Is This Still True?

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Football games are won in the trenches.

If this is true, that protection of the quarterback and creating holes for the running game, or breaking down protection for the opposing quarterback and breaking down running lanes for the opposing offense is what wins games?

If so, where does this team stand?

Not the coach speak, or company line from new coaches and old GMs.

But truthfully if you were looking at this team as an opponent, what is your assessment of the starting fronts on both sides of the ball?

If it is not true, then wherein lies victory, and how does Dallas stack up in that realm?

I am not casting blame for the draft - it is yet to be determines how well this team drafted two years from now - nor using past results to project tomorrow's outcome.

I'd like to see a discussion on this team from a neutral point-of-view about players, their strengths and weaknesses, and the likely outcome due to their meshing as cohesive units.

Vegas is giving odds this cannot be done on this site.

I have hope it can.

What say you about the team?
 

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The NFL seems to think so, as more resources were poured in to the oline in the top dozen picks of the draft than in any other year in history.
 

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TwoDeep3;5071128 said:
Football games are won in the trenches.

If this is true, that protection of the quarterback and creating holes for the running game, or breaking down protection for the opposing quarterback and breaking down running lanes for the opposing offense is what wins games?

If so, where does this team stand?

Not the coach speak, or company line from new coaches and old GMs.

But truthfully if you were looking at this team as an opponent, what is your assessment of the starting fronts on both sides of the ball?

If it is not true, then wherein lies victory, and how does Dallas stack up in that realm?

I am not casting blame for the draft - it is yet to be determines how well this team drafted two years from now - nor using past results to project tomorrow's outcome.

I'd like to see a discussion on this team from a neutral point-of-view about players, their strengths and weaknesses, and the likely outcome due to their meshing as cohesive units.

Vegas is giving odds this cannot be done on this site.

I have hope it can.

What say you about the team?

You at least have to have an average offensive line.

We had one good player and 4 that need to be upgraded.

So far in free agency and the draft we have picked up one potential replacement.

That folks, does not cut the mustard !!!
 

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TwoDeep3;5071128 said:
Football games are won in the trenches.

If this is true, that protection of the quarterback and creating holes for the running game, or breaking down protection for the opposing quarterback and breaking down running lanes for the opposing offense is what wins games?

If so, where does this team stand?

Not the coach speak, or company line from new coaches and old GMs.

But truthfully if you were looking at this team as an opponent, what is your assessment of the starting fronts on both sides of the ball?

If it is not true, then wherein lies victory, and how does Dallas stack up in that realm?

I am not casting blame for the draft - it is yet to be determines how well this team drafted two years from now - nor using past results to project tomorrow's outcome.

I'd like to see a discussion on this team from a neutral point-of-view about players, their strengths and weaknesses, and the likely outcome due to their meshing as cohesive units.

Vegas is giving odds this cannot be done on this site.

I have hope it can.

What say you about the team?
The starting DL is very good if healthy. They appear to have multiple options at backup DT and backup Strong-Side DE. Not sure about Weak-Side DE backup.

On the OLine, they have the possibility to be much better than last year. They just ran out of options last year with all of the injuries. With Costa returning and adding Frederick, the interior OL should be much better. Leary has a good chance to replace one of the Guards. On the outside, I believe that if given a chance that Parnell could be much better than Free.

Summary:
It all comes down to health. If healthy they are better on both the DL an OL than last year.

I like the fact that they are going with more young backups and not as many has-been veterans as they did in past years.
 

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winning is the only thing we see as the truth , whether you cheat or copy, thats what sets the rest of the league to be a copy cat league and everyone else is not being innovative but just hoping something works and will credit anything from guys in the locker room inspiring other guys, to guys wearing the same socks or working hard. NEver is the lucky bounce credited with a victory or an accidently interception which swings the game in the other direction.

Winning is the only constant and truth. How you do it is debatable.
 

