I'm Starting to Turn to the Dark Side

[maryquality]

I spent thousands going to these games, not this season. Maybe go to Tennessee, not going to Texas boring there

Hey now!!! That's not nice to talk about my state like that!!

 

[John813]

I've come to grips that this team will have to win in spite of Jerry. I don't know if it can...my fandom still remains not because of what Jerry has done but because I was born into this.....and its not as easy to leave...and I love the players they have I just don't love the structure or disfunction.

That was my train of thought but now with the core of this team always coming up short and changes on the horizon I don't think we can luck into winning in spite of the GM.

People can say what they will about Dak. But we had 4 years of him on a cheap deal and never bothered to try to "win now" or be aggressive in trades/FA. It was low key signings, praying in the draft and trading for R Quinn for a year. We see some teams be aggressive and get burned, but others do it like the Rams and they at least can say they go all out to contend every year. Make the SB and come up short the next few years? Deuces QB and RB.
I feel like if Jerry ever made the SB again with any duo of QB and RB he would rock them till they turned 40 or retired and fled to Canada to get away from him.

Our core is on huge 2nd contracts, minus Diggs and Parsons and guys are losing their peak play, especially our Oline and DLaw has been very good but not elite/27mil cap hit worth.

 

[Blast From The Past]

Jerry Jones culture presented to the players is a big problem IMHO.

 

[Reid1boys]

I have been a Cowboys fan since 1988ish.... and i have had enough.
This team is mediocre and im fed up

Change over to the Browns... they are about to shoot up like Tesla stock.

 

[youngjerryjones]

Imagine you were a Bills fan and had to wake up this morning…28 other teams right now have these feelings, some worse than others

 

[kskboys]

I'll just comment on this-

This happens because of bad faith accusations lobbed against good faith arguments. It's the hater/homer label. Like it or not, people who are fans of the same team don't see things the same way. When someone gives their good faith interpretation of a play and someone accuses them of hate/homerism and makes it personal, you're going to have a certain amount of animosity. For that reason, you can't be surprised at the crowing when one side is vindicated.

Yup. It's gotten a bit better since that Rocky feller left. He was the cause of a bunch of bad feelings on this site w/ his constant insults. Hope he doesn't come back.

 

[visionary]

In the end, the only thing that matters is results.

We can like and hate players, like and hate coaches, like and hate the front office, but in the end, the only thing that matters is results.

We can support and root for the Cowboys every year, but in the end, the only thing that matters is results.

Love Dak or hate Dak, love McCarthy or hate McCarthy, none of that matters .. in the end, they lost.

That is what matters.

ok that’s confusing, can you whittle it down to what you think really really really matters?

 

[visionary]

Bottom line HC, OC and OL coach have to go

Dak needs a real HC and OC and an OL rebuild to sit him down and help him correct his mechanics and learn to read defences to have ANY chance at competing in the playoffs next year

neither of these things is going to happen so, rinse and repeat

 

[DallasEast]

 

[75boyz]

Have some background in human behavior.
Behavioral patterns are not easily changed and this is to include the entire makeup of a person.
To include the athletic traits of an athlete.

 

[Reality]

ok that’s confusing, can you whittle it down to what you think really really really matters?

LOSING = BAD!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That was my train of thought but now with the core of this team always coming up short and changes on the horizon I don't think we can luck into winning in spite of the GM.

People can say what they will about Dak. But we had 4 years of him on a cheap deal and never bothered to try to "win now" or be aggressive in trades/FA. It was low key signings, praying in the draft and trading for R Quinn for a year. We see some teams be aggressive and get burned, but others do it like the Rams and they at least can say they go all out to contend every year. Make the SB and come up short the next few years? Deuces QB and RB.
I feel like if Jerry ever made the SB again with any duo of QB and RB he would rock them till they turned 40 or retired and fled to Canada to get away from him.

Our core is on huge 2nd contracts, minus Diggs and Parsons and guys are losing their peak play, especially our Oline and DLaw has been very good but not elite/27mil cap hit worth.

I agree 100% with you.....we wasted Dirk's 4 years of his career with Garrett.....wasted Romo's career with Garrett.....and fans sit here thinking replacing players is going to fix our issues. Oh no...i'm sorry to tell them but we have more pressing issues.

 

[HungryLion]

I hear ya. I am disgusted with just about the entire team right now.

starting at the top with Jerry. All the way through to the last man on the roster.

the only people I’m not disgusted with right now are Parsons, Quinn and the rest of the defensive coaching staff.

everyone else let me down big time and it feels like this same old song and dance will never end.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true.

Judging by all the excuses they are making for THE GREAT Aaron Rodgers, being called a generational QB, I think they are Packer fans. THE GREAT Aaron Rodger choked again but they said it was because of the weather, his toe must be still hurting him, he's the only good player on that team, he wasn't focused because he is upset at the organization and wants out so he can pull a Brady, etc. It's a shame so-called Cowboys will beat the living s**t out of our QB but makes excuses for THE GREAT Aaron Rodgers. Let's see if Kurt Warner devotes a YouTube video showing all this failures like he did with Dak. I bet he doesn't do it.

