Is it conservative or just bad play calling?

[Alexander]

Sarge, Cbz40 and Alexander got the right on.

I would be very happy with a 4-0 record, but I would still have the same concerns that I have now. I would have concerns that some of these things if not corrected would come back to hurt the team at critical times against teams like the Eagles. I think the play calling is consistent. Sure the execution hasn't always been great and I think you can to some extent play call around poor execution.

Interesting theory about being conservative because the execution is not there. But what is frustrating is that it is not even just conservative. We are playing the percentages wrong when the most logical choice IS to be conservative (putting in Thomas when we have momentum against Washington, running Barber on short yardage, the fake punt, the decision on the goalline against Oakland). Poor execution only exacerbates, not causes the result.

 

[AdamJT13]

The response immediatly above was your first response I replied to. You were not asking me. It was an open question. You were asking the board. I simply replied in a manner that reflects what many of the board memebers seemed to be thinking. I did not say, that was what I thought.

Well, since you said it, maybe you should be more clear when you're speaking for everyone else and not yourself -- particularly when what you say conflicts with your own opinion.

Still, there is no justification for your second response.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, since you said it, maybe you should be more clear when you're speaking for everyone else and not yourself -- particularly when what you say conflicts with your own opinion.

Still, there is no justification for your second response.

That would be one persons opinion. It is not mine.

You have answered the question I set fourth. You have no interest in letting this go by the boards.

That is fine.

I require no more advice or comment, for that matter, from you.

I understand your intentions.

 

[blindzebra]

Interesting theory about being conservative because the execution is not there. But what is frustrating is that it is not even just conservative. We are playing the percentages wrong when the most logical choice IS to be conservative (putting in Thomas when we have momentum against Washington, running Barber on short yardage, the fake punt, the decision on the goalline against Oakland). Poor execution only exacerbates, not causes the result.

That is exactly what I've been saying all along.

It's poor play design and we are misusing our personnel.

We do not have the players to run the stretch play, but we keep doing it.

Jones and Bledsoe are a bad fit for a lot of short passes.

3 step drops, in do-or-die situations, are beyond stupid with a QB that can't handle quick inside pressure.

The use of Thomas, Thompson and Barber to spell Jones is understandable but the timing and the kinds of plays being ran have been awful. It looks more like preseason out there. Crucial points in real games is not the time to see who can run certain plays.

The same thing is happening on defense when teams are exploiting the 3-4 with 3 wide.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Except in rare cases, I think playcalling is vastly overrated. I didn't really care for the last two plays called on the goalline against the Raiders, but that's just a preference and even those could have turned out okay with better throws...

But even Parcells said eariler in the year that it's not playcalling, but game plan that is important. And I think he told us all what he was going to do: Go back to the 2003 formula of running a lot -- even when you don't get many yards -- to shorten the game and rest the defense. Last year he said he got off track in thinking that Vinny could throw it well and he had Keyshawn here, but it led to too many mistakes, and he was going back to the way he did things before.

The question is, why hasn't that worked so far this year, even though we have far better talent this time around? I guess the obvious answer is the big play on defense.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If our players can't seem to master the plays they've been running since July how in God's name would be expect them to perform with a radical change of direction such as say going shotgun on every down with 3-wides? The fact is this offense would implode.

What everyone is forgetting as it applies to the offense and Bledose in particular, Parcells is saving Bledsoe from himself by running the type of offense that we are. You go to a more open style of attack and you'll have turnovers and negative plays become epidemic. Drew can not stand back there and sling the ball over over the field... it won't work. Defenses will either blitz him to death or just continue to make it very difficult for him to throw deep resulting in sacks (and the ever present Bledsoe problem-- fumbles) from coverage. Bledsoe can't do it. We don't have an offensive line that can do it. And outside of Glenn I don't think we have wide receivers that can do it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If our players can't seem to master the plays they've been running since July how in God's name would be expect them to perform with a radical change of direction such as say going shotgun on every down with 3-wides? The fact is this offense would implode.

What everyone is forgetting as it applies to the offense and Bledose in particular, Parcells is saving Bledsoe from himself by running the type of offense that we are. You go to a more open style of attack and you'll have turnovers and negative plays become epidemic. Drew can not stand back there and sling the ball over over the field... it won't work. Defenses will either blitz him to death or just continue to make it very difficult for him to throw deep resulting in sacks (and the ever present Bledsoe problem-- fumbles) from coverage. Bledsoe can't do it. We don't have an offensive line that can do it. And outside of Glenn I don't think we have wide receivers that can do it.

We clearly pass protect better than run block.

 

[Sarge]

Ummm..I've been saying the same thing Sarge. Careful, we will be considered idiots

I can't speak for you Pappy, but I am definitely an idiot.

Good afternoon.

 

[Alexander]

That is exactly what I've been saying all along.

It's poor play design and we are misusing our personnel.

We do not have the players to run the stretch play, but we keep doing it.

Jones and Bledsoe are a bad fit for a lot of short passes.

We also need to start pulling Rivera more.

3 step drops, in do-or-die situations, are beyond stupid with a QB that can't handle quick inside pressure.

I know it is almost talking Madden here, but wouldn't Bledsoe be much more effective in a shotgun Sunday? I can just see Trotter crashing the inside. Give him five more yards to travel and Bledsoe two more seconds. Bledsoe is just so slow dropping back.

The use of Thomas, Thompson and Barber to spell Jones is understandable but the timing and the kinds of plays being ran have been awful. It looks more like preseason out there. Crucial points in real games is not the time to see who can run certain plays.

I agree. It is like we are still in exhibition season at times. Strange decisions.

The same thing is happening on defense when teams are exploiting the 3-4 with 3 wide.

We have the personnel to run a 4 down look. I would suggest trying that more often.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We clearly pass protect better than run block.

Fuzzy I don't necessarily get that from the games I'm watching. I don't think neither is stellar at this point. I don't think we have the pass protection nor the receivers to put it up 45 times a game.