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xwalker;5071189 said:
The starting DL is very good if healthy. They appear to have multiple options at backup DT and backup Strong-Side DE. Not sure about Weak-Side DE backup.

On the OLine, they have the possibility to be much better than last year. They just ran out of options last year with all of the injuries. With Costa returning and adding Frederick, the interior OL should be much better. Leary has a good chance to replace one of the Guards. On the outside, I believe that if given a chance that Parnell could be much better than Free.

Summary:
It all comes down to health. If healthy they are better on both the DL an OL than last year.

I like the fact that they are going with more young backups and not as many has-been veterans as they did in past years.

any O line that depends on Costa and Free is doomed
 

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TwoDeep3;5071128 said:
Football games are won in the trenches.

If this is true, that protection of the quarterback and creating holes for the running game, or breaking down protection for the opposing quarterback and breaking down running lanes for the opposing offense is what wins games?

If so, where does this team stand?

Not the coach speak, or company line from new coaches and old GMs.

But truthfully if you were looking at this team as an opponent, what is your assessment of the starting fronts on both sides of the ball?

If it is not true, then wherein lies victory, and how does Dallas stack up in that realm?

I am not casting blame for the draft - it is yet to be determines how well this team drafted two years from now - nor using past results to project tomorrow's outcome.

I'd like to see a discussion on this team from a neutral point-of-view about players, their strengths and weaknesses, and the likely outcome due to their meshing as cohesive units.

Vegas is giving odds this cannot be done on this site.

I have hope it can.

What say you about the team?

Jerry thinks they are half second away from being prolific. After selecting C in 1st round he said the Center just needs to give Romo and extra half second. He really thinks the team is that close.
 

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We're going to have to sign a Right Tackle and get lucky in the interior in order to have a quality O-Line this year.
 

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Frederick can play guard as well. In fact, most of his college career was at guard.
 

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xwalker;5071189 said:
The starting DL is very good if healthy. They appear to have multiple options at backup DT and backup Strong-Side DE. Not sure about Weak-Side DE backup.

On the OLine, they have the possibility to be much better than last year. They just ran out of options last year with all of the injuries. With Costa returning and adding Frederick, the interior OL should be much better. Leary has a good chance to replace one of the Guards. On the outside, I believe that if given a chance that Parnell could be much better than Free.

Summary:
It all comes down to health. If healthy they are better on both the DL an OL than last year.

I like the fact that they are going with more young backups and not as many has-been veterans as they did in past years.

you might be suffering from Jerry type delusion on both sides of the ball.
 

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burmafrd;5071203 said:
any O line that depends on Costa and Free is doomed
I don't understand why Cook does not get the same hate as Costa. Well actually I do understand, but I think it is off base.

Cook was a terrible run blocker. He does not get the hate that Costa does because his pass-blocking was decent and he didn't have problems with the snap. Problems with run-blocking are not obvious to the casual fan that watches the game in real-time (no review); whereas, it is very obvious when a pass-block fails or a bad snap is made.

Ultimately, Costa should be a backup; however, he is a better player than either Cook or Free.
 

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CowboyGil;5071215 said:
Frederick can play guard as well. In fact, most of his college career was at guard.

if he plays guard..he will be slowest guard in the league. He will sink or swim at Center.
 

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Wood;5071216 said:
you might be suffering from Jerry type delusion on both sides of the ball.

This.

It's unbelievable to me that the Cowboys are counting on Ratliff to be a key starter on a line. We are talking about a guy who's play has be declining for half of decade. For example, look at his sacks:

2008: 7.5
2009: 6.0
2010: 3.5
2011: 2.0
2012: 0.0

Other than a one year blip in 2011, his tackles have declined as well.

Of course now that Jay Ratliff is another year old and another year wiser it's totally realistic for his numbers to jump back up to his 2008 levels... right? ;)

These are the kinds of "hopes" the strength of the DL is pinned on.
 

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xwalker;5071217 said:
I don't understand why Cook does not get the same hate as Costa. Well actually I do understand, but I think it is off base.

