Is Dak back in the MVP conversation?

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Lot's of truth about winning records.

Fwiw though, Drake only throws for 8.5 yards per game less than Dak. He throws it plenty. So does Stafford
Be careful with averages. They can be misleading. Does Drake have that 350 in him if he needs to win? We'll see.
 
I dont care about this, show me the same caliber of play in the playoffs and then I'll get on board. Still waiting.
 
Be careful with averages. They can be misleading. Does Drake have that 350 in him if he needs to win? We'll see.

he's throwing for close to the same yards, with a higher rating, ypa, and %....uh, I think he has it in him

but he is still really young. Sky is the limit but I'm sure he'll have kiccups along the way like everyone else.
 
He has. But they're going to vote for the QB with the best record. Maye doesn't throw for 300 yards because he doesn't have to. Dak had to in several of those wins. They won't take any of that into consideration. How didn't Barkley win MVP last year? If there was ever a case for a RB, that was it.
Agreed. That's why I say these biased polls for MVP are a darn joke!
 
Lot's of truth about winning records.

Fwiw though, Drake only throws for 8.5 yards per game less than Dak. He throws it plenty. So does Stafford
Maye also has ZERO 4th quarter comebacks and ONE game winning drive. Stafford has one of each. Dak has 4 comebacks and 3 game winning drives. So he has been far more impactful for his team's wins than either of those two. Dak leads the league in on target throws with 321. Maye is 14th with 267. The fact that he still is completing 71% of his passes tells me is receivers are bailing him out at a high rate. Stafford is 5th with 287 on target throws. His bad throw percentage of 18.7 is 6th worst in the league among qualifiers. So his guys are also helping him out a ton.

Like it or not, all of the numbers will go into the MVP evaluation not just TDs and INTs. That's why Dak's QBR is higher than these other two guys.. well higher than everybody's frankly.. Dak's play has been more impactful towards his team winning games. Don't read that to mean the team won ... because we all know a guy can play great and his team still lose because the other TEAM plays better.. ask Patrick Mahomes about Thanksgiving. So people just citing the obvious stats like yards, TDs and INTs are only looking at about 1/3 of the picture. And maybe the MVP voters will do the same.. and they will be wrong to do so.
 
If he plays for the rest of the season like he has played the last 2 games then yes.
 
As stated before last night, Dak wasn't even in the MVP conversation.

His individual stats now read as 26 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.

Team record of 6-6-1.

Those are Ryan Fitzpatrick type numbers.

I presume people are just trolling and/or deluded beyond help at this point if they genuinely believe he's an MVP candidate.
 
“Dak back in the MVP conversation?" After last night’s Detroit game? Let’s be honest — Goff looked way better, made clean reads, and made plays under pressure. Dak? Still relying on his top WR, perfect line, and coaching scheme to carry him.

MVP isn’t about stats in a padded pocket or highlight reels — it’s about elite performance when things get ugly. And last night proved exactly why Dak isn’t in that conversation. Facts > feelings.
 
Updated MVP Odds on Fanduel
Top 2 still about dead even and WAY ahead of everyone else

+100 Maye
+105 Stafford
+1400 Love
+3000 Allen
+5000 Williams
+8000 Prescott
 
As stated before last night, Dak wasn't even in the MVP conversation.

His individual stats now read as 26 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.

Team record of 6-6-1.

Those are Ryan Fitzpatrick type numbers.

I presume people are just trolling and/or deluded beyond help at this point if they genuinely believe he's an MVP candidate.
Dude we are all mad we lost but we don't need to be saying stupid ish like this. Fitzpatrick had exactly ZERO seasons where his TD/INT ration was greater than 2.5 to 1. Dak has had 5 such seasons and this would make 6 if he finishes where he is. Fitzpatrick got just above 2 to 1 two times with a 31/15 year and a 17/8 year. Dak's highest INT total was 15 in 2022. Fitzpatrick had 5 seasons of at least 15 picks and 4 other double digit INT years. That's 9 seasons of double digit picks in the 12 seasons where he started at least half the games. Dak has 5 double digit INT seasons in his 10 seasons. Dak is the 8th highest rated passer of all time. Fitzpatrick is #77.

What was the point of throwing out such an inaccurate statement? Just venting?
 
This all day.
:hammer:This is true but the real fact is he didn't have a bad game there was no blocking no running his receivers created interceptions ferguson fumble I mean sure let's blame the quarterback....

I don't see where people can see he had a bad game he didn't play perfectly because everything was going bad around him that's just how it works..
 
Dude we are all mad we lost but we don't need to be saying stupid ish like this. Fitzpatrick had exactly ZERO seasons where his TD/INT ration was greater than 2.5 to 1. Dak has had 5 such seasons and this would make 6 if he finishes where he is. Fitzpatrick got just above 2 to 1 two times with a 31/15 year and a 17/8 year. Dak's highest INT total was 15 in 2022. Fitzpatrick had 5 seasons of at least 15 picks and 4 other double digit INT years. That's 9 seasons of double digit picks in the 12 seasons where he started at least half the games. Dak has 5 double digit INT seasons in his 10 seasons. Dak is the 8th highest rated passer of all time. Fitzpatrick is #77.

What was the point of throwing out such an inaccurate statement? Just venting?
They couldn't wait for a game like this that they can blame it on Prescott they couldn't handle him getting all his flowers and then yet here we sit with two receivers who created interceptions and a tight end that fumble the ball and there was no running no blocking and no defense and sure we circle back around to blaming Prescott...
 
“Dak back in the MVP conversation?" After last night’s Detroit game? Let’s be honest — Goff looked way better, made clean reads, and made plays under pressure. Dak? Still relying on his top WR, perfect line, and coaching scheme to carry him.

MVP isn’t about stats in a padded pocket or highlight reels — it’s about elite performance when things get ugly. And last night proved exactly why Dak isn’t in that conversation. Facts > feelings.
The kind of thing we'll never know unless someone wants to do some under the bus comments, but a lot of people complaining that coaches went away from deep threats, but how much of that was Dak and is usual playoff too conservative freeze.
 
QBs of teams that aren’t in the playoff hunt aren’t mvp candidates. Dak was never a real candidate, and the team showed last night it wasn’t close to being a playoff contender.
 
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