I'm afraid J. Ireland was mistakenly overwhelmed with Stanback

[igtmfo]

Loving me boys now I don't want to be critical ... but I'm afraid we whiffed with Isaiah Stanback.

Stanback reminds me of Antonio Bryant. Both are the most impressive guys you've ever seen on the field, the definition of "dynamic" ... if you watch them casually on your couch, both seem to be awesome athletes and just be quick in all their movements and kick ***, but ..

But A. Bryant's dynamics, just looking like the best athlete on the field when he would run a pattern ... it was quickness that didn't really translate into anything. Not good functional speed. He was a thick guy, his movements weren't too "linear" down the field ... there was lots of wasted motion. A. Bryant would never be "open" but have DBs blanketing him. (Maybe he had no moves or savvy ...) On the other hand, think the Indy Colts tall, upfield-linear-speed guys (what am I saying? ) and you see guys with no wasted movement just slipping upfield like razors. Scheme and coaching?

I'm afraid that Jeff Ireland fell in love with Stanback, and Ireland saw him as a possible special athlete ... but if he was a fantastic pure speed/athlete/doing anything on special teams, or had any special talent even as a gunner ... or anything worthy of a draft choice, he would be out there nowadays, don't you think .... Yeah I know Stanback ran a 4.3 or 4.4 but ...

Ireland wasn't here when we took Crayton I think ... he was a unlikely body type for a receiver, like Stanback, but Crayton must have been a pure lucky find in the "local" predraft prospects day and contradicts all I'm saying .. did anybody scout SW Okla. or wherever Crayton was from?

Now Jacoby Jones at Houston, 3rd round, may amount to something ...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No offense or anything, but... I don't think I agree with a single thing you said. :

 

[03EBZ06]

I really don't understand all these threads about Stanback. He is a rookie, the season is 4 games young, give him time to develop and see how he performs on the field before stating he is a hit or a miss.

 

[BigDFan5]

you gathered all of this from all the gamefilm you seen him on?

Or the fact that a guy we drafted as a project is being treated as a project?

 

[Boyzmamacita]

It's too early to say whether or not we "whiffed" on Stanback or anybody else in this year's draft.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Antonio Bryant won the Belitnikoff award but was a head case.

Isaih Stanback is a converted QB coming off a serious injury who has a terrific speed size combination, good hands, and an excellent attitude/work ethic but very little experience.

They are nothing alike.

Stanback ahs never returned punts before today and has one year of WR experience from his freshman year but after us having him for 6 months you can tell that he will not progress adn hes a bust?

Give me a break.

 

[Rack]

Yet another instant evaluator.

 

[FCBarca]

No offense or anything, but... I don't think I agree with a single thing you said. :

Ditto.

 

[smarta5150]

Yet another instant evaluator.

Nice. 4 games in and a rookie taking flak.

I love these posters.

 

[BlackJackMurphy]

this thread is even beneath my BS standards

 

[03EBZ06]

this thread is even beneath my BS standards

Yikes, that is pretty darn low. :

 

[stealth]

only time I am gonna say this

our team was good enough and was deep enough that at draft time we could afford to draft a kid that would be a project guy, that may turn out amazing or may bite us in the ***. It may take a couple years before stanback even matters, and frankly, I am so happy about that I don't have words to convey it. He was drafted for the future not right now.

the fact is that is a good friggin thing

 

[BigDFan5]

this thread is even beneath my BS standards

 

[Bungarian]

Do you do this to get attention?

 

[dbair1967]

No offense or anything, but... I don't think I agree with a single thing you said. :

ditto

what a ridiculous post

did that guy expect a 4th rd pick coming in and making a position change (and coming off a major injury) to win a starting job and catch 60 ball for a 1000 yds this yr?

David

 

[sago1]

Well if Ireland screwed up then so did several other teams. We used our top 4th round pick on Stanbach because we had learned that several other teams coming right after us were going to draft him with their pick.

Stanbach's a project which you should understand means we probably won't see much from him until late this year if at all. We saw enough in one preseason game where he caught 2 passes including a good catch for a TD to know this kid has a good future. Considering how well our WRs think of their WR coach, I have no doubt Stanbach will learn all the fundamentals he needs to know so he can become a quality WR in the NFL -- but it will take some time.

Good grief. You'd have probalby cut Romo after his rookie season cause he didn't show anything his first year.

 

[Rack]

ditto

what a ridiculous post

did that guy expect a 4th rd pick coming in and making a position change (and coming off a major injury) to win a starting job and catch 60 ball for a 1000 yds this yr?

David

No. Apparently he expected him to do it on HALF a season.

 

[zrinkill]

Loving me boys now I don't want to be critical ... but I'm afraid we whiffed with Isaiah Stanback.

Stanback reminds me of Antonio Bryant. Both are the most impressive guys you've ever seen on the field, the definition of "dynamic" ... if you watch them casually on your couch, both seem to be awesome athletes and just be quick in all their movements and kick ***, but ..

But A. Bryant's dynamics, just looking like the best athlete on the field when he would run a pattern ... it was quickness that didn't really translate into anything. Not good functional speed. He was a thick guy, his movements weren't too "linear" down the field ... there was lots of wasted motion. A. Bryant would never be "open" but have DBs blanketing him. (Maybe he had no moves or savvy ...) On the other hand, think the Indy Colts tall, upfield-linear-speed guys (what am I saying? ) and you see guys with no wasted movement just slipping upfield like razors. Scheme and coaching?

I'm afraid that Jeff Ireland fell in love with Stanback, and Ireland saw him as a possible special athlete ... but if he was a fantastic pure speed/athlete/doing anything on special teams, or had any special talent even as a gunner ... or anything worthy of a draft choice, he would be out there nowadays, don't you think .... Yeah I know Stanback ran a 4.3 or 4.4 but ...

Ireland wasn't here when we took Crayton I think ... he was a unlikely body type for a receiver, like Stanback, but Crayton must have been a pure lucky find in the "local" predraft prospects day and contradicts all I'm saying .. did anybody scout SW Okla. or wherever Crayton was from?

Now Jacoby Jones at Houston, 3rd round, may amount to something ...

Crayton was a converted QB and was cut and placed on the practice squad and only played in 8 games his first year .....

Was he a bust?

 

[jobberone]

I understand you can be disappointed by his lack of playing time but give the guy another year or three to learn a new position` He also has to break into a rotation of some pretty good players ahead of him`

 

[igtmfo]

If you have no position, you have to something on special teams, especially as a rookie? Carp even has to do something nowadays ...

Stanbacks' Lisfranc injury (?) is healed mostly, from what I understand.

I wonder if Stanback has stood out at V Ranch practices at receiver ... maybe we're sandbagging him .... (I really hope so ....

But I'm afraid he was drafted as a kind of 4th round version of D. Hester, to correct BP's mistake of Skyler Green ...

No problem .... Stanback's a good, smart and funny guy in interviews so I don't want to diminish him too much ...

Look he's healthy now and an awesome athlete, the reason we picked him. If so, we have to get him on the field, right? He's a big fairly stout guy and could at least get the field ahead of special teamers: Justin Rogers, Evan Oglesby etc. etc. ***??? ...

Sam Hurd is a special teams standout, both sides. If Stanback could do anything close, or contribute anything, wouldn't he be active?

From now on, I'm afraid all draft picks should be blamed on Larry Lacewell. Jerry is a fool to even let this guy into the building (I hear LL is a fine guy and storyteller, and will cover your drinking tab ... but he IS the reason we've been in the freaking ditch for the last 10 years ...)