Cook was a terrible run blocker. He does not get the hate that Costa does because his pass-blocking was decent and he didn't have problems with the snap. Problems with run-blocking are not obvious to the casual fan that watches the game in real-time (no review); whereas, it is very obvious when a pass-block fails or a bad snap is made.

Ultimately, Costa should be a backup; however, he is a better player than either Cook or Free.

It is really pretty simple IMO.

Costa was penciled in to be the starter from day one last year. Cook was brought in for a 7th rounder once costa went down. He was something that was not thought of until the injury.

Also doubt in anyone thinks there is a chance that cook could be the starting C this year...some people do think that Costa could be the starting center still with Frederick moving to OG.
 

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perrykemp;5071224 said:
This.

It's unbelievable to me that the Cowboys are counting on Ratliff to be a key starter on a line. We are talking about a guy who's play has be declining for half of decade. For example, look at his sacks:

2008: 7.5
2009: 6.0
2010: 3.5
2011: 2.0
2012: 0.0

Other than a one year blip in 2011, his tackles have declined as well.

Of course now that Jay Ratliff is another year old and another year wiser it's totally realistic for his numbers to jump back up to his 2008 levels... right? ;)

These are the kinds of "hopes" the strength of the DL is pinned on.

Well he will be changing positions, coordinators yet again and also be asked to have 1 main responsibility vs 2-3.

So yeah I expect his sack numbers and tackle numbers will definitely rise from 2011 & 2012.
 

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I believe if you can't win your matchups upfront, you can't consistently win in the NFL. Without the ability to clear space in the running game and pick up blitzes offensively, and to hold the point/penetrate upfield against the run, and collapse the pocket on the pass rush, a coordinator has to resort to too much gimmickry to gain an edge. This can result in as much confusion for your own players as for the opposition.

As far as the Cowboys are concerned, here's how I would rate their players in that regard:

KEY
Blue Chip - top level talent - can start for most teams
Red Chip - solid player - can start for other teams
Yellow Chip - average player - best served as a backup
Cow Chip - self explanatory :D

OFFENSIVE LINE
Tyron Smith - a blue chip player. Struggled at times on the left side, but is scheme diverse (can play well in both a man-power and zone-blocking scheme), and has tons of upside. Needs to improve in his handling of inside counter moves.

Nate Livings - a red chip player, if healthy. When he was healthy last season, he was solid and workman like. A poor foot athlete, he does a good job of keeping himself between the DL he's blocking and the QB, but he has a hard time with laterally quick linemen. Down the stretch last season, he really struggled with blitz recognition and moving laterally. As he is over 30, I don’t expect him to get healthier. A candidate to be replaced after this year.

Phil Costa – a yellow chip. For one game last year, against the Ravens, he played well. Due to both back and leg injuries, he couldn’t hold up physically to get a real gauge as to his progress overall. He has built in limitations with his short arms, and an inability to effectively reach block. When he gets his hands on a player, he can steer them around. Costa is a try hard guy who maximizes his ability, but is one that you will always look to replace.

Mackenzy Bernadeau – a yellow chip. Bernadeau was hurt in camp, and never seemed to find his stride as a player. A better foot athlete than Livings, he struggled with lateral quickness as well, and seemed to have at least one block per game where he did not react to a counter, and allowed a free rusher at Romo. Bernadeau needs to commit to getting himself in better condition (he has quite the roll around his waist). He can compete for a role on the team, and would be best served as a multi-positional backup (both guard slots and center) rather than start.

Doug Free – a yellow chip at best. Free has been in a freefall (no pun intended) for the last two seasons once he was determined to have poor grip strength. Unless his technique is perfect, he will get walked back to the QB or beaten to either side. His strength deficiency is more of an issue at RT than LT. His lateral quickness aids him in stretch blocking in the running game, but he cannot consistently drive block opposing linemen, and has lost his confidence in blocking in the passing game. The fact that he was benched a year ago tells you all you need to know. Needs to be replaced immediately.

