If you want to see actual decline of an NFL QB...

[Wheeltax]

I think Belichick the head coach needs to fire Belichick the GM.

How do you let Julian Edelman be your #1 receiver for two years?

 

[Doomsday]

Poor offensive line play, coupled with a lack of WRs will do that to the best of them.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Anyone think Brees is in decline?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

As good as he is Brady has always folded under a persistent pass rush.

Age creeping up + weak O-line = Long year for Mr Brady.

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[Rogah]

his team isnt much different than the last couple of years...so 2 years ago he was fine with trash but now he isnt? Its the brady decline.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. This offense is radically different than what it was 2 years ago. In fact, between the 2012 season and the 2013 season, their offense lost their top 5 receivers in terms of receptions, yardage and touchdowns (including losing Gronk to injury). When can you ever think of a team that lost all 5 of their top receivers in one single offseason?

Belichick has screwed Brady over royally with his atrocious GMing. There isn't a QB alive that could make chicken soup out of that chicken **** offense. Edelman is good but not a deep threat. Gronk is 50%. The offensive line sucks royally. Who is left? Lafell? Dobson? Don't make me laugh. If I was Brady I would get out of there ASAP.

 

[Rogah]

If you forget....we're told brady is so good he makes the WR's good and doesnt need good WR's....but his WR corps today still isnt completely horrible. They are serviceable guys.

Actually, they are worse than horrible, especially once you get past Edelman.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

I posted 5 YEARS of brady decline. It is documented and consistent. You can point to 1 year ago all you want. It has been happening for years and years now.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Actually, they are worse than horrible, especially once you get past Edelman.

i wouldnt call amendola bad at all...injury prone, sure, but he can and has played

 

[casmith07]

Either he is in decline or he is surrounded by trash, i'm gonna go with the latter.

Do you watch Patriot games or ESPN? Cause this is exactly how people think Romo sucks, cause he had what Brady has now.

That offensive line in New England is horrid. And their receivers are Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola LOL

 

[Lonestar94]

That offensive line in New England is horrid. And their receivers are Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola LOL

Thats a far cry from Randy Moss streaking down the sidelines and Wes Welker wreaking havoc across the middle.

 

[joseephuss]

i wouldnt call amendola bad at all...injury prone, sure, but he can and has played

He wasn't bad, but he isn't someone you count on to be your top 1 or 2 options. He was never great. He was reliable to get a few catches, but he isn't an explosive, game changing type player. His 9.4 ypc and 9 TDs for his career clearly show that. It was already a downgrade to go from Welker to Amendola to be the slot guy and third option behind their two dynamic tight ends. Because of Hernandez's legal issues and Gronk's injuries the Pats had to rely on getting even more from Amendola than they had planned. He hasn't delivered. He wasn't bad before, but right now through four games this year he is bad. He has 3 catches on the season. That is very bad especially considering how much money the Pats are paying him.

 

[Rogah]

i wouldnt call amendola bad at all...injury prone, sure, but he can and has played

LOL! Give me a break. In his best year, he still couldn't break 700 yards.

If you have to use Danny Amendola as evidence that Brady has good receivers, then you're actually hurting your own point more than helping it.

 

[Jenky]

I posted 5 YEARS of brady decline. It is documented and consistent. You can point to 1 year ago all you want. It has been happening for years and years now.

i wouldnt call amendola bad at all...injury prone, sure, but he can and has played

Have you seen Brady's stats the last 5 years, not including this one?

28 td / 13 int
36 td / 4 int
39 td / 12 int
34 td / 8 int
25 td / 11 int

If that's a "decline," I'll take it every time.

The receivers he has has now are gimmick receivers. They are guys who reap the benefit of being in this scheme, always running crossing routes and picks. They aren't special at all. They'd probably be jags on any other team.

The other guys need to step up. Dobson and Thompkins are too inconsistent. Maybe he has something with LaFell.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

How many years have the Pats been good? I think at least a decade. They're 2-2 this year I think & in a poor division. I guess their next game performance will help to see if MNF was a fluke or they really are free falling.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Have you seen Brady's stats the last 5 years, not including this one?

28 td / 13 int
36 td / 4 int
39 td / 12 int
34 td / 8 int
25 td / 11 int

If that's a "decline," I'll take it every time.

The receivers he has has now are gimmick receivers. They are guys who reap the benefit of being in this scheme, always running crossing routes and picks. They aren't special at all. They'd probably be jags on any other team.

The other guys need to step up. Dobson and Thompkins are too inconsistent. Maybe he has something with LaFell.

Exactly.

Couldn't have said it better.

The talent around him has done nothing but leave, and fall apart, and the Patriots haven't done much to help build it back.

Which is funny considering all I ever seem to hear is how they always make the right choices and they're this and that. Well it's the same people, making the same choices, and that team for whatever reason isn't finding the pieces to put around Tom anymore.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

ive always heard brady and peyton are so good it doesnt matter the WR's anyhow

 

[Jenky]

ive always heard brady and peyton are so good it doesnt matter the WR's anyhow

And this is the reason I rank Brady ahead of Peyton.

Brady at one point had Moss and Welker. Fine. Now just Gronk who's mostly hurt cause the Patriots are being stupid with him.

Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker, Julius Thomas.

No doubt in my mind, Peyton had more weapons on offense.

 

[Jenky]

Exactly.

Couldn't have said it better.

The talent around him has done nothing but leave, and fall apart, and the Patriots haven't done much to help build it back.

Which is funny considering all I ever seem to hear is how they always make the right choices and they're this and that. Well it's the same people, making the same choices, and that team for whatever reason isn't finding the pieces to put around Tom anymore.

Yes, in the previous years everyone praised the Patriots for all the decisions their front office was making. Now it's the complete opposite and Tommy is paying for it.

They've acquired lower tier talent through the draft and free agency and now they're suffering the consequences.

 

[burmafrd]

Have you seen Brady's stats the last 5 years, not including this one?

28 td / 13 int
36 td / 4 int
39 td / 12 int
34 td / 8 int
25 td / 11 int

If that's a "decline," I'll take it every time.

The receivers he has has now are gimmick receivers. They are guys who reap the benefit of being in this scheme, always running crossing routes and picks. They aren't special at all. They'd probably be jags on any other team.

The other guys need to step up. Dobson and Thompkins are too inconsistent. Maybe he has something with LaFell.

when your passer rating keeps declining steadily for 5 years even a brady homer like you must admit he is not what he was. He had not so good WRs before and did better then he is doing now. Of course a poor O line is also a major factor.
Geee now he knows what Romo had to deal with most of his career.

Peyton is frankly a shadow physically now. Brady is declining physically as well if not as obviously. He his having more horrible games more often. Another sure sign.

Now BB is also very responsible since his ego gets in the way of making good personel decisions.

 

[Jenky]

when your passer rating keeps declining steadily for 5 years even a brady homer like you must admit he is not what he was. He had not so good WRs before and did better then he is doing now. Of course a poor O line is also a major factor.
Geee now he knows what Romo had to deal with most of his career.

Peyton is frankly a shadow physically now. Brady is declining physically as well if not as obviously. He his having more horrible games more often. Another sure sign.

Now BB is also very responsible since his ego gets in the way of making good personel decisions.

He's not what he once was and his FO/team sure as hell isn't helping him.