Interest in TE Tyler Eifert?

[millennial_legend]

He'll be back at some point during the season, but we'll slide Martin over to LG to give Peters a little help in his waning year(s).

Peters - Martin - Kelce - Brooks - Johnson

I genuinely think Martin will be a HoF lock before he hits 30. Deal!

So Josh Perkins becomes your TE2... lol.

 

[joseephuss]

So by the same rules, if he's earning his money, he's on the field and we have ourselves a potential top 5 TE.

Isn't saying he is a potential top 5 TE making something up? He has never played long enough to prove he is at that level. He hasn't finished in the top ten in either receptions or yards, much less top 5. Julius Thomas had two seasons with 12 TD receptions, but he was an average TE at best. Why is Eifert any different? He just hasn't been on the field to truly gauge whether he is good or not.

I've seen several comparisons to Sean Lee as far as the injury front. Eifert has missed more games than Lee while playing in 3 fewer seasons. That is tough to accomplish.

 

[LittleD]

I’d rather pay 3MM to Eifert and bank on his potential than Stephen bring in a few of his crap special FAs.

I fully understand that you and others on the board would make that deal but, would Stephen??? Doubt it!

 

[Hawkeye0202]

One thing to remember, when Stephen made the comment about upgrading the TE position, it was made in context with our red zone/scoring issues. This is why I'm 100% confidence we will sign a vet. Quite frankly considering Eifert 13 TDs in 2015 AND his brother-in-law is a team captain and one our highest paid players, it's waaay to good for Stephen Jones to pass up IMO. But I don't think vet signing will stop them from taking let's say an Irv Smith at 58 if he's there.

 

[Sydla]

So Brooks is going to be out next year huh? Either way.. DEAL

Ertz for Martin?

Insane.

 

[Stash]

I'm not arguing for Rico, I'm just saying we haven't closed the book yet.

Fair enough.

A 2nd or 3rd round pick wouldn't be sitting all of 2019, the mostly likely scenario is they would contribute late in the season like Dalton Schultz did (but at a higher level) or a guy like Conner Williams or Maliek Colllins that is very average as a rookie but has upside for the future.

Sounds a lot like what I said, not a whole lot in 2019.

Also this is a very deep draft for TEs, its entirely possible a guy like Irv Smith drops to us at 58 the way Conner Williams dropped to 50 this year.

Could be, but again, we won't be getting a whole lot this year.

 

[Stash]

Isn't saying he is a potential top 5 TE making something up?

No, it isn't. When healthy, however infrequently, his numbers were in the top 5 at the position.

He has never played long enough to prove he is at that level. He hasn't finished in the top ten in either receptions or yards, much less top 5. Julius Thomas had two seasons with 12 TD receptions, but he was an average TE at best. Why is Eifert any different? He just hasn't been on the field to truly gauge whether he is good or not.

That not true. Say what you will about the injuries, but when he plays, he's among the best at the position.

I've seen several comparisons to Sean Lee as far as the injury front. Eifert has missed more games than Lee while playing in 3 fewer seasons. That is tough to accomplish.

No doubt.

 

[xwalker]

Cheap option and red zone beast, WHEN he's healthy......



This was his 2018 one year contract with Bengals

Tyler Eifert signed a 1 year, $5,500,000 contract with the Cincinnati Bengals, including a $3,000,000 signing bonus, $3,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,500,000. In , Eifert will earn a base salary of , a signing bonus of , a roster bonus of , a signing bonus of , a restructure bonus of , a workout bonus of and a incentive bonus of , while carrying a cap hit of and a dead cap value of .

The number of games missed....
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EifeTy00.htm

How cheap? 5.5M with 3M for a player that has only started 33% of all possible regular season games due to injuries is NOT really cheap from a probability investment perspective.

TEs make less with the current top contract averaging 10M therefore 5.5M, 3M guaranteed is not the same bargain it would be if DE Khalil Mack was an injury prone player because a healthy Mack is making 23.5M per.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So Josh Perkins becomes your TE2... lol.

