Interesting Darren McFadden stats

[JDSmith]

While historically accurate, the team seems to be headed in the right direction.

What they really need IMO is a few years of stability with the coaching staff. You can't bring in new coaches every year or two and expect good results.

 

[Nightman]

The only interesting stat about McFadden is that he is only 5 months older than Murray.

 

[xwalker]

wad up the toilet paper with "1,800 YARDS for Mcfadden in DAL in 2015 and 2016" written on it

My pet peeve is over the top predictions with no ramifications if they are wrong. I find lofty predictions to be used to draw attention to the person making the prediction, not to the player or team. It's like screaming Look at Me and beating your chest.

It is different if it is humorous, such as predicting a thousand yards for all 4 RBs as an obvious joke.

 

[TheDude]

My pet peeve is over the top predictions with no ramifications if they are wrong. I find lofty predictions to be used to draw attention to the person making the prediction, not to the player or team. It's like screaming Look at Me and beating your chest.

It is different if it is humorous, such as predicting a thousand yards for all 4 RBs as an obvious joke.

you must hate economists

 

[AmericasTeam81]

What is so interesting about mcfaddens stats? They are average at best. I'm still rooting for the guy I wanted out of college in 2008

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Floaty, look at his highlight clips....he still runs away from guys. He is still a burner. I am hoping that Williams and Randle are the main runners and McFadden is the third down back. Best pass protector of the backs we have and the best open field runner as well. He could be killer on dump passes and screens.

 

[Floatyworm]

Floaty, look at his highlight clips....he still runs away from guys. He is still a burner. I am hoping that Williams and Randle are the main runners and McFadden is the third down back. Best pass protector of the backs we have and the best open field runner as well. He could be killer on dump passes and screens.

Look @ highlight clips from 2 years ago when he had a little gas left in the tank????........Or look @ OTAs from last week ....to come to the conclusion the guy is gonna be on the bubble.

You telling me Ryan Williams wasn't running laps around him?........

Our RB situation is just scary.....

Ryan Williams' knee already swelling up
Mcfadden is done. Mcfadden and "burner" in the same sentence........
Joe Meat Bone Randle just doesn't know when to shut his mouth
Dunbar hasn't been the same since his knee injury

Yet....we are fine @ RB according to everybody.

Sounds like the typical Cowboy sell job to get fans ready for the season. How many times have we seen this song and dance? It's always something...and this year it's the RBS.

 

[Doc50]

Look @ highlight clips from 2 years ago when he had a little gas left in the tank????........Or look @ OTAs from last week ....to come to the conclusion the guy is gonna be on the bubble.

You telling me Ryan Williams wasn't running laps around him?........

Our RB situation is just scary.....

Ryan Williams' knee already swelling up
Mcfadden is done. Mcfadden and "burner" in the same sentence........
Joe Meat Bone Randle just doesn't know when to shut his mouth
Dunbar hasn't been the same since his knee injury

Yet....we are fine @ RB according to everybody.

Sounds like the typical Cowboy sell job to get fans ready for the season. How many times have we seen this song and dance? It's always something...and this year it's the RBS.

It's a bit early to get all panicky about any perceived weakness on the roster.

This will be sorted out in TC.

The #1 RB to open the season may not currently be on the team.

JJ has moved past hype, and is building a blue-chip team (under the guidance of others).

 

[xwalker]

you must hate economists

And weather people...

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

After talking to some people in another thread about running back numbers and how they can be misleading, I wanted to look at the granular stats for McFadden.

When running with a lead McFadden averaged 4.1 yards per carry last year. The problem with this number however is that McFadden only ran with a lead for 22 carries last year. When the game was tied he also ran for 4.1 yards per carry though. This only happened under 41 carries though.

McFadden had 92 carries playing from behind. And when he played from behind his numbers dropped to 3 yards per carry. When down 9 or more points, his averages dropped to 2.2 yards per carry. When behind, no one was afraid of that Oakland offense. Period, point blank. One of their best wide receiver couldn't even make this team... (Andre Holmes)

This lead me to want to investigate McFadden a little bit more, and so I did.

You can look at his 2013 numbers and they reveal that this isn't a fluke.

In 2013, with the lead McFadden averaged 4.4 yards per carry, when behind he averaged 1.9 yards per carry. Tied, he averaged 3.7 yards per carry.

