If this is true, why make it a priority?

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He has no doubt, but so has tony.
The thing is Dak is young and has many years to do his thing, but I for one would like to see tony
get 1 last shot with this team, with a healthy dez and elliot.
If he goes down then Dak takes over, it is pretty simple.

It also is about what gives dallas the best chance for a SB run in 2017.
Some will say Dak, some will say Tony.
I think the phil game showed Tony can move the offense better than Dak at this point, Dak is still learning.
The only question is tony mr glass or not ?? play him in pre season and find out.

yeah and this will continue to be the "talk" the team and the rest of us hear all during the season. Everyone will say Dak will be looking over his shoulder everytime he throws a bad pass etc.... I mean look at this last year geez. It is best for this team to move forward and the best way is, no fault of Tony, to cut or trade Romo. We don't need anymore distraction.

I know you are implying that Romo will win his job back or they should just give it to him, but you and I know that is not going to happen. Even Romo said it. Can you imagine all the drama this team will face, not only by its fans but also in the media if that were to happen. Dak is the guy and I belive he is only going to get better with time.
 

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If you want top compensation for Romo you have to be WILLING to eat his salary and keep him one more year. Otherwise teams will wait until you cut him.

Ideally I would like to get his cap space back, but I would also like to have two stud QBs on this team in case one goes down. If I were Jerry I would play chicken with teams who want Romo and if they don't play it my way, I keep Romo on the Roster and spread out his prorated bonuses over one more year.

You don't create another hole by letting Romo walk for zero compensation. I would be trying like hell to catch lightening in a bottle again with another QB like Dak. Mahomes might be a pretty good option. His upside is supposed to be as high or higher than any QB in this draft but will need development so he will probably not go before the 3rd or 4th round.
 

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If we wanted a chance at getting anything at all for Romo, then you have to do it this year.
 

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well you make a good point Rob, but isnt dak on a 4 year contract?
And like I said any money saved, has to be well spent, and cowboys have been kinda lame in FA signings.
Jerry wants a wardaddy lol, but you never know how that will work out or who it is etc.
I doubt they keep romo, the decision is the jones boys to make.

if phil can get a # 1 for bradford, dallas should get that for Tony, but they may have for opportunity to wait to do that.

I doubt it.

Bradford is a decent QB with a manageable contract that might have 6 or more years Ieft in the league that was traded to a desperate team during preseason.

Romo is a great QB that is due a lot of money but hasn't played much in two seasons and 3 of his last 4 appearances ended in an extended injury. He also only has maybe two years left.

Big difference, no way we get close to a first but I hope I'm wrong.
 

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If you want top compensation for Romo you have to be WILLING to eat his salary and keep him one more year. Otherwise teams will wait until you cut him.

Ideally I would like to get his cap space back, but I would also like to have two stud QBs on this team in case one goes down. If I were Jerry I would play chicken with teams who want Romo and if they don't play it my way, I keep Romo on the Roster and spread out his prorated bonuses over one more year.

You don't create another hole by letting Romo walk for zero compensation. I would be trying like hell to catch lightening in a bottle again with another QB like Dak. Mahomes might be a pretty good option. His upside is supposed to be as high or higher than any QB in this draft but will need development so he will probably not go before the 3rd or 4th round.

Easy to say though but if we hold Romo hostage then all he has to do is leak to the press that he is leaning towards retirement and that will blow up any market for him.
 

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Pure Speculation.
Good GMs manage their team based on probabilities.

Historic probability indicates that rookies tend to get better and players at Romo's age tend to decline. It not a guarantee, but it's way more than pure speculation. Yes, we all know about the exceptions of RG3 and others, but if you evaluate all rookies over time, the general tendency is that they get better with experience.
 

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Tony honestly doesn't want to be here. He wants to be a starter and play Football. It's not going to happen here, so let him move on.

This team wasted a decade catering to Romo, it's time for us to use him and get some value in return. Don't care about his feelings
 

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This team wasted a decade catering to Romo, it's time for us to use him and get some value in return. Don't care about his feelings
I get your point as a fan. He's been loyal to the cowboys and the jones family so I have no doubt they will try to accommodate him the best they can.
 

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Easy to say though but if we hold Romo hostage then all he has to do is leak to the press that he is leaning towards retirement and that will blow up any market for him.

Then you keep him on the team a sthe backup and that's that. The team holds all the leverage on this and they need to act like they do. To do otherwise is foolish.
 

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It logically doesn't make sense for one huge reason.

We have two seasons to evaluate Dak before his agent is asking for a contract well over 100 million.

Do you waste one of those two seasons on Romo? And then Dak turns around has a soso year in 2018 and then we have his agent pushing us hard for a huge extension.

From a money standpoint, you have to take Dak's 700K a year as a blessing and build around that before you have to make a huge, team altering investment.

Personally, I think we are a better team more equipped to win a Super Bowl if we are paying Dak/JPP(example) over Dak/Romo for the next two seasons.
agreed
 

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Dak launched us into the new Dak era and there's no turning back. However if
the club doesn't receive a good trade offer for Romo and if fitting all the FA we chose to sign works out,OK.
I dont think Romo wants to be a Dallas Cowboy back up QB but if that's his decision so be it.
 

