Is Jerry Laying The Groundwork To Dump Garrett?

[ufcrules1]

I don't think Jerry is setting him up for nothing. Bottom line for any HC you win or you lose your job. Garrett is entering his 3rd full season as HC and yes he is under pressure to win, that would be the case with any other HC on any other team. I think Jerry wants Garrett to succeed and be the HC for many years but for that to happen Garrett has to win.

Yeah, he hasn't won yet. I'm still waiting for him to fully learn his job. It's been painful watching him learn on the job.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, he hasn't won yet. I'm still waiting for him to fully learn his job. It's been painful watching him learn on the job.

I think he understand his job I also think he is trying to make changes within the team by getting rid of certain players since he has taken over and putting in players he feels will buy into what he wants. Things do not always happen at the pace some want. I agree this is a do or die season for Garrett but I do think he has the staff in place that he wants and I think the last 3 drafts have produced some quality players and hopefully some up grade to the OL this off season can help this team make it.

I have said from the get go any HC you hire you give him time to make the changes he sees fit and if within 3 years no progress has taken place then you look to replace. I still have faith in Garrett but now is the time if he fails then so be it.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think he understand his job I also think he is trying to make changes within the team by getting rid of certain players since he has taken over and putting in players he feels will buy into what he wants. Things do not always happen at the pace some want. I agree this is a do or die season for Garrett but I do think he has the staff in place that he wants and I think the last 3 drafts have produced some quality players and hopefully some up grade to the OL this off season can help this team make it.

I have said from the get go any HC you hire you give him time to make the changes he sees fit and if within 3 years no progress has taken place then you look to replace. I still have faith in Garrett but now is the time if he fails then so be it.

Three things must happen in order for Garrett to enjoy a successful year:

1. A better o-line.
2. Team health.
3. A playmaking defense.

Those three things take place and Garrett keeps his job.

 

[Doomsday101]

Three things must happen in order for Garrett to enjoy a successful year:

1. A better o-line.
2. Team health.
3. A playmaking defense.

Those three things take place and Garrett keeps his job.

I think those thing clearly will help but I think even if those area improve some it will still take a more focused team and a more disciplined team. Dallas all too often let teams off the hook by making the dumb mistakes that would keep the opposing teams drives alive. Yes improvement on the OL will matter and team health matter or getting turnovers from the defense will matter but becoming a more disciplined team can go a long way in improving the results that often come down to 1 or 2 plays within a game.

That is the one thing I have seen with team like NE and Belicheck they are well disciplined and do not beat themselves very often.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think those thing clearly will help but I think even if those area improve some it will still take a more focused team and a more disciplined team. Dallas all too often let teams off the hook by making the dumb mistakes that would keep the opposing teams drives alive. Yes improvement on the OL will matter and team health matter or getting turnovers from the defense will matter but becoming a more disciplined team can go a long way in improving the results that often come down to 1 or 2 plays within a game.

That is the one thing I have seen with team like NE and Belicheck they are well disciplined and do not beat themselves very often.

Discipline is a big part of it but it still comes down to talent: Dallas did not have enough of it when it mattered.

The o-line must protect Romo and open up lanes for the RBs. The defense also needs to be more opportunistic and do a better job of creating turnovers.

Garrett is a sitting duck if Jerry sits on his brains and does nothing to improve the o-line. Kiffin may provide more discipline with his scheme but they still need playmakers.

 

[the playmaker]

Three things must happen in order for Garrett to enjoy a successful year:

1. A better o-line.
2. Team health.
3. A playmaking defense.

Those three things take place and Garrett keeps his job.

4. A better GM(not named Jones):laugh2:

 

[Zimmy Lives]

4. A better GM(not named Jones):laugh2:

THAT will never change until Jerry expires.

 

[Doomsday101]

Discipline is a big part of it but it still comes down to talent: Dallas did not have enough of it when it mattered.

The o-line must protect Romo and open up lanes for the RBs. The defense also needs to be more opportunistic and do a better job of creating turnovers.

Garrett is a sitting duck if Jerry sits on his brains and does nothing to improve the o-line. Kiffin may provide more discipline with his scheme but they still need playmakers.

I think to get the most out of talent is to have players be disaplined. It is the unforced mistakes the blowing of assignments that can be changed. I want to see upgrades on the Oline not saying that at all. As for Jerry all I can say is Garrett and Tom Ciskowski play a big role in who we select. Jerry is not just making the picks on his own, I know many love thinking that but fact is many are involved and 2 strong voices in those picks will come from Garrett and Ciskowski

 

[Avenger]

I was listening to a sports radio talk show while I was driving from Houston to Austin and most of the talk was about the Texans ofcourse.

However, they did mention that Jerry is laying the groundwork to dump Garrett by coming out and saying that basically Romo is not being used correctly. That the offense does not take advantage of what he does well and that we are not maximizing the assett we have.

Now the logical conclusion would be if the team goes .500 again, it will not be Romo and his $100 million dollar contract being blamed, it will be Garrett and his "inability to use Romo correctly or come up with an imaginative offense for Romo".

Then Jerry has a legit reason to ditch Garrett, meaning he is not the guy that can create an offense around Romo. Jerry then goes and hires a new HC, presumably with an offensive background, that says he can design an offense around Romo.

Last comment made was if Garrett has not been able to design an offense around Romo in 7 seasons, what makes anybody think he can do it now? And if he can do it now, why was it not done earlier? When you think about it, its kinda a damning comment about Garrett either way which leads some folks to speculate if this is just Jerry laying the groundwork in case he has to ditch Redball.