Jermey Parnell – a yellow chip. Parnell physically looks the part of an athletic tackle option, but needs to improve his lower body strength. When he locks out a defender, he can win a matchup against anyone. He struggles to generate movement in the run game in short yardage situations (see opening game against the Giants). With some growth this offseason, could progress to a red chip.

Ryan Cook – a cow chip. Decent positional blocker against the pass, but has no base strength due to his height, and is a complete liability in the running game. Positional flexibility is the only thing that would save him, but the addition of Travis Frederick and the hoped for growth from Ronald Leary and Jermey Parnell will likely result in his cut from the roster.

David Arkin – to this point, a cow chip. Lacks the anchor and base strength to hold up inside. The jump in competition for him was known to be a big hurdle, but his lack of functional strength plagued his in his ability to play and be active on the roster. Unless he had a miraculous transformation of his body this offseason, he will be another person in the cut line.

Ronald Leary – at this time, at best, a yellow chip. Leary has the base strength and anchor to play, but was clueless in the preseason in handling twists and recognizing blitzes. Hopefully his year of seasoning improved his recognition skills, as without those, he has little chance for success.

Travis Frederick – at this time, unproven, but likely a red chip. Frederick is well schooled, and a true power player. Position flexible and a player who will slug it out and win most of his battles. Forget the 40 time – he can make all of the necessary blocks at both guard and center. He will be an upgrade to either position that he starts at.

OVERALL – a mishmash of skills and players. The positions were put together seemingly without a lot of consideration for the complementary skills of the players (Free and Smith more mobile types, Livings and Bernadeau plodders). They operate at a significant talent disadvantage to any team with a good defensive front. Frederick will help, but the team needs significant upgrades at RG and RT, and seem to be banking on Costa and Parnell improving significantly this offseason. With Costa’s back issue as well as his physical limitations, this could be a mistake.

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DeMarcus Ware – a blue chip player. Ware is a premier pass rusher who is underrated against the run. The scheme change, though, introduces an issue and challenge for Ware. Playing on his feet gave him the ability to play more with his hands in the run game, and fend off TEs crashing down on him. He will have to be even more stout now holding up in the run game. Coming off of the injuries that he was plagued with down the stretch, it will be interesting to see how his overall play is late in the season.

Jason Hatcher – a red chip player. Hatcher was the best DL on the team a season ago, finally putting it all together as a five technique. Hatcher is a solid interior pass rusher, and improved against the run. Playing as a 3T will be a benefit to him with the 1 on 1 matchups, but he would be miscast as a 1T, as he has a tendency to play high against the run. A solid player who should play well as a 3T.

Jay Ratliff – a yellow chip. Ratliff has been a declining player for a couple of seasons. He still has his initial quickness, but has been injury plagued (hernia, back problems), and less effective as a player. The years of pounding that he took as an undersized 3-4 nose may have finally caught up with him. While the Kiffin 4-3 is tailor made for his ability, we may be remembering him more for his past than his present. May need to start as the 1T, as there is not a current Cowboy player with any skins on the wall capable of playing the position as a starter.

Anthony Spencer – as a DE, he is a red chip. As a LB, he’s a blue chip. Spencer parlayed his best season as a Cowboy into a second consecutive franchise tag. Spencer is a jack of all trades, and a master of most, capable of setting the edge in the running game as a LB, solid in playing over the TE, and finally finishing off sacks in the passing game. As a DE, he will face a much bigger challenge in holding the point and generating a pass rush. I feel he will lose some of his effectiveness in this role, and would be best suited starting at SLB in this defense, moving to a rush position on passing downs.

Sean Lissemore – a yellow chip. Lissemore is a try hard guy who understands leverage, and flashes pass rush skill, but he majorly regressed in 2012. Lissemore did not hold up well in the run game, and needs to step up his game. He could play the 1T, but seemed to be worse the longer that he was on the field. He is one of two players who need to take a step forward in terms of production for this scheme to work properly.

