Is Jerry really such a bad GM?

wileedog

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Hostile;2602881 said:
Aw, so the Cardinals should be propped up for failing to realize Davis was a Guard.

Gotcha.

They didn't need a guard, they needed a left tackle, which is why they drafted him.

I think it's scarier that Jones made a $50M gamble that he was.

And before we declare the move genius, keep in mind while he had a good year there last year, this year he was the same inconsistent, often ineffective player that put on a Cardinal uniform every year.

And there has been more than one rumble of moving Davis back out to tackle to replace Flo down the road as well.

Every GM - even Jerry - has hits and misses, we both know that. Jerry's problem is he is such a wildcatter, loves the gamble as much if not more than actual success, and because he pays so much when he misses it hurts twice as bad.

Again, I can give Marion Barber $45M to stay on the team, that's not rocket surgery. There was no other team in the league who was going to come close to those numbers for someone who had spent his career to date as a change-of-pace back and short yardage specialist. And while I think his injury this year was obviously a fluke, we *STILL* don't know if he can handle a full season pounding, and quite frankly IMO we drafted a better every down back in Choice anyway. That's wasted money and cap space IMO, not an example of superior GM capabilities.
 

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wileedog;2602969 said:
They didn't need a guard, they needed a left tackle, which is why they drafted him.

I think it's scarier that Jones made a $50M gamble that he was.

And before we declare the move genius, keep in mind while he had a good year there last year, this year he was the same inconsistent, often ineffective player that put on a Cardinal uniform every year.

And there has been more than one rumble of moving Davis back out to tackle to replace Flo down the road as well.

Every GM - even Jerry - has hits and misses, we both know that. Jerry's problem is he is such a wildcatter, loves the gamble as much if not more than actual success, and because he pays so much when he misses it hurts twice as bad.

Again, I can give Marion Barber $45M to stay on the team, that's not rocket surgery. There was no other team in the league who was going to come close to those numbers for someone who had spent his career to date as a change-of-pace back and short yardage specialist. And while I think his injury this year was obviously a fluke, we *STILL* don't know if he can handle a full season pounding, and quite frankly IMO we drafted a better every down back in Choice anyway. That's wasted money and cap space IMO, not an example of superior GM capabilities.
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Not only is he a terrible GM, he is now the worst active GM in football since the firing of Matt Millen.

Zero playoff wins in the last 13 years despite all the changes made to scheme, players, coaches, etc is that cold, wet slamon that reality is slapping you in the face with.

There is no logical argument in favor of Jerry being anything other than a terrible GM. The pitiful results, the hamstringing of coaches, the circus atmosphere... all of it points to a lousy GM who needed to be fired long ago.
 

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I'm pretty sure that if Jerry had been a GM guy, we would've gone thru at minimum 3 or 4 GMs in the time we won our last SB. I'm pretty sure he would've fired each one after 2 or 3 years of failure, can't fire himself though I guess.
 

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Hostile;2602822 said:
Uh, no I didn't.

Yes you did. Your use of semantics does not change the rules you set forth. You wrote "these are the duties" and proposed your viewpoint was final and encompassing. Well, you conveniently left that out because it does not fit your criteria.

For whatever reason you absolved him of any culpability as to the performance of the coaches HE selected. Sorry, no matter how you try to wiggle around it, many NFL general managers have quite a bit to do with who coaches and how they perform. You don't see it as a "duty", but sorry to say, it is.

If a general manager can get fired for it, it is part of their responsibility. There is a reason you often see the fate of GMs and head coaches tied to each other. And there is a reason you see owners clean the slate and fire both when performance is unacceptable. But that has no chance of occuring when the owner and the general manager are one and the same. The GM in this case has absolute unquestioned authority that will not be challenged. Not even by a head coach.
 
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