Is Taco a change in philosophy?

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40 times for a DE are about as useful as tits on a boar. Look at his 10 yard split, cone drill, and bench and see how they compares to some pretty good pass rushers.
 

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Myles Garrett is just superhuman. Not a comparison. Also didn't participate in any agility drills so can't compare there.

3 cone
Taco - 7.17
Takk - 7.48
Harris - 4.47

20 yard Shuttle
Taco - 4.39
Takk - 4.62
Harris - 4.42

With Takk, you line him up wider to take advantage of his speed like a LEO.
 

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Taco seems to be the anti Demarcus Ware. Ware had power but his biggest asset was speed and agility.

Tacos game seems to be pure power. That seems to be similar to how the Seahawks approach the DL.

I really expect Taco to be moved to the left DE because of his speed limitations. That doesn't mean he can't be a good end, just not an elite end with speed

Jerry the GM says they drafted him to play right end. If they really believe this does it indicate a departure from what they have previously looked for in a DE?

In my opinion Lawrence is toast after this year and Gregory will never play for the Cowboys again.

We have a hole a LDE. I agree. I think he is the perfect LDE. Without that quick twitch speed, he is primed for the left side where you need a guy good at stopping the run also. I think he has a better shot to be a very good LDE and more of an average RDE. Which we have plenty of.
 

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This. For a dude his size/weight, he's extremely agile and fluid in his movement. He's not some lumbering strong-side defensive end. He has suddenness, and a very nice spin move.

Agreed..........so he can be a GREAT LDE. Not so much on the right side.
 

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With Takk, you line him up wider to take advantage of his speed like a LEO.

I'm with you on that. I preferred Takk to Taco myself. But the notion that Taco is just this big lumbering anchor is false.
 

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Myles Garrett is just superhuman. Not a comparison. Also didn't participate in any agility drills so can't compare there.

3 cone
Taco - 7.17
Takk - 7.48
Harris - 4.47

20 yard Shuttle
Taco - 4.39
Takk - 4.62
Harris - 4.42
I'm pretty sure that 4 should be a 7 on Harris' 3 cone time.
 

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Taco seems to be the anti Demarcus Ware. Ware had power but his biggest asset was speed and agility.

Tacos game seems to be pure power. That seems to be similar to how the Seahawks approach the DL.

I really expect Taco to be moved to the left DE because of his speed limitations. That doesn't mean he can't be a good end, just not an elite end with speed

Jerry the GM says they drafted him to play right end. If they really believe this does it indicate a departure from what they have previously looked for in a DE?
I read that no passer rusher in the nation got to the QB more regularly than Taco on sacks of 2.5 seconds or less.
HE IS QUICK in short space situations--which is what he does.
 

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I think far too many on here are wrong when they say Taco doesn't have the speed/quickness to play RDE. As has been stated over and over, 40 time isn't very relevant. All of his other combine numbers are at the top for the DEs. He's got sufficient quickness AND the power and size to bull rush, edge rush, and play the run. I'm extremely happy with the pick.
 

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I think far too many on here are wrong when they say Taco doesn't have the speed/quickness to play RDE. As has been stated over and over, 40 time isn't very relevant. All of his other combine numbers are at the top for the DEs. He's got sufficient quickness AND the power and size to bull rush, edge rush, and play the run. I'm extremely happy with the pick.

this was already posted and 10 yard split is more relevant than the 40:
10 yard split
Miles Garrett - 1.63
Takk - 1.60
Taco - 1.70

You line Takk up wide at the LEO and it is a race
 

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Taco seems to be the anti Demarcus Ware. Ware had power but his biggest asset was speed and agility.

Tacos game seems to be pure power. That seems to be similar to how the Seahawks approach the DL.

I really expect Taco to be moved to the left DE because of his speed limitations. That doesn't mean he can't be a good end, just not an elite end with speed

Jerry the GM says they drafted him to play right end. If they really believe this does it indicate a departure from what they have previously looked for in a DE?
Terrel Sugs says hello
 

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10 yard split
Miles Garrett - 1.63
Takk - 1.60
Taco - 1.70
Taco 1.63 (Pro Day)

You don't just "line 1 player up wider". The scheme is designed with specific alignments for the DL. They do vary them during a game, but that based on the defensive play call, not on the player.
 

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I hope they are switching from substance abuse risks to guys that they can rely on playing every week.
 

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Taco 1.63 (Pro Day)

You don't just "line 1 player up wider". The scheme is designed with specific alignments for the DL. They do vary them during a game, but that based on the defensive play call, not on the player.

You need speed to play the LEO well, but Taco running the same 10 yard split as Garrett is nice.
Do Pro Day performances offer multiple shots or same as combine?
 

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You need speed to play the LEO well, but Taco running the same 10 yard split as Garrett is nice.
Do Pro Day performances offer multiple shots or same as combine?
Pro Days are 1 shot like the combine.

Marinelli's defense does not really use a "Leo".

If you wanted to draft a DE for his pure speed and athleticism, it would not be Takk McKinley. Rivers or Watt would be much better in measured speed/athleticism.
 

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Pro Days are 1 shot like the combine.

Marinelli's defense does not really use a "Leo".

If you wanted to draft a DE for his pure speed and athleticism, it would not be Takk McKinley. Rivers or Watt would be much better in measured speed/athleticism.

Watt has questionable knees.
Instead of the DB onslaught, I wanted Takk/Taco, Willis and either Rivers or Basham.
 

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Taco seems to be the anti Demarcus Ware. Ware had power but his biggest asset was speed and agility.

Tacos game seems to be pure power. That seems to be similar to how the Seahawks approach the DL.

I really expect Taco to be moved to the left DE because of his speed limitations. That doesn't mean he can't be a good end, just not an elite end with speed

Jerry the GM says they drafted him to play right end. If they really believe this does it indicate a departure from what they have previously looked for in a DE?
I don't think it is a global change to the "planet theory" or something.

They felt they needed a solid base end that can play all downs and not have to rely a bunch of specialists as much. It is okay to have players like Mayowa and so on rotate in, but that is not going to hold up to the run very well and if the snaps aren't managed right, they can get tired.
 

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Joey Bosa ran a 4.86 40 dash.
Taco and D Ware are not at all the same type of player, Ware was an OLB converted to DE who still dropped into coverage and played plenty as a 3-4 OLB.

The QB is 3-7 yards beyond the LOS. 40 times don't mean much..


That's what I said. Lol. Taco isn't anything like Ware.
 
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