Is Jones Capable of being a good Corner?

[plasticman]

I think Byron Jones could be an excellent corner.

Jerry Jones, on the other hand......in my opinion, he would lack sufficient recovery speed......but that's not to say I wouldn't be entertained if I saw him running out there to cover Julio Jones...now THAT Jones could make an interesting corner.

Davey Jones of the Monkees would be too short.....besides, he's dead....

I wish I could find my medication.

 

[xwalker]

Its good question because I don't see Awuzie or Lewis as outside CB. That means Jones almost has to be CB. Physically he can do it but I am not entirely convinced he has mental makeup for position.

Byron Jones is 7/8" taller and weighed 3 pounds less than Awuzie. Why would Awuzie not be an outside CB?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't see the point. You would be taking a college CB and moving him to Safety and moving your current Safety to CB. If they are both on the field either way, then if Awuzie's ball-hawking is on the field either way.

They lose a year plus of Jones learning Safety and then have to teach Awuzie to play Safety. With an already young defensive backfield, that just more they have to learn.

I guess the points is that Im not sure we have a 2nd corner. Awuzie seems more suited for the slot or safety. Lewis seems more suited for the slot. Scandric is smaller and suited for the slot. Woods looks like a promising safety. I like Brown on the outside. With Jones length and speed he might be the best option at corner. Im sure the coaching staff is looking at all of this.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Wish people would leave the posistion placing to coaches. Jones is the biggest reason this team doesnt allow big plays. Because he's always back there in posistion to take away the deep route. Marinelli's defense has never had a S who was a big INT guy. Why? Because the SS primary duty is to stop the run. And the FS primary job is to play center field and prevent anything big. So Jones first job is to help with the deep and force the QB to go underneith primarily in the middle.

Think alot of people really need to study this defense because too many people are trying to think of ways for posistions that just arent there in the scheme.

Are you against having a discussion? This is a chat room.

And you can bet that they coaching staff will be having these same type of discussions if they have not already.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Its good question because I don't see Awuzie or Lewis as outside CB. That means Jones almost has to be CB. Physically he can do it but I am not entirely convinced he has mental makeup for position.

I would question his mean streak as well. I also dont see him as an instinctive ball hawking FS. Which we desperately need.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I just don't get this. He was obliterated by Jordan Reed for what 83 catches and 738 yards? He had a couple of decent games against TEs but he has not been a good safety. The only thing he hasn't done is commit a bonehead play. I swear we've become so used to poor play that when someone is mediocre they are suddenly "good".

I think he was very solid last year. But I dont see the mean, instinctive, ball hawker I would prefer. This is the issue when you draft athlete projects. Will he get there?

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Awuzie and Lewis can each play slot and outside. Jones is a safety. He's developing into a very good safety.

I swear Mayock and Kiper would say Antoine Winfield is too small and is only a slot corner.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Jones was pretty impressive down low focusing on TEs in his first year. Given the state of the TE position in the NFL today that seems like a very important duty, so I wonder if he'll play more down and go back to more of that sort of coverage. TEs have killed this team historically.

I do have to add, why did Will McClay say they couldn't stop Rico in practice against the starters......wouldn't that be Bryon's responsibility?

Just a question for anyone....

 

[xwalker]

I guess the points is that Im not sure we have a 2nd corner. Awuzie seems more suited for the slot or safety. Lewis seems more suited for the slot. Scandric is smaller and suited for the slot. Woods looks like a promising safety. I like Brown on the outside. With Jones length and speed he might be the best option at corner. Im sure the coaching staff is looking at all of this.

I don"t know why you think Awuzie is not an outside CB. He has the required size and speed.

I could see having concerns about Lewis outside due to his size but if he gains a few pounds he'll be the same size as Janoris Jenkins.

 

[ksg811]

I do have to add, why did Will McClay say they couldn't stop Rico in practice against the starters......wouldn't that be Bryon's responsibility?

Just a question for anyone....

Because Rico is 6-5 280 with a huge wingspan and a basketball background. Large man boxing out a guy 4 inches shorter and 80 pounds lighter. I think that's more a testament to Rico's improvement and current skill level than a knock on Byron.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Because Rico is 6-5 280 with a huge wingspan and a basketball background. Large man boxing out a guy 4 inches shorter and 80 pounds lighter. I think that's more a testament to Rico's improvement and current skill level than a knock on Byron.

Ok, but if we are going to give Bryon (our 1st rounder) props for holding TEs, and he can't contain a 6th round guy off our practice squad, no matter who we think Bryon is......that's a problem.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Ok, but if we are going to give Bryon (our 1st rounder) props for holding TEs, and he can't contain a 6th round guy off our practice squad, no matter who we think Bryon is......that's a problem.

Let's see if anybody else can contain the 6th round guy off our practice squad before we throw out the baby with the bathwater. We had an undrafted QB make a lot of first round picks look silly in coverage and in their pass rush before age got the best of him.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Let's see if anybody else can contain the 6th round guy off our practice squad before we throw out the baby with the bathwater. We had an undrafted QB make a lot of first round picks look silly in coverage and in their pass rush before age got the best of him.

Agreed, but it does sound fishy.

Would love to see what McClay and the guys who were there saw though.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I think he was very solid last year. But I dont see the mean, instinctive, ball hawker I would prefer. This is the issue when you draft athlete projects. Will he get there?

Top "ballhawking" safeties

 

[CowboyRoy]

Are they cowboy scouts? Because I doubt Dallas drafted awuzie to play the slot. Lewis might start there but he will be outside soon.

slot and nickel corner are very important positions. As are safeties. Personally, if you have ball hawking, hard hitting safeties patrolling the middle of the field and deep, that is almost more important then good CB play. Nothing wrong with Jones moving to corner. They put him as safety the last two years because we had corners on the roster already.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jenkins weighed 5 more pounds than Lewis. Stop lying to cover up you talking out of your *** lol. And you can add Malcolm Butler to the list of short outside corners as well. He ran 4.62 at his pro day. Do your verbal gymnastics on that one.

Why does it offend you that someone wants to discuss Jones at corner or Awuzie being more of an inside guy? The Cowboys have said over and over again that they like versatile players. That is exactly what Jones was and what a lot of these new secondary guys are. So its a matter of getting your best 3 or 4 guys on the field and moving them into the positions they can excel at best. I could really care less who plays where. They all seem somewhat capable of playing most positions.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Why does it offend you that someone wants to discuss Jones at corner or Awuzie being more of an inside guy? The Cowboys have said over and over again that they like versatile players. That is exactly what Jones was and what a lot of these new secondary guys are. So its a matter of getting your best 3 or 4 guys on the field and moving them into the positions they can excel at best. I could really care less who plays where. They all seem somewhat capable of playing most positions.

I don't thinks it's a good idea for his development to continue to switch his position (Jones) unless it is out of necessity. He's just outside the top ten in his first full year of safety (#16 by plays on passes).

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I hate the myopic way we judge players. You're either an All Pro or you're a JAG.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Byron Jones is 7/8" taller and weighed 3 pounds less than Awuzie. Why would Awuzie not be an outside CB?

I dont think that its not that he cant be an outside guy. It might just be that he is sooo good by the line of scrimmage that he is best utilized at safety or slot.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I just don't get this. He was obliterated by Jordan Reed for what 83 catches and 738 yards? He had a couple of decent games against TEs but he has not been a good safety. The only thing he hasn't done is commit a bonehead play. I swear we've become so used to poor play that when someone is mediocre they are suddenly "good".

I'd say that play against GB was pretty boneheaded