Im going to enjoy all the crow eating this year

[CowboyRoy]

In the last 2 season he has missed a total of 2 games for that position that is not bad. Early on he did have injury issues since then Murray has been durable. Injury prone RB do not carry the load he did last season. As for the big hole? lol he was stuck behind a line that had no true center in 2011 and 2012 and overall a pretty poor OL yet avg 5.5 and 4.1 per carry in each of the season. He has been productive when given the chance. I grant you he is not a homerun hitting RB but he is consistent. I don't care about the RB who will have 1 great run in the game and outside of that does not produce. I want a RB who can move the chains, who can take on blitzer and a guy you can lean on when you are late in the game needing to put it away.

I will definitely agree that if I had to pick a home run guy or a dirty yards guy, I would take the dirty yards guy. I very much look forward to this season and the results of both Murray in Philly and the RG here in Dallas. We are going to find out one way or the other.

 

[Doomsday101]

I will definitely agree that if I had to pick a home run guy or a dirty yards guy, I would take the dirty yards guy. I very much look forward to this season and the results of both Murray in Philly and the RG here in Dallas. We are going to find out one way or the other.

I'm not concerned with what Murray does in Philly. I like the guy, he has shown himself to be a quality guy and someone his teammate can count on. He goes about his business in a professional manner. As for our current guys they have to go out and prove it. I hope out current group does just that and I hope 1 of them shows himself as a lead RB who can carry a decent amount of the load

 

[CowboyRoy]

Well there are a lot of people around the NFL who would not agree with you on the impact Murray had which is why he won OPY. OL is a big help but that is and has been the case for any top RB. Emmitt Smith was great he also played behind one of the all time great OL in NFL history yet other RB did not fair as well when Emmitt missed. Before you start up about Murray is not Emmitt, I agree but the point remains the same even the best RB to play the game need OL help.

As for Dallas letting him walk given the price tag that Philly was offering I fully understood Dallas not overpaying and how it may effect this season we will soon find out.

Which is exactly my point in this thread. That there are a lot of experts that agree with you and think Murray was the reason for the big run game success. Lets just say that I hope you and them are eating some crow and I think you will. Murray was very good, but he was not good enough to over pay. And for me, it was his injury history that put the nail in the coffin as far as resigning him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not concerned with what Murray does in Philly. I like the guy, he has shown himself to be a quality guy and someone his teammate can count on. He goes about his business in a professional manner. As for our current guys they have to go out and prove it. I hope out current group does just that and I hope 1 of them shows himself as a lead RB who can carry a decent amount of the load

Put it this way................If they cant average over 4 yards per carry and we dont rush for at least 130 yards per game then our RB's are terrible. Randle I think in particular will have the most consistent success. I like his vision and I like his burst through the hole. Mcfadden wont make anyone miss, but if he gets a seam, he will be gone. No one is catching him from behind. I also believe that Linehan will adjust the offense to more swing passes and screens to the RB's to take advantage of the speed of Mcfadden and Dunbar on the outside. Probably more draws also.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not concerned with what Murray does in Philly. I like the guy, he has shown himself to be a quality guy and someone his teammate can count on. He goes about his business in a professional manner. As for our current guys they have to go out and prove it. I hope out current group does just that and I hope 1 of them shows himself as a lead RB who can carry a decent amount of the load

What Murray does in Philly I am very interested to see. Will he get hurt? Will he get only 300 carries instead of 400? Will he be as effective there behind that line? (they do have a quality line)

 

[Doomsday101]

What Murray does in Philly I am very interested to see. Will he get hurt? Will he get only 300 carries instead of 400? Will he be as effective there behind that line? (they do have a quality line)

I would expect he will get fewer carries, I think had he stayed in Dallas he would get fewer carries. I don't think taking on that type of workload for any RB is something you can maintain over the course of a RB career, heck last season only 2 RB had more than 300 carries McCoy and Murray and that was only the 2nd time for McCoy to have 300 carries and with the addition of Ryan Mathews Philly should be able to give Murray fewer snaps. As for his effectiveness, I think he will do quite well in helping Philly was some weakness they have had #1 is their inability down by the goal line to punch the ball in via the running game. Philly has often had to settle for the 3 points instead of being able to convert in goal line situations.

Lastly injuries that can happen at anytime to any player, no way to predict that.

 

[AtlCB]

What Murray does in Philly I am very interested to see. Will he get hurt? Will he get only 300 carries instead of 400? Will he be as effective there behind that line? (they do have a quality line)

It will be interesting to see how good the line is with two new starters at guard. They are one injury on the offensive away from disaster.

 

[DeaconMoss]

It really irks me how many so called experts keep talking about how our running game is going to sputter with the "all world" Murray toting the rock in Philly. Im going to very much enjoy watching Randle storm through the monster holes this line provided for Murray last year. We will see bigger plays out of Randle. And certainly McFadden will have some big plays with his speed.

We may miss the physical element of Murray, but I truly believe our Oline will now take on that role and provide everything we need for a nasty running game.

Lets see how many of these cats fess up a quarter of the way through the season as our committee running back tandem is tearing it up every week.

I have a feeling we add another RB as camp cuts take place.

 

[DeaconMoss]

But Murray got them "dirty yards"...

The only thing Im worried about is having to shuffle rb's in for the situation. Make the Offense play more predictable. Who is going to be the tough 3rd and 1 yard guy on our team? Williams?