There were a couple years in which he was actually a pretty good running back. I don't think that was a fluke either. They were the only two years that the Raiders were even remotely good (8-8 both years).

I mean it is entirely possible that he is done as a player or at least done as a special player, but I really think we need to evaluate him going forward on what he does here, and give him somewhat of a pass for Oakland.

He isn't the only player to have struggled there. Randy Moss was actually in a very similar situation. Carson Palmer also struggled in Oakland.

Very nice!

Quite honestly. If anyone believes that it ISN'T going to be NIGHT AND DAY is just hating or being negative prematurely.

NIGHT - running for raiders, no coach, no QB, no oline, no other weapons.

DAY - running for cowboys, coach that runs the ball behind a pretty darn good oline, pretty darn good QB who needs his Terrell David to get at Super Bowl and a slew of other weapons.

If anyone thinks that that right there isn't enough to have him light it up for us then. I don't know what is..... We'll see

 

[Hoov]

And weather people...

LOL - the drama that weather reporters creat is way over the top now.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Look @ highlight clips from 2 years ago when he had a little gas left in the tank????........Or look @ OTAs from last week ....to come to the conclusion the guy is gonna be on the bubble.

You telling me Ryan Williams wasn't running laps around him?........

Our RB situation is just scary.....

Ryan Williams' knee already swelling up
Mcfadden is done. Mcfadden and "burner" in the same sentence........
Joe Meat Bone Randle just doesn't know when to shut his mouth
Dunbar hasn't been the same since his knee injury

Yet....we are fine @ RB according to everybody.

Sounds like the typical Cowboy sell job to get fans ready for the season. How many times have we seen this song and dance? It's always something...and this year it's the RBS.

You were all panicky before last year too....same **** different day I guess.

And yeah, in OTA's he was looking good too

 

[Garrettop]

I wasn't on this board at the time, but going into last year I had said to people who cared that if Dallas' defense could manage to improve even a little bit, then they could win the division, and I got laughed at because "everyone knew" that the previously atrocious defense could only have gotten worse. Well, we know how that turned out. Now, instead of an entire unit, we have one particular position (ignoring questions in the secondary for this thread) that isn't stellar and somehow that is going to derail the team as much as the whole defensive side of the ball was supposed to last year. Give me a break.

 

[skinsscalper]

After talking to some people in another thread about running back numbers and how they can be misleading, I wanted to look at the granular stats for McFadden.

When running with a lead McFadden averaged 4.1 yards per carry last year. The problem with this number however is that McFadden only ran with a lead for 22 carries last year. When the game was tied he also ran for 4.1 yards per carry though. This only happened under 41 carries though.

McFadden had 92 carries playing from behind. And when he played from behind his numbers dropped to 3 yards per carry. When down 9 or more points, his averages dropped to 2.2 yards per carry. When behind, no one was afraid of that Oakland offense. Period, point blank. One of their best wide receiver couldn't even make this team... (Andre Holmes)

This lead me to want to investigate McFadden a little bit more, and so I did.

You can look at his 2013 numbers and they reveal that this isn't a fluke.

In 2013, with the lead McFadden averaged 4.4 yards per carry, when behind he averaged 1.9 yards per carry. Tied, he averaged 3.7 yards per carry.

There were a couple years in which he was actually a pretty good running back. I don't think that was a fluke either. They were the only two years that the Raiders were even remotely good (8-8 both years).

I mean it is entirely possible that he is done as a player or at least done as a special player, but I really think we need to evaluate him going forward on what he does here, and give him somewhat of a pass for Oakland.

He isn't the only player to have struggled there. Randy Moss was actually in a very similar situation. Carson Palmer also struggled in Oakland.

I'm going to give you a like, here, because I like the premise of the thread. Like theogt, I'm not 100% sure what the relevance is or how it may compare to other backs but I like the fact that the OP is thought provoking. I've given you my fair share of a hard time form time to time here, but I have to admit that this is some pretty good stuff. Credit and criticism are earned. Credit to you, this is a nice thread, GB.

 

[locked&loaded]

What do you mean you can't see anything? I'm telling you the guy has dead legs.....and it's fairly obvious. I understand fans don't get it that haven't played the position...

He was washed up in Oakland 2 years ago.......And all this "hype" to get people excited is just another Jerry sell job.

And I take it you haven't seen a Jerry sell job either?

Fairly obvious in the total minute of film you saw him running in shorts? savant scout man!