he most likely wins it.

 

[Doomsday]

It isn't about 2017's CAP savings as much as it is about 2018 and 2019.

This means Romo has $19.6 million remaining of unamortized signing bonus. If he is traded or retires, that would accelerate onto the 2017 ledger, meaning the Cowboys would save $5.1 million of space on next year’s cap from what they are “expected” to carry currently.

That would also clear up $25.2 million of 2018 space that is currently earmarked for Romo, and $23.7 million of similar 2019 space.

 

[yimyammer]

Tony wasn't much of a distraction the last half of the season. I think we'd be fine if he is on the team next year, great insurance policy. I too, will hate to see him go for nothing. It would be great for him to retire and slide into the front office. I believe that would be the only way we could recover some money.

I agree and I don't think its completely certain he wouldn't consider staying on in Dallas as a backup.

His family is here, he just built a house here, he loves the Cowboys. I feel its almost certain he wouldn't be willing to play for a team unless he felt they had a chance at a Super Bowl, so if none meet his requirements, he's left with retiring or being a backup in Dallas where at least circumstances might arise that turn him into a starter again.

I'm not suggesting the chances are extremely high he'd come back as a back up, just that when the dust settles, there will be a greater than zero chance he'd do it

 

[DandyDon52]

It's impossible to say what the flow of the game would have been like with a better QB in the game. If we don't go down 21-3 everything else changes. Maybe Romo makes more reads and checks at the line? Maybe we can run more early? Maybe the pressure of facing a high octane offense firing on all cylinders leads to more aggressive play calling and a turnover for the Packers? Maybe Rodgers presses a bit more?

Dak finished strong but he was not objectively playing 'well' for most of the game.

Now your last point about Dak improving and Romo eventually declining is all fair. But what is a championship worth?

Good post , if it was 21-21 everything is different.

The thing about comebacks, is they are fun to watch and exciting, but I include even rodger S. in this , the only reason
a team is making a comeback, is they got beat bad early in the game.
Then the other team relaxes, and play more of a prevent defense, and then the other team then comes back.

If you dont play bad early you dont need a comeback.

It all started with dallas up 3-0, and then dallas gets caught in the sub, and on 3rd and 5 around their own 25 GB gets a
gifted first down. after that GB had the momentum.
Also after that play dallas was so disorganized they had to call a timeout , as they were not ready lol.

Jason Garrett is 1-4 against GB and McCarthy !! the only win was early this season when packers
were playing bad , and dak was hot.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

NO, they save 14M if he is gone vs keeping him.

If the backup QB costs 3M, then they save 11M.

Yes, but the money is useless for free agency.... The actual cost is the same its just spread across two years instead of 1.

 

[AzorAhai]

Exactly. Having Romo as the b/u for one years is not worth the 14 million lost over the next 2 years. Especially when he's going to be a pissed off b/u with a lot of friends in the locker room and media.

 

[haleyrules]

Tony simple can not be part of this club going on. It doesn't work that way. He is done in Dallas and both the club and Prescott need Tony to be gone. Its unhealthy to pretend that it can end otherwise. Time to go forward and see just where that takes the Team.!!

 

[Cowboy89]

It's time to move on and go with Dak. I'm personally exhausted of all the Romo talk.

 

[DandyDon52]

It logically doesn't make sense for one huge reason.

We have two seasons to evaluate Dak before his agent is asking for a contract well over 100 million.

Do you waste one of those two seasons on Romo? And then Dak turns around has a soso year in 2018 and then we have his agent pushing us hard for a huge extension.

From a money standpoint, you have to take Dak's 700K a year as a blessing and build around that before you have to make a huge, team altering investment.

Personally, I think we are a better team more equipped to win a Super Bowl if we are paying Dak/JPP(example) over Dak/Romo for the next two seasons.

well you make a good point Rob, but isnt dak on a 4 year contract?
And like I said any money saved, has to be well spent, and cowboys have been kinda lame in FA signings.
Jerry wants a wardaddy lol, but you never know how that will work out or who it is etc.
I doubt they keep romo, the decision is the jones boys to make.

if phil can get a # 1 for bradford, dallas should get that for Tony, but they may have for opportunity to wait to do that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

if phil can get a # 1 for bradford, dallas should get that for Tony

Given his age and health......no.

 

[csirl]

The bonus money is spent. It will count towards the cap sometime no matter what happens.

The 14m a year salary only counts if Romo stays. In simplistic terms this will be extra money to count against the cap.

14m = 2 x starters or locking down our OL. Will improve the team more than retaining Romo.