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Tony wasn't a distraction whatsoever last season. He handled this better than any QB I've ever seen and really explained the nature of competitive athletics and how the situation was working EXACTLY how it should be working.

If we trade him, we save less initially, but in the end the money will saved will be the same amount as if we cut him. By trading him, it allows us to get less savings this season, but hopefully a high round draft pick. If we cut him, by 2019 we still would save the same amount in total, but we would be without that extra pick.






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Having Romo apart of the team next season is just going to create a distraction. The Romo FANS will Romo as the QB of the team, while most Cowboys fans are ready to move on from him and are excited about the future with Dak. We can't have one side wanting one QB and the other side wanting the other. We can't have screams for Romo everytime Dak throws a bad pass or doesn't have a perfect game. Neither QB is going to want to be the backup and Romo isn't going to want to compete this summer for a job he never lost on the field.
 

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Having Romo apart of the team next season is just going to create a distraction. The Romo FANS will Romo as the QB of the team, while most Cowboys fans are ready to move on from him and are excited about the future with Dak. We can't have one side wanting one QB and the other side wanting the other. We can't have screams for Romo everytime Dak throws a bad pass or doesn't have a perfect game. Neither QB is going to want to be the backup and Romo isn't going to want to compete this summer for a job he never lost on the field.
Fans dont matter, it is what the players think that matters, and we dont and cant know what they think or really want.
 

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Tony wasn't a distraction whatsoever last season.


Romo isn't a distraction but having on the team next season would be because there's a spilt amongst this fanbase as to what QB they prefer. There's a lot of Romo FANS that still want him as our QB despite how great Dak played in 2016. The only way we can move on is to part ways with Romo.
 

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Fans dont matter, it is what the players think that matters, and we dont and cant know what they think or really want.

Fans do matter, they pay to fill the stadiums and the lockeroom matters. We can't go into next season with a controversy at QB. The position will never totally be settled until Romo is gone. As long as he's in Dallas his FANS will continue to want him as the QB.
 

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Fans dont matter, it is what the players think that matters, and we dont and cant know what they think or really want.
I think the players handled it fine this year. All pretty much said publicly that the decision was above their pay grade. From what I read, the players treated it like any other veteran player getting beat out by a younger player. No more. No less.

Fans and media have been the ones spazzing out over it.
 

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This is the skinny that "Jerry and Son" understand that nobody else seems to get... they don't look at just the price tag of Romo as a backup. They look at the price of Dak and Romo to be the #1 & #2 QBs. As long as they got Dak on the cheap, Romo's price tag is not "too much". Don't worry yourself about packing Romo's bags and still getting stuck with a $19 million cap space hit. He's staying in Dallas and as the FO stated last season... "Quarterback completion is held at training camp". Good luck Dakota Rayne. :D
going into 2016 this was the scenario, Dak is bkup and tony is starter, so they were prepared for tonys cap hit.
Had Dak not been forced to take over no one would be complaining about the romo $.
Tony getting hurt, and dak playing good , shook things up, and now Tony looks like a burden and opportunity for more cap space.

I will say this, if you watch the football life show on bill Walsh, it gets into what he did with montana and young during one year.
He went with young, then Montana, then both, and the players did not like the both idea, or maybe they just wanted montana.

So Bill was forced to pick one and he picked the older Montana and it led them to another SB win, the one that was a blowout.
Another guy commented that by doing the both thing and putting pressure on Montana to be his best, when he named him the starter,
he got the best joe Montana, better than before.
and at same time he or SF still had steve young, who later won a SB for them.

It isnt the same but it is a similar situation, where Montana had been hurt, and then played badly too.
Both had fan support, and maybe with coaches and owner too.

So aside from getting hurt again, I think if they went with Romo right now, they might get a better Romo than they have ever seen before,
just like with Montana, because dak would be there ready if tony didnt play great.
If they trade or cut him, then another team will get the better romo.
 

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I think the players handled it fine this year. All pretty much said publicly that the decision was above their pay grade. From what I read, the players treated it like any other veteran player getting beat out by a younger player. No more. No less.

Fans and media have been the ones spazzing out over it.
Well I am sure they have opinions they cant state publicly, but we dont know what they are.
They are people like us lol so I think most will prefer either dak or tony. Some may see it as either one is ok.
 

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Fans do matter, they pay to fill the stadiums and the lockeroom matters. We can't go into next season with a controversy at QB. The position will never totally be settled until Romo is gone. As long as he's in Dallas his FANS will continue to want him as the QB.
The stadium will be full with either QB, jersey sales will stay the same, except for the 2 qb's.
Many fans wanted romo to take over last year, or start in playoffs, but it had no effect on stadium or the players.
The lockeroom matters........that is what I said, the players and what they think on who should be the starter does matter.
 

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The key domino here is that each team must be under the cap by the beginning of the new league year. In 2017, this date is March 9. This is the first day teams can begin to sign free agents from other teams.
If Dallas has not cut or traded Tony by this date, it must continue to carry his 2017 cap number of $24,700,000 until it does so. But if Dallas moves on from Romo, it will immediately free up $5.1 million that it can use to sign other players(no Ingram, JPP, or AJ Bouye for that amt IMO). There is no need to make Tony Romo as post-June 1 cut (or trade). The reason often cited is that it frees up more than $5.1 million in 2017, while pushing off some of the dead money until 2018. Here are the major issues with this idea. If Dallas took this option it would have to keep all $24.7 million on its books until after June 1. This ties up money that could be used for free agents during the period when they are available. Cowboys do not need more cap space in 2017 if it can write contracts that push off the cap hit until year two or three or beyond, when the bulk of the Tony Romo money will become available. The cost of keeping Tony is NOT the cap relief Dallas would gain in 2017 from cutting or trading Romo. That number is Tony Romo’s 2017 cap hit of $24,700,000 minus his dead cap of $19,600,000, or $5.1 million.
Cowboy zoners have suggested that the Cowboys should keep Romo because he’s only “costing” them this $5.1M number. The cost is $14 million, which is the base salary Dallas will not have to pay if Tony Romo is elsewhere in 2017. The most significant detail about $14 million is that it is the outlay other teams would have to provide Romo in 2017 if they trade for him and do not modify his contract. That’s pretty reasonable for a starting quarterback these days with six new head coaches and general managers in the league the pressure is on to produce quickly. If Cleveland trades with NE for Jimmy G that leaves Tony as the top prospect QB IMO.