I agree with on the rest. I'm very disappointed in this team. I made bold predictions this year, half of them came true but the boldest of the mall didn't. I'll be rooting for my favorite team next year like I always do but I won't make any bold predictions anymore. It's sad that some people here root against Dak because of their agenda. You root against Dak, you root against the team. Period!

 

[Haimerej]

LOSING = BAD!

But what about ties?

 

[TexasBacon]

Imagine you were a Bills fan and had to wake up this morning…28 other teams right now have these feelings, some worse than others

While I would certainly be bummed if Dallas lost the way the Bills did, I wouldn't be as ashamed as I am of the Cowboys. The Bills fought. Yeah, the kickoff at the end may have been one bad call but the Bills were prepared and played their tails off. They made all the plays they needed to and that was one of the best games of football I've ever watched. I'm not saying I'd be happy with a loss but there is some merit in losing to that Chiefs team on the road in the Divisional round the way they did versus losing to Garoppolo at home in the Wild Card round after not scoring more than 16 points. The Bills scored more points in the 4th quarter against the KC defense than Dallas did all game against a Bosa-less SF defense.

Your point isn't lost on me but Dallas lost because of many factors that could have been addressed by the front office, players, and coaches over the season. The Bills did address all of those things and just lost after playing a great game. I felt infinitely better about losing to Rodgers in 2016 than I did this year.

 

[Cowboysfandarin]

that aint changing and it isnt Jerry's fault.

Could you imagine if it was the Cowboys that lost to the Chiefs and kicked off into the endzone?
Could you imagine if the Cowboys lost to the Rams because they let Cooper Kupp run unimpeded down the field to catch that long pass at the end of the game.

All we would be hearing about for the next three days is our lack of discipline, lack of defensive coordinator, lack of head coach for not kicking short of the endzone.
You wont hear any of it... because it isnt the Cowboys, and if it isnt the Cowboys, its not as relevant.

This team doesn’t play with unity. They don’t play with cohesiveness. And they definitely don’t play with everything they got. The 49ers? Now that’s a team that plays with cohesiveness, has gelled, and plays above and beyond their ability. that’s why they won! Simply put, better coached, hungrier players who wanted more than we did.

I agree with you the days of hard-core disciplinary coaches thay smack you upside the head and grab you by the face mask and scream in your face are over. We saw that this past week with the Bucs coach. But there’s a modern way that a coach can be a disciplinarian and get the most out of his players. Sean Payton is a prime example of that. He’s a hard-nosed coach. He will sit your tail if you’re not hungry to win.

 

[fivetwos]

I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.

I'm with you.

No one wants to be 'negative,' but its just been way too long of the same thing over and over of an unconventional structure that has obvious contradictions.

I remember seeing Jerry on Entourage saying...."I'm grooming my son to take over as GM...."

Yeah well who is gonna teach YOU??

Ita a brutal spot and we need to be worlds better than all other teams to overcome it.

It's not likely to happen.

We are repeatedly outcoached and never out coach an opponent. EVER.

How is that? Maybe let's look at the guy who hires these coaches and gets it wrong again and again.

 

[Jarntt]

This isnt Hard... Bengals sucked, got Joe B and bam... conference title game.

Bills sucked, Got Allen, Bam... legit SB contender that has ran into the best QB in the league the last 2 years.

Chiefs...were a solid team, but never gonna see a SB. Got Mahomes, wala, 4 straight AFC title games, and IMO, about to be in 3 straight super bowls.

Bucs, sucked for 11 straight seasons, got Brady, bam... SB win.


99% of our roster and coaches are good enough to get to the SB, we just dont have any of the above mentioned guys.


Do you honestly think the Bucs and Bills just happend to develop a full roster and they landed great coaches at the same time as getting their QB?

Its not Mike... although Ive never liked him.

Aaron Rodgers was a big MVP favorite and Bam one and done. Stop pretending Dak is the only problem with this team.

Also, we (and GB) lost to a team with Jimmy G as QB. That in and of itself is telling about your assumption

 

[Reid1boys]

This team doesn’t play with unity. They don’t play with cohesiveness. And they definitely don’t play with everything they got. The 49ers? Now that’s a team that plays with cohesiveness, has gelled, and plays above and beyond their ability. that’s why they won! Simply put, better coached, hungrier players who wanted more than we did.

I agree with you the days of hard-core disciplinary coaches thay smack you upside the head and grab you by the face mask and scream in your face are over. We saw that this past week with the Bucs coach. But there’s a modern way that a coach can be a disciplinarian and get the most out of his players. Sean Payton is a prime example of that. He’s a hard-nosed coach. He will sit your tail if you’re not hungry to win.

What does playing with unity mean? Did the Bucs play with "Unity?' Do the Bills? they lost? Did the Chiefs win because of "Unity?"