Injury Reports: PUP, IR, or NFI?

casmith07

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A lot of people talk about injuries. One of this website's great posters, @Muhast, asked me about NFI vs. PUP.

Here are the basics:

Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) - Preseason
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Player must be unable to take part in training camp practices
  • Player must be removed from the PUP list as soon as he practices, even if it's for 1 minute
Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) - Regular Season
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Player must finish preseason on the PUP-P list
  • Must sit out the first six games of the regular season
  • After that, teams get five weeks (until week 11) to determine if the player will stay on PUP for the year, or make the 53.
  • In addition, once a player begins practicing after Week 6, teams have 21 days to determine if he will make the 53
  • If five weeks pass or 21 days pass with no determination, the player goes on PUP/IR for the remainder of the season.
Injured Reserve (IR)
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Injury must be sustained while player was in a fully cleared status (healthy and participating)
  • Main difference with PUP -- IR is for players who were healthy and then got hurt, PUP is for players who start training camp/regular season hurt
Non-Football Injury (NFI)
  • Operates under the same rules as PUP and IR
  • Injury must be pre-professional football related (i.e., a college football injury) or must be an injury, disease, or illness that is completely unrelated to football (cancer, etc.)
 

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Thanks @casmith07 ! I knew a lot about PUP but not much about the NFI list. Okoye is who sparked the conversation about the difference.
 

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Non-Football Injury (NFI)
  • Operates under the same rules as PUP and IR
  • Injury must be pre-professional football related (i.e., a college football injury) or must be an injury, disease, or illness that is completely unrelated to football (cancer, etc.)

I don't understand. PUP and IR have different rules. Which apply to NFI?
 

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A lot of people talk about injuries. One of this website's great posters, @Muhast, asked me about NFI vs. PUP.

Here are the basics:

Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) - Preseason
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Player must be unable to take part in training camp practices
  • Player must be removed from the PUP list as soon as he practices, even if it's for 1 minute
Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) - Regular Season
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Player must finish preseason on the PUP-P list
  • Must sit out the first six games of the regular season
  • After that, teams get five weeks (until week 11) to determine if the player will stay on PUP for the year, or make the 53.
  • In addition, once a player begins practicing after Week 6, teams have 21 days to determine if he will make the 53
  • If five weeks pass or 21 days pass with no determination, the player goes on PUP/IR for the remainder of the season.
Injured Reserve (IR)
  • Injury must be professional football related
  • Injury must be sustained while player was in a fully cleared status (healthy and participating)
  • Main difference with PUP -- IR is for players who were healthy and then got hurt, PUP is for players who start training camp/regular season hurt
Non-Football Injury (NFI)
  • Operates under the same rules as PUP and IR
  • Injury must be pre-professional football related (i.e., a college football injury) or must be an injury, disease, or illness that is completely unrelated to football (cancer, etc.)
I thought that they could come off NFI without waiting 6 weeks like PUP.

They reported last week that Okoye would practice but was still in NFI. I'm still unsure if that report was correct.
 

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I don't understand. PUP and IR have different rules. Which apply to NFI?

So Okoye can't play until Week 7?

I thought that they could come off NFI without waiting 6 weeks like PUP.

They reported last week that Okoye would practice but was still in NFI. I'm still unsure if that report was correct.

I originally thought the same. I was under the impression that NFI had no limitations, but it's the same as PUP as far as I could find by research - a player can be promoted to the 53 after Week 6 from the NFI list.
 

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I originally thought the same. I was under the impression that NFI had no limitations, but it's the same as PUP as far as I could find by research - a player can be promoted to the 53 after Week 6 from the NFI list.
Yes, aparently cowboys.com says Okoye out minimum of 6 weeks.

I guess the only reason for having NFI and PUP has to do with injury settlements. I'm sure they don't have to give NFI guys a settlement. There might be some other pay related issue involved.
 
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