Tyrone Crawford – at this time, a yellow chip. Crawford flashed the ability to collapse the pocket as a 5T, and was generally solid. The question becomes where does he play. Is he better suited as a 3T inside, or as a 7T as a base LE? I believe that he is best suited as a 7T, where he can use his hand strength and leverage to be a strong end in the running game. I have a feeling that the team will use him as a 3T. Either way, he is the second player who needs to take a major step forward in production, as the team is aging upfront and needs to provide quality snaps in reserve.

Kyle Wilber – at this time, a yellow chip at best. Wilber was injured most of last season, and was generally a non-producer. Now, the Cowboys are asking him to move from LB to DE. While Wilber has the frame to add some weight, his play is not suited to being an end with his hand in the dirt. He is not a strong run player, and is more of a rangy type with the quickness to rush the passer. He is not a great scheme fit for Kiffin’s defense, and I can easily see him not making the team. He will need to greatly improve his strength in order to stick.

Ikponmwosa Igbinosun – at this time, an unknown. A late add last year to the practice squad from the Steelers, Igbinosun is a young player who was a developmental prospect as a 5T. How he fits into Kiffin’s defense is anyone’s guess. Will he be a 7T along the lines of a Chidi Ahanotu, or will he be a candidate as a 3T? To expect much from him would be a stretch, but the Cowboys like his potential.

Brian Price – a yellow chip. Price comes with some decoration – a former second rounder with the Buccaneers who logged some starts in the league. Price has battled personal issues and major physical issues with his hamstrings, and has been out of football for a year. When he came from UCLA, Price was a solid 1T candidate when drafted by Tampa, with the ability to hold up against the run and to push the pocket. This could be his last shot in the NFL, so the Cowboys will get his best effort. The question is, after the hamstring reattachment surgery, how much does he have left? The Cowboys cannot expect much from him, but he could be a vitally important cog to the scheme change.

OVERALL – to the degree that the offensive line is a weakness, the Jones’ are correct – the defensive line is a strength. They have solid players across all four starting positions. The questions come with regards to age, health, the reserve players and the ability to hold up against the run. Without major improvement in play from the likes of Lissemore, Crawford and either Wilber or Price, the starters run the real risk of being worn down by the final stretch of the season. This position is a bit of a question mark, but not nearly as much as the OL.
 

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Wood;5071221 said:
if he plays guard..he will be slowest guard in the league. He will sink or swim at Center.

Not within 10 yards or moving side to side he won't.

Evaluating OG based on 40 times......

5 stars has a take on this.
 

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Plankton;5071350 said:
I believe if you can't win your matchups upfront, you can't consistently win in the NFL. Without the ability to clear space in the running game and pick up blitzes offensively, and to hold the point/penetrate upfield against the run, and collapse the pocket on the pass rush, a coordinator has to resort to too much gimmickry to gain an edge. This can result in as much confusion for your own players as for the opposition.

As far as the Cowboys are concerned, here's how I would rate their players in that regard:

KEY
Blue Chip - top level talent - can start for most teams
Red Chip - solid player - can start for other teams
Yellow Chip - average player - best served as a backup
Cow Chip - self explanatory :D

OFFENSIVE LINE
Tyron Smith - a blue chip player. Struggled at times on the left side, but is scheme diverse (can play well in both a man-power and zone-blocking scheme), and has tons of upside. Needs to improve in his handling of inside counter moves.

Nate Livings - a red chip player, if healthy. When he was healthy last season, he was solid and workman like. A poor foot athlete, he does a good job of keeping himself between the DL he's blocking and the QB, but he has a hard time with laterally quick linemen. Down the stretch last season, he really struggled with blitz recognition and moving laterally. As he is over 30, I don’t expect him to get healthier. A candidate to be replaced after this year.

