I'm not one to complain about play calling... BUT...

Doomsday101

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jay cee;2967617 said:
I never intended to assert that Romo's picks were the fault of Garretts play calling.

My claim was that Garrett's play calling was a large reason for the loss. IMO, there is a difference between the two.

So according to you guys, it does not matter what plays the coaches call, it's the players fault if the team loses.

If that's the case, a coach could call all running plays, or all passing plays and the players should be successful because they all made the right reads, blocks, cuts, and yes passes.

We can all make extreme statements to try and make someones viewpoint look silly.

Had Garrett abandon the running game when we fell behind yes I would call him out. If Garrett went ultra conservative after the turnovers I would call him out. I'm sure when talking 1 or 2 plays many around here would have called something else but overall the Dallas offense produced and in the hardest portion of the field to score TD the redzone we went 4-4 with 4 TD's that is not an easy task. Yes I think Garrett did a very good job this past week and the week before vs TB. Dallas lost so the Garrett critics go on the attack
 

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jay cee;2967617 said:
I never intended to assert that Romo's picks were the fault of Garretts play calling.

Yeah, you did.

My claim was that Garrett's play calling was a large reason for the loss. IMO, there is a difference between the two.

What could he have done different? He's running an almost perfectly balanced offense. Romo is the centerpiece of the offense, you cant give up on him.

So according to you guys, it does not matter what plays the coaches call, it's the players fault if the team loses.

Thats not true entirely, but what you are doing is blaming one individual players mistakes on the coordinator. With this being the case, you'd also have to blame the RB fumbling on the coordinator. Or a blocked FG on the coach for electing to kick a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1.


We can all make extreme statements to try and make someones viewpoint look silly.

Like this entire argument you and a couple others are making.
 

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Vinnie2u;2967610 said:
If Buddy Ryan was the coach for Dallas Monday night he would of punched Garrett in the mouth... ;)

Garrett should have punched him (or our DC), because they had the lead and blew the game in the end.

Now if you want to say Buddy would have punched the QB, that'd been fine.
 

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dbair1967;2967692 said:
jay cee;2967617 said:
Yeah, you did.
I'm not going back over every thing I said in this thread, so I'll take your word for it, but I don't remember saying anything like that.

dbair1967;2967692 said:
What could he have done different? He's running an almost perfectly balanced offense. Romo is the centerpiece of the offense, you cant give up on him.
That's where we see things differently. You say Romo is the centerpiece of the offense, and I believe it should be the running game.

IMO, for this team to be the best that they can be, I think the offense should run more than they throw. In a game like Sunday where the runs were really gashing them, instead of 29-29, I think a 38-20 run pass total would have led to blow out for the boys.

I think they have an opportunity to have a truly dominant running game, and I would like to see what they could do if they truly tried to dominate their opponents by running the ball down their throat a large percentage of the game.

dbair1967;2967692 said:
Thats not true entirely, but what you are doing is blaming one individual players mistakes on the coordinator. With this being the case, you'd also have to blame the RB fumbling on the coordinator. Or a blocked FG on the coach for electing to kick a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1.
I disagree, everone knows players have breakdowns. What I am talking about is the overall philosophy of the team. Different coaches have different philosophies that determines how they call the game. I disagree with Garrett's philosophy.

dbair1967;2967692 said:
Like this entire argument you and a couple others are making.

I don't see how suggesting the Cowboys should use their running game more is extreme.
 

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dbair1967;2967695 said:
Garrett should have punched him (or our DC), because they had the lead and blew the game in the end.

Now if you want to say Buddy would have punched the QB, that'd been fine.

dbair, once again I find myself in agreement with you, and once again I say, respecting those who disagree with us, that you are wasting your breath when it comes to finding anything RIGHT about Jason Garrett in the eyes of some on this board. Jason Garrett is the reason for hurricanes, and droughts, and what some believe to be global warming. It wouldn't matter if you had 4 receivers standing wide open 5 yards down the field and an interception was thrown to the nose tackle, it would be that Garrett told him to focus on the center of the field, that's the problem! Why would Garrett CALL A PLAY FOR THE CENTER OF THE FIELD?!
 

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MichaelWinicki;2966894 said:
Sure they both can. No doubt about that.

But to have fans come off inferring this was one of the worst ball games that Garrett has called is complete bull-whoopee.

Garrett is going back to last years form and the year before that which inevitably cost us the big games vs better opponents. "The players aren't executing properly." Yes that is undeniable as well but let's keep calling the same plays that don't work, brilliant!!!

The bottom line is that when Romo is off (Which is very often in big games,) we need to lean on the run. Leaning on the run will limit turnovers and mistakes by an off QB. Unfortunately Garrett and Romo both prefer to throw passes.

Another reason why many complain about the play calling is because we have probably the best trio of backs in the league, but they aren't getting the reps. Teams are "selling out to stop the pass," so when we do run the ball we have some nice gains. Why don't they realize this and continue to run the ball till teams, "Stack The Box?" Then at that point we can burn em with a nice deep pass, but not before...
 

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You are running the ball for 9 yards a clip, yet we are still 50/50 in the play calling? There is no denying that Garrett needs to work on being patient, he is pass happy.
 

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Doomsday;2967950 said:
You are running the ball for 9 yards a clip, yet we are still 50/50 in the play calling? There is no denying that Garrett needs to work on being patient, he is pass happy.

Then again maybe we wouldn't be running the ball at 9 yards a clip if the play calling wasn't 50/50.... its called keeping them off balance.
 

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CowboyFan74;2967889 said:
Garrett is going back to last years form and the year before that which inevitably cost us the big games vs better opponents. "The players aren't executing properly." Yes that is undeniable as well but let's keep calling the same plays that don't work, brilliant!!!

The bottom line is that when Romo is off (Which is very often in big games,) we need to lean on the run. Leaning on the run will limit turnovers and mistakes by an off QB. Unfortunately Garrett and Romo both prefer to throw passes.

Another reason why many complain about the play calling is because we have probably the best trio of backs in the league, but they aren't getting the reps. Teams are "selling out to stop the pass," so when we do run the ball we have some nice gains. Why don't they realize this and continue to run the ball till teams, "Stack The Box?" Then at that point we can burn em with a nice deep pass, but not before...


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rcaldw;2967954 said:
Then again maybe we wouldn't be running the ball at 9 yards a clip if the play calling wasn't 50/50.... its called keeping them off balance.

That could be true. They also weren't running the ball at 9 yards a clip in the first half. That is when Dallas passed the ball more than they ran it. They ran it more than they passed it in the second half and got the average up to 9 yards per carry.
 
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