Do yall agree or disagree?

I hope Garrett does leave the Cowboys... one way or the other. He deserves better than to coach for the worst GM in the league, what's become the worst organization... AND the most ignorant fan base.

I wouldn't wish Garrett's job on my most hated enemy.

 

[khiladi]

I hope Garrett does leave the Cowboys... one way or the other. He deserves better than to coach for the worst GM in the league, what's become the worst organization... AND the most ignorant fan base.

I wouldn't wish Garrett's job on my most hated enemy.

Why does he deserve better? It was the same 'worst GM' that gave him the job, without the necessary qualifications. Jason Garrett actually deserves much less than what he has been given.

Jason owes Jerry big time, not the other way around. I can only laugh when people don't get this reality.

 

[Doomsday101]

Why does he deserve better? It was the same 'worst GM' that gave him the job, without the necessary qualifications. Jason Garrett actually deserves much less than what he has been given.

Jason owes Jerry big time, not the other way around. I can only laugh when people don't get this reality.

He does not deserve more or less. As for his qualification it may not be what you think it should be but then. Funny Jimmy Johnson felt Jason was ready so while Garrett may not meet your standard that means very little.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

He does not deserve more or less. As for his qualification it may not be what you think it should be but then. Funny Jimmy Johnson felt Jason was ready so while Garrett may not meet your standard that means very little.

Jimmy Johnson talked up his old friend?

Next thing you know your gonna tell me Troy Aikman had good things to say about his old friend.

IRRELEVANT.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Why does he deserve better? It was the same 'worst GM' that gave him the job, without the necessary qualifications. Jason Garrett actually deserves much less than what he has been given.

Jason owes Jerry big time, not the other way around. I can only laugh when people don't get this reality.

Exactly.

And as for what someone said about Jimmy... He talked up Wannstedt and Butch Davis and Norv, too. Want them for a HC?

 

[Doomsday101]

Jimmy Johnson talked up his old friend?

Next thing you know your gonna tell me Troy Aikman had good things to say about his old friend.

IRRELEVANT.

So is your opinion based on nothing. IRRELEVANT

When someone says Garrett is not qualified that is their own opinion. Garrett has as much qualification as Dan Reeves had when he 1st became a HC. Does not mean Garrett career will be anything like Reeves but in terms of qualification the fan base is going to say what qualifies someone and what doesn't? You guys think too highly of your own opinion. It would be like asking a dentist his opinion of heart surgery. :laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly.

And as for what someone said about Jimmy... He talked up Wannstedt and Butch Davis and Norv, too. Want them for a HC?

Butch Davis did pretty well as a HC at NC. At least Jimmy opinion has some meaning more so than some armature message board guru :laugh2:

Oh because you have an opinion it means something? Get over yourself

 

[Tabascocat]

When someone says Garrett is not qualified that is their own opinion. Garrett has as much qualification as Dan Reeves had when he 1st became a HC. Does not mean Garrett career will be anything like Reeves but in terms of qualification the fan base is going to say what qualifies someone and what doesn't? You guys think too highly of your own opinion. It would be like asking a dentist his opinion of heart surgery. :laugh2:

Jason may or may not have been qualified to be a HC, I get that. I think he was ready, but not for the Dallas Cowboys. He becomes the HC for the most scrutinized team in sports with all eyes on him and a meddlesome owner. Not a good situation to go into for a first gig.

IMO, his better options would have been for teams like Jax, Clev, etc where he could learn the craft without being questioned at every corner.

Garrett may very well turn out to be a great coach someday, but I don't think it will be there in Dallas.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Butch Davis did pretty well as a HC at NC. At least Jimmy opinion has some meaning more so than some armature message board guru :laugh2:

Oh because you have an opinion it means something? Get over yourself

So if you aren't Jimmy Johnson, your opinion is worthless?

Seems like an odd attitude for a message board moderator to have.

And of course, if I thought Garrett was the greatest, you wouldn't be saying this to me.

 

[Doomsday101]

So if you aren't Jimmy Johnson, your opinion is worthless?

Seems like an odd attitude for a message board moderator to have.

And of course, if I thought Garrett was the greatest, you wouldn't be saying this to me.

No Jimmy has an opinion based on his own professional views and there are things he has said that he disagrees or feels Garrett made a mistake but does so as a professional. Not every comment Jimmy has made about Garrett is glowing praise it is constructive criticism what we get here are no more than mindless attacks by the same people day after day, People here spin things they know nothing about, they take hear say and act as if it is the facts.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

And it was also Jimmy that said that Jason had a 'country club' atmosphere in his lockerroom, but Im sure that will be conveniently glossed over.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jason may or may not have been qualified to be a HC, I get that. I think he was ready, but not for the Dallas Cowboys. He becomes the HC for the most scrutinized team in sports with all eyes on him and a meddlesome owner. Not a good situation to go into for a first gig.

IMO, his better options would have been for teams like Jax, Clev, etc where he could learn the craft without being questioned at every corner.

Garrett may very well turn out to be a great coach someday, but I don't think it will be there in Dallas.

Hard to say, No doubt Dallas job comes with a lot of eyes focused on you and things get magnified more so than other jobs. However it is the job he currently has and I would think just as any HC in the league his staying or leaving all comes down to winning. In his 3rd full season the pressure is on more so than any other time for him to get this team winning football games. I could be wrong but I don't think Jerry will keep him if we have another season without making it to the post season, having said that I don't think Jerry is laying the ground work to dump Garrett as the thread claims. I think Jerry wants nothing but success for Garrett and the Cowboys.