Phil Costa – a yellow chip. For one game last year, against the Ravens, he played well. Due to both back and leg injuries, he couldn’t hold up physically to get a real gauge as to his progress overall. He has built in limitations with his short arms, and an inability to effectively reach block. When he gets his hands on a player, he can steer them around. Costa is a try hard guy who maximizes his ability, but is one that you will always look to replace.

Mackenzy Bernadeau – a yellow chip. Bernadeau was hurt in camp, and never seemed to find his stride as a player. A better foot athlete than Livings, he struggled with lateral quickness as well, and seemed to have at least one block per game where he did not react to a counter, and allowed a free rusher at Romo. Bernadeau needs to commit to getting himself in better condition (he has quite the roll around his waist). He can compete for a role on the team, and would be best served as a multi-positional backup (both guard slots and center) rather than start.

Doug Free – a yellow chip at best. Free has been in a freefall (no pun intended) for the last two seasons once he was determined to have poor grip strength. Unless his technique is perfect, he will get walked back to the QB or beaten to either side. His strength deficiency is more of an issue at RT than LT. His lateral quickness aids him in stretch blocking in the running game, but he cannot consistently drive block opposing linemen, and has lost his confidence in blocking in the passing game. The fact that he was benched a year ago tells you all you need to know. Needs to be replaced immediately.

Jermey Parnell – a yellow chip. Parnell physically looks the part of an athletic tackle option, but needs to improve his lower body strength. When he locks out a defender, he can win a matchup against anyone. He struggles to generate movement in the run game in short yardage situations (see opening game against the Giants). With some growth this offseason, could progress to a red chip.

Ryan Cook – a cow chip. Decent positional blocker against the pass, but has no base strength due to his height, and is a complete liability in the running game. Positional flexibility is the only thing that would save him, but the addition of Travis Frederick and the hoped for growth from Ronald Leary and Jermey Parnell will likely result in his cut from the roster.

David Arkin – to this point, a cow chip. Lacks the anchor and base strength to hold up inside. The jump in competition for him was known to be a big hurdle, but his lack of functional strength plagued his in his ability to play and be active on the roster. Unless he had a miraculous transformation of his body this offseason, he will be another person in the cut line.

Ronald Leary – at this time, at best, a yellow chip. Leary has the base strength and anchor to play, but was clueless in the preseason in handling twists and recognizing blitzes. Hopefully his year of seasoning improved his recognition skills, as without those, he has little chance for success.

Travis Frederick – at this time, unproven, but likely a red chip. Frederick is well schooled, and a true power player. Position flexible and a player who will slug it out and win most of his battles. Forget the 40 time – he can make all of the necessary blocks at both guard and center. He will be an upgrade to either position that he starts at.

OVERALL – a mishmash of skills and players. The positions were put together seemingly without a lot of consideration for the complementary skills of the players (Free and Smith more mobile types, Livings and Bernadeau plodders). They operate at a significant talent disadvantage to any team with a good defensive front. Frederick will help, but the team needs significant upgrades at RG and RT, and seem to be banking on Costa and Parnell improving significantly this offseason. With Costa’s back issue as well as his physical limitations, this could be a mistake.

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DeMarcus Ware – a blue chip player. Ware is a premier pass rusher who is underrated against the run. The scheme change, though, introduces an issue and challenge for Ware. Playing on his feet gave him the ability to play more with his hands in the run game, and fend off TEs crashing down on him. He will have to be even more stout now holding up in the run game. Coming off of the injuries that he was plagued with down the stretch, it will be interesting to see how his overall play is late in the season.

Jason Hatcher – a red chip player. Hatcher was the best DL on the team a season ago, finally putting it all together as a five technique. Hatcher is a solid interior pass rusher, and improved against the run. Playing as a 3T will be a benefit to him with the 1 on 1 matchups, but he would be miscast as a 1T, as he has a tendency to play high against the run. A solid player who should play well as a 3T.

