Is Wade's job really at stake over the next month?

[RainMan]

Before you kill your keyboard hitting the letters y, e and s repeatedly, please really consider the way I'm phrasing this question. Maybe it's just me, but this has been a topic that's been ringing in my head of late, and I seem to be drawing a different conclusion than I once did.

Wade's record is, what, 30-13 here? Yeah, yeah. No playoff wins, and that's all that matters, which is why this December-through-January run is so important. I get that. But it's not as if hiring a new coach simply cures all that ails us. It didn't when we fired Switzer, Gailey or anyone else. How confident are we that Jerry will hire a sure-fire replacement? Does such a guy even exist?

Anyway, before I veer off track, back to my question: Looking at what Wade is doing, he seems to be succeeding fairly well in his various tasks. We're a team that wins regular season games, seem to be headed in the right direction, and his baby (the defense) is playing at its absolute best -- heck, we even lead the league in sacks over his tenure. Who would have thunk that possible when Parcells was here?

Wade is an easy target, and I've certainly aimed plenty of venom his way. But I can't help but wonder if he's not the best guy for the job right now. Do we really want to overhaul the defense? Do we really want to bring in a new head coach who might want to implement a zone-blocking offensive line scheme, change to a west coast offense or do something else radical? Do we want or need an overhaul? Most importantly, will Jerry even concede such power?

It's been said Wade is basically our head defensive coach and Garrett the head offensive coach. What other qualified guy is going to come in and accept such a role? And the Shannahans and Holmgrens might be off the market sooner than expected -- and I'm STILL not convinced a retread is the right option anyway.

Just curious what the general consensus is as we enter this stretch run. Does nothing matter other than what occurs in the playoffs if/when we get there? Or has Wade done enough good to suggest that, even for his goofiness, he might not be such a bad fit, December be damned?

I'll concede that I'm still in the wait-and-see mode. I don't want to be fooled by 8-3, only to be spat in the face by a December swoon. But I must admit: I'm starting to lean farther and farther away from the "Lynch Wade if we suck in December!!" crowd than I ever thought I would.

 

[Hoofbite]

I think so. Jerry's got Red line up and Wade still hasn't gotten Dallas over the playoff hump yet.

 

[davidb257]

If we switch up coach's I don't think we win an SB in the Romo era. You don't fix things by switching coach's with a record like his, you allow them to keep trying.

 

[Zaxor]

If we switch up coach's I don't think we win an SB in the Romo era. You don't fix things by switching coach's with a record like his, you allow them to keep trying.

I agree the more reps these guys get doing something the better they will be

 

[SuspectCorner]

I think Wade has