I gleaned most of this from a article on Blogging the Boys back in Jan 2017.
that is a good point , that by the time they unload tony, the best FA pickups will be gone. and it doesnt provide much inititally, unless
it is 5 mil + the 14 mil salary, which would make 19 mil ??
 

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Does anyone really think that if Romo was to start this year and takes the team to the super bowl the fans would be outraged because Dak wasn't the starter? Or the other way around? Every player on the team wants a ring and every fan wants a sixth trophy no matter who the QB is.
 

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The stadium will be full with either QB, jersey sales will stay the same, except for the 2 qb's.
Many fans wanted romo to take over last year, or start in playoffs, but it had no effect on stadium or the players.
The lockeroom matters........that is what I said, the players and what they think on who should be the starter does matter.

Naturally the stadium will be full but what I'm saying is fans do have an affect on what teams do. If fans are booing due to poor play and an unstable QB situation changes will be made. If ticket sales are down changes will be made. Bringing Romo back could have an affect on the fans and players because it would create a distraction. The team had Romo address the media during the season to settle the QB situation and put an end to the distraction it was causing.
 

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that is a good point , that by the time they unload tony, the best FA pickups will be gone. and it doesnt provide much inititally, unless
it is 5 mil + the 14 mil salary, which would make 19 mil ??


How about this summary to make things more clear.
  • If Romo is on the team beyond this year he costs you $24.7 million in 2017 and $25.2 million in 2018.
  • If Romo is a post-June 1 2017 cut,, that drops to $10.7 million of dead money in 2017 and $8.9 million of dead money in 2018.
  • If Romo is a "standard'' cut (or retirement) as a pre-June 1 move, all of the bonus rolls up into 2017, so his cap number goes from $24.7 million in 2017 to $19.6 million, with no dead money in 2018.
  • So it's $20 mil of money, one way or another, committed to the cap for two years or less.
 

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The problem is you still habe to sign a backup QB if you do cut him. If thats 3 million you're saving only 2 million.
Moore was going to be Tony's backup last year, so I would guess they still feel he can fit that role....right or wrong.
So no, they dont have to add someone
 

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Simple. You don't need this hanging around all off season. If you have no intention of having him compete for the job, move on. The money is sunk cost, this is more about how to move forward.

My God this seems so simple, yet so many haven't grasped this yet.
 

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Romo isn't a distraction but having on the team next season would be because there's a spilt amongst this fanbase as to what QB they prefer. There's a lot of Romo FANS that still want him as our QB despite how great Dak played in 2016. The only way we can move on is to part ways with Romo.

There was a lot of Romo fans that wanted him to play this year. And he wasn't a distraction whatsoever.

I don't want him here because we can save cap room, get a good pick and help build the defense and I think Dak is the superior QB. But, he really wasn't a distraction at all. And I don't think he would be next year either.




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There was a lot of Romo fans that wanted him to play this year. And he wasn't a distraction whatsoever.

I don't want him here because we can save cap room, get a good pick and help build the defense and I think Dak is the superior QB. But, he really wasn't a distraction at all. And I don't think he would be next year either.




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I never said Romo was a distraction, the controversy is the distraction which is one reason we have to move on and either trade or release him. He's not going to be happy as the backup and there's no doubt in my mind that the Cowboys are going forward with Dak as the starter. We can't have a debate about who should be the QB in 2017. If Dak has a bad game, we can't have Romo FANS yelling for Romo or have everyone speculating about the QB situation during the season.
 

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I never said Romo was a distraction, the controversy is the distraction which is one reason we have to move on and either trade or release him. He's not going to be happy as the backup and there's no doubt in my mind that the Cowboys are going forward with Dak as the starter. We can't have a debate about who should be the QB in 2017. If Dak has a bad game, we can't have Romo FANS yelling for Romo or have everyone speculating about the QB situation during the season.

I never said that you said he was a distraction. I just don't believe he will be a distraction because he was not a distraction this year. I think Dak proved himself even more by the end of the year and only a fanboy that prefers the player over the team would really want Romo to start. And I think Romo would quell any of that nonsense just like he did this season.



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I never said that you said he was a distraction. I just don't believe he will be a distraction because he was not a distraction this year. I think Dak proved himself even more by the end of the year and only a fanboy that prefers the player over the team would really want Romo to start. And I think Romo would quell any of that nonsense just like he did this season.



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You must think someone is saying he will be a distraction because you keep bringing it up. Romo won't be a distraction the QB controversy would be the distraction and there would be a controversy because Romo FANS still want him as the QB. Because he never lost the job on the field many of his FANS believe he should be given a chance to compete for the job this summer. Having an aging QB compete with a young QB who just came off a rookie of the year/Pro Bowl season doesn't make a lot of sense.

Romo doesn't want to waste what little time his career has left being a backup so it's best for all involved to allow him to move on to a team he can start for. We can't afford to enter the season with Romo FANS still clamoring for him whenever Dak doesn't play a perfect game. Garrett doesn't want to be answering questions about Romo all season and neither do the players, that can create a distraction.
 
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