Jay Ratliff – a yellow chip. Ratliff has been a declining player for a couple of seasons. He still has his initial quickness, but has been injury plagued (hernia, back problems), and less effective as a player. The years of pounding that he took as an undersized 3-4 nose may have finally caught up with him. While the Kiffin 4-3 is tailor made for his ability, we may be remembering him more for his past than his present. May need to start as the 1T, as there is not a current Cowboy player with any skins on the wall capable of playing the position as a starter.

Anthony Spencer – as a DE, he is a red chip. As a LB, he’s a blue chip. Spencer parlayed his best season as a Cowboy into a second consecutive franchise tag. Spencer is a jack of all trades, and a master of most, capable of setting the edge in the running game as a LB, solid in playing over the TE, and finally finishing off sacks in the passing game. As a DE, he will face a much bigger challenge in holding the point and generating a pass rush. I feel he will lose some of his effectiveness in this role, and would be best suited starting at SLB in this defense, moving to a rush position on passing downs.

Sean Lissemore – a yellow chip. Lissemore is a try hard guy who understands leverage, and flashes pass rush skill, but he majorly regressed in 2012. Lissemore did not hold up well in the run game, and needs to step up his game. He could play the 1T, but seemed to be worse the longer that he was on the field. He is one of two players who need to take a step forward in terms of production for this scheme to work properly.

Tyrone Crawford – at this time, a yellow chip. Crawford flashed the ability to collapse the pocket as a 5T, and was generally solid. The question becomes where does he play. Is he better suited as a 3T inside, or as a 7T as a base LE? I believe that he is best suited as a 7T, where he can use his hand strength and leverage to be a strong end in the running game. I have a feeling that the team will use him as a 3T. Either way, he is the second player who needs to take a major step forward in production, as the team is aging upfront and needs to provide quality snaps in reserve.

Kyle Wilber – at this time, a yellow chip at best. Wilber was injured most of last season, and was generally a non-producer. Now, the Cowboys are asking him to move from LB to DE. While Wilber has the frame to add some weight, his play is not suited to being an end with his hand in the dirt. He is not a strong run player, and is more of a rangy type with the quickness to rush the passer. He is not a great scheme fit for Kiffin’s defense, and I can easily see him not making the team. He will need to greatly improve his strength in order to stick.

Ikponmwosa Igbinosun – at this time, an unknown. A late add last year to the practice squad from the Steelers, Igbinosun is a young player who was a developmental prospect as a 5T. How he fits into Kiffin’s defense is anyone’s guess. Will he be a 7T along the lines of a Chidi Ahanotu, or will he be a candidate as a 3T? To expect much from him would be a stretch, but the Cowboys like his potential.

Brian Price – a yellow chip. Price comes with some decoration – a former second rounder with the Buccaneers who logged some starts in the league. Price has battled personal issues and major physical issues with his hamstrings, and has been out of football for a year. When he came from UCLA, Price was a solid 1T candidate when drafted by Tampa, with the ability to hold up against the run and to push the pocket. This could be his last shot in the NFL, so the Cowboys will get his best effort. The question is, after the hamstring reattachment surgery, how much does he have left? The Cowboys cannot expect much from him, but he could be a vitally important cog to the scheme change.

OVERALL – to the degree that the offensive line is a weakness, the Jones’ are correct – the defensive line is a strength. They have solid players across all four starting positions. The questions come with regards to age, health, the reserve players and the ability to hold up against the run. Without major improvement in play from the likes of Lissemore, Crawford and either Wilber or Price, the starters run the real risk of being worn down by the final stretch of the season. This position is a bit of a question mark, but not nearly as much as the OL.

That was awesome.

Maybe the best answer I have ever seen on a message board to a question.

Great job.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;5071369 said:
Not within 10 yards or moving side to side he won't.

Evaluating OG based on 40 times......

5 stars has a take on this.

More likely he has a smilie for this.
 
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