If Yards After Catch is 0, can we get a route that has Witten past the chains

DogFace

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Yes. I've been saying this about many routes. It's puzzling and obviously stupid.
 

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The reverence JG has for Witten makes me feel this will be problem for at least a couple more years.

The problem is having him out there running those routes on 3rd and 8 or greater. Sure he can get you 15 on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 6 but at this point in his career, he won't break any tackles so why have him running those routes on 3rd and very long when the QB won't have the time for him to run to the proper depth before having to let the ball go and the defense is expecting routes that depth only?

At this point in his career he should be a blocking TE that runs short to intermediate routes only. The failure to get an explosive TE down the field is one of the major fails of this offense.
 

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Its like watching reruns of the Chan Gailey era . . . . . . . .

Whatever yardage you need to get a 1st down, go just a yard or two short :huh:
 

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The failure to get an explosive TE down the field is one of the major fails of this offense.

Our TE is pretty far down the list of reasons for problems with this offense.

But dont worry, we are about due to draft one in the 2nd round.
 

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Witten needs to be aware of where the marker is. It's not too difficult. His yac is non-existent at this point.
 

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Maybe we need to draft another tight end in the 2nd round.
 

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I love Jason Witten, don't get me wrong, but when he catches the ball it is as if time slows down. I don't know how he gets open just enough to catch the ball and then immediately be tackled, but somehow he does it 90% of the time.
 

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Since he is not a TE that breaks tackles (except for Philly game when helmet came off)...can JG group design some plays with routes that find the feet past the chains?

Linehan said to tell you to just sit back & watch him work.
 

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Maybe we need to draft another tight end in the 2nd round.

Yeah baby! I think we should get someone who can catch the ball, but can't run block or pass protect enough to involve them in the game. We love those guys!
 

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Yeah baby! I think we should get someone who can catch the ball, but can't run block or pass protect enough to involve them in the game. We love those guys!

It's either one, the other, or neither. Bennett could block but couldn't catch, Escobar can catch but can't block, and Fasano couldn't do anything.
 

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You people are funny.
There is a thread throwing Dez under the bus and now we have one ripping Witten a new butthole.

Has anyone ever stopped to think the reason he is running routes that are a few yards short of the first down marker could be because the defense is camped at the first down marker and receivers shouldn't run into coverage. Witten does what receives are supposed to do.....find the hole in the zone. Would you rather he runs past the marker into coverage and Cassell throws a weak pass into coverage? You must love pick 6's.

Now the entire offense is awful I agree. But this question about why a player runs routes short of the first down marker is less than football 101. The defense isn't going to give up a hole in the coverage just past the first down marker...why would they.
 

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Our TE is pretty far down the list of reasons for problems with this offense.

But dont worry, we are about due to draft one in the 2nd round.

Uh oh -- I see the second coming of Eric Bjornson and David The Flower.
 

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You people are funny.
There is a thread throwing Dez under the bus and now we have one ripping Witten a new butthole.
Nobody's "ripping Witten a new butthole", as you so eloquently stated. We're ripping the play calling of obvious routes designed to be 5 (or more) yards behind the chains, going to a player that's not exactly the best at getting YAC.
 

CyberB0b

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These are on Witten. He likely is running an option route and has to allow room to come back to the ball.
 

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You people are funny.
There is a thread throwing Dez under the bus and now we have one ripping Witten a new butthole.

Has anyone ever stopped to think the reason he is running routes that are a few yards short of the first down marker could be because the defense is camped at the first down marker and receivers shouldn't run into coverage. Witten does what receives are supposed to do.....find the hole in the zone. Would you rather he runs past the marker into coverage and Cassell throws a weak pass into coverage? You must love pick 6's.

Now the entire offense is awful I agree. But this question about why a player runs routes short of the first down marker is less than football 101. The defense isn't going to give up a hole in the coverage just past the first down marker...why would they.

More than Football 101......Failing to break tackles but continuously having 0 to little YAC, and continually being thrown to on chain moving downs. Seems coaching staff is working with less than football 101.....not this post.
 
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