I heard Tyler Eiffert is available...

 

[blueblood70]

eagles fans ugh

 

[Hawkeye0202]

How cheap? 5.5M with 3M for a player that has only started 33% of all possible regular season games due to injuries is NOT really cheap from a probability investment perspective.

TEs make less with the current top contract averaging 10M therefore 5.5M, 3M guaranteed is not the same bargain it would be if DE Khalil Mack was an injury prone player because a healthy Mack is making 23.5M per.

I think he made $4-5M last year on a one year deal but was injured again. I'm guessing he's lucky to find a team willing to give him more than $2M guaranteed on a prove-it deal.

 

[Alexander]

One thing to remember, when Stephen made the comment about upgrading the TE position, it was made in context with our red zone/scoring issues. This is why I'm 100% confidence we will sign a vet. Quite frankly considering Eifert 13 TDs in 2015 AND his brother-in-law is a team captain and one our highest paid players, it's waaay to good for Stephen Jones to pass up IMO. But I don't think vet signing will stop them from taking let's say an Irv Smith at 58 if he's there.

If they sign Eifert, they wipe their face with a napkin, burp and push themselves away from the table.

 

[SSoup]

so...he's a better Geoff Swaim.

pass.

draft one or pursue Jesse James,Steelers.

I mean, saying Eifert is a better Geoff Swaim is like saying Ezekiel Elliott is a better Rod Smith.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I’d gamble on him but you can’t rely on this guy. He’s not worth the money if he can’t get on the field.

 

[cowboyec]

I mean, saying Eifert is a better Geoff Swaim is like saying Ezekiel Elliott is a better Rod Smith.

no....it's not.
who cares how much better he is if he misses the same amount of games.
Id rather up-grade to a healthier...more reliable option.

 

[Alexander]

no....it's not.
who cares how much better he is if he misses the same amount of games.
Id rather up-grade to a healthier...more reliable option.

In free agency?

He has the most talent of what you have to choose from.

I would much rather roll the dice on him than on a guy like Dion Sims, Jared Cook or Austin Sefarian-Jenkins.

 

[cowboyec]

In free agency?

He has the most talent of what you have to choose from.

I would much rather roll the dice on him than on a guy like Dion Sims, Jared Cook or Austin Sefarian-Jenkins.

I'd rather get the up-grade thru the draft.

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

We should sign him. Perfect for our team and we could reap the benefits.

He would be a great pickup with his ability to play inline or outside wide. Just makes the running game little more potent.

 

[Alexander]

I'd rather get the up-grade thru the draft.

So would most people.

But our draft position makes that hard. We can't go into the draft with the idea of TE at #58 or bust.

That is a recipe for a reach.

And the player we could get there would quite possibly be no better than Dalton Schultz.

This is a deep TE draft. That is correct.

But we are not getting any of the top three guys. Then it comes down to the rest.

They just need to do their work on Eifert and especially, structure the contract right, if they go that route.

 

[SSoup]

no....it's not.
who cares how much better he is if he misses the same amount of games.
Id rather up-grade to a healthier...more reliable option.

One guy averages 12 yards per catch and scores a TD every 6 catches on average. The other averages 3 fewer yards per catch and takes 35 catches to find the end zone once.

Just because they're both TEs with injury stuff doesn't mean they're even remotely the same kind of player. One is actually a weapon when he's healthy and the other arguably contributed the most to the passing game just by getting hurt and letting a better receiver play..

I wouldn't sign him for big money and I wouldn't blindly assume he'll magically be healthy enough to solve the TE position. But if his injury baggage gets him slapped with a bargain bin price tag, I'd take a flier. I'd still plan on signing, drafting, or trading for another TE option, though. I think we need to add two nice options to Schultz and Jarwin this offseason, and Eifert would be fine as one of those options. Unless we have plans to add a Jimmy Graham type, who would also be a lottery ticket veteran, in which case Eifert would be redundant at that point.