 

[gmoney112]

This is why I have a real hard time liking Garrett as a HC. He just can't identify the greatness that is Joseph Randle and only gave him 51 carries last year even though the guy averaged 7 YPC. You'd think Garrett would have seen the same thing you saw.

And this is the problem with the internet. Most people would rather emphasize word choice, or one sentence, rather than attempt to understand the message.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would expect he will get fewer carries, I think had he stayed in Dallas he would get fewer carries. I don't think taking on that type of workload for any RB is something you can maintain over the course of a RB career, heck last season only 2 RB had more than 300 carries McCoy and Murray and that was only the 2nd time for McCoy to have 300 carries and with the addition of Ryan Mathews Philly should be able to give Murray fewer snaps. As for his effectiveness, I think he will do quite well in helping Philly was some weakness they have had #1 is their inability down by the goal line to punch the ball in via the running game. Philly has often had to settle for the 3 points instead of being able to convert in goal line situations.

Lastly injuries that can happen at anytime to any player, no way to predict that.

I would expect he will get fewer carries, I think had he stayed in Dallas he would get fewer carries. I don't think taking on that type of workload for any RB is something you can maintain over the course of a RB career, heck last season only 2 RB had more than 300 carries McCoy and Murray and that was only the 2nd time for McCoy to have 300 carries and with the addition of Ryan Mathews Philly should be able to give Murray fewer snaps. As for his effectiveness, I think he will do quite well in helping Philly was some weakness they have had #1 is their inability down by the goal line to punch the ball in via the running game. Philly has often had to settle for the 3 points instead of being able to convert in goal line situations.

Lastly injuries that can happen at anytime to any player, no way to predict that.

I take McCoy over Murray. In my mind they downgraded there. Although I would take Murray AND Mathews over McCoy. Although that is two injury prone RB's as compared to McCoy who has shown he can carry the rock with little injury history.

 

[Frozen700]

I see a ton of people who say dallas will go 8 and 8 at best cause we lost murray. Not going to happen.

Murray is average at best. The o-line made this ******* bum.

All you can count on, is his bum *** fumbling the ball.

 

[Doomsday101]

I take McCoy over Murray. In my mind they downgraded there. Although I would take Murray AND Mathews over McCoy. Although that is two injury prone RB's as compared to McCoy who has shown he can carry the rock with little injury history.

2 different type of backs. McCoy as great as he is when it comes to short yardage he has not been that good for Philly. As for injury McCoy has 2 16 games season out of 6 season. Injuries happen but being that Murray was in Dallas the focus was on him not that of other players and RB who have missed games due to injury. I think Murray gets some what of a bad wrap on that

 

[AtlCB]

2 different type of backs. McCoy as great as he is when it comes to short yardage he has not been that good for Philly. As for injury McCoy has 2 16 games season out of 6 season. Injuries happen but being that Murray was in Dallas the focus was on him not that of other players and RB who have missed games due to injury. I think Murray gets some what of a bad wrap on that

According to NFL.com, LeSean has 3 sixteen game seasons, and he missed 6 games in six years. Murray has missed 11 games in four years.

 

[Doomsday101]

According to NFL.com, LeSean has 3 sixteen game seasons, and he missed 6 games in six years. Murray has missed 11 games in four years.

http://www.nfl.com/player/leseanmccoy/79607/profile

I only see 2 16 game season

 

[AtlCB]

http://www.nfl.com/player/leseanmccoy/79607/profile

I only see 2 16 game season

Look at 2009, 2013, and 2014.

 

[Plankton]

I remain amused by all of the people continuing to dog DeMarco Murray's accomplishments of last season as being not that big a deal. And, this is coming from a person who was fine with letting Murray walk.

When you consider that only 17 players in the 96 year history of the NFL have rushed for more yards in a season, that should put into perspective his contributions. Replacing that kind of production is not as simple as plugging a warm body in his place. Murray brought attitude as well as a good dose of physicality to the offense. I don't see those qualities in the other backs on the roster. Can Randle and McFadden break more big runs? Absolutely. Can they grind out the down to down carries necessary to be a top flight back and contributor? That remains to be seen.

I swear, some people make it seem like running for over 1800 yards is routine.

 

[robjay04]

I remain amused by all of the people continuing to dog DeMarco Murray's accomplishments of last season as being not that big a deal. And, this is coming from a person who was fine with letting Murray walk.

When you consider that only 17 players in the 96 year history of the NFL have rushed for more yards in a season, that should put into perspective his contributions. Replacing that kind of production is not as simple as plugging a warm body in his place. Murray brought attitude as well as a good dose of physicality to the offense. I don't see those qualities in the other backs on the roster. Can Randle and McFadden break more big runs? Absolutely. Can they grind out the down to down carries necessary to be a top flight back and contributor? That remains to be seen.

I swear, some people make it seem like running for over 1800 yards is routine.

It is not routine that a team gives a running back that many carries either.

My fiance's two cousins are Eagles fans. Last season around Thanksgiving, I made the statement during a meal that Dallas is running Murray to the ground because they plan on letting him go next year and everyone agreed with me. Dallas ran the guy to the ground---he stayed healthy and he was the "guy" but obviously he benefited from an insane workload. You can give another 10 backs in the league that many carries and they would get 1800 yards behind this line IF they managed to stay healthy.

 

[guag]

Murray is average at best. The o-line made this ******* bum.

All you can count on, is his bum *** fumbling the ball.

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[DFWJC]

I did a poll a couple of months ago and it got merged or erased. never got an explanation why....it's not like a poll is the same as a regular thread.