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yeah and this will continue to be the "talk" the team and the rest of us hear all during the season. Everyone will say Dak will be looking over his shoulder everytime he throws a bad pass etc.... I mean look at this last year geez. It is best for this team to move forward and the best way is, no fault of Tony, to cut or trade Romo. We don't need anymore distraction.

I know you are implying that Romo will win his job back or they should just give it to him, but you and I know that is not going to happen. Even Romo said it. Can you imagine all the drama this team will face, not only by its fans but also in the media if that were to happen. Dak is the guy and I belive he is only going to get better with time.
Of course
 

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The bonus money is spent. It will count towards the cap sometime no matter what happens.

The 14m a year salary only counts if Romo stays. In simplistic terms this will be extra money to count against the cap.

14m = 2 x starters or locking down our OL. Will improve the team more than retaining Romo.
good point, but again it depends on what FO does with that 14 mil as to how much it helps the team.
What fans imagine, and what FO actually does with it could be very different.

I thought Thornton was a good move last year, but turned out he wasnt much help at all.
Hardy was supposed to be the "kraken" lol but he was later called other names.

Keeping Tony for ONE more year seems like just a good insurance for if Dak gets hurt or has the soph slump.
Or they could give him one last shot.

Also phil traded bradford late, in summer or right before season started, when minn qb was hurt, and
if someones qb goes down, then the option is there to trade for a good pick or 2.
 

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As fans we dont have a lot of the info we actually need, like how Tony actually feels about bkup, one last start, or maybe he
wants off the team now, and what his health really is.
Also how do the players feel, do they want dak or tony, would they go with either one.
And also would Tony redo his contract for one last year as starter? or if that is allowed, or if that would reduce hit in 2018.
Also coaches may want Dak over Tony, I got that impression.

So probably best to just wait and see what they do.
 

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Then you keep him on the team a sthe backup and that's that. The team holds all the leverage on this and they need to act like they do. To do otherwise is foolish.

If the team tries to strong-arm Romo into doing something he doesn't want he can just retire and give Jerry the finger. The team's "leverage" is an illusion.
 

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This is the skinny that "Jerry and Son" understand that nobody else seems to get... they don't look at just the price tag of Romo as a backup. They look at the price of Dak and Romo to be the #1 & #2 QBs. As long as they got Dak on the cheap, Romo's price tag is not "too much". Don't worry yourself about packing Romo's bags and still getting stuck with a $19 million cap space hit. He's staying in Dallas and as the FO stated last season... "Quarterback completion is held at training camp". Good luck Dakota Rayne. :D
 

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The key domino here is that each team must be under the cap by the beginning of the new league year. In 2017, this date is March 9. This is the first day teams can begin to sign free agents from other teams.
If Dallas has not cut or traded Tony by this date, it must continue to carry his 2017 cap number of $24,700,000 until it does so. But if Dallas moves on from Romo, it will immediately free up $5.1 million that it can use to sign other players(no Ingram, JPP, or AJ Bouye for that amt IMO). There is no need to make Tony Romo as post-June 1 cut (or trade). The reason often cited is that it frees up more than $5.1 million in 2017, while pushing off some of the dead money until 2018. Here are the major issues with this idea. If Dallas took this option it would have to keep all $24.7 million on its books until after June 1. This ties up money that could be used for free agents during the period when they are available. Cowboys do not need more cap space in 2017 if it can write contracts that push off the cap hit until year two or three or beyond, when the bulk of the Tony Romo money will become available. The cost of keeping Tony is NOT the cap relief Dallas would gain in 2017 from cutting or trading Romo. That number is Tony Romo’s 2017 cap hit of $24,700,000 minus his dead cap of $19,600,000, or $5.1 million.
Cowboy zoners have suggested that the Cowboys should keep Romo because he’s only “costing” them this $5.1M number. The cost is $14 million, which is the base salary Dallas will not have to pay if Tony Romo is elsewhere in 2017. The most significant detail about $14 million is that it is the outlay other teams would have to provide Romo in 2017 if they trade for him and do not modify his contract. That’s pretty reasonable for a starting quarterback these days with six new head coaches and general managers in the league the pressure is on to produce quickly. If Cleveland trades with NE for Jimmy G that leaves Tony as the top prospect QB IMO.

I gleaned most of this from a article on Blogging the Boys back in Jan 2017.
 
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They won 13 games with Dak. The playoff loss was NOT the fault of the QB.

Dak will get even better with time due to experience while Romo will only decline due to age.
You apply a double standard when talking about Dak and Romo. According to you... time effects these two guys in diametrically opposite ways, Romo is not capable of getting better due to experience and Dak isn't aging. You've watched too many superhero movies my friend because time effects all of us the same. Granted, some of us are more resilient than others. 13-3 regular season record, earning 1 seed in the playoffs, pro bowl selectee... Dak isn't the only QB on the roster to achieve these things as the starter.
 

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Tony has to go, if he stays and they let him compete for the job, he wins it, he is the better QB, most everybody would agree.
But that won't happen, it would be a big distraction and many inside the locker room wouldn't like it.

Fair or not, Tony has to go, simple as that.
FWIW, I do believe we will end up regreting it, best case would have been Tony playong 2-3 years and then Dak taking over. Hope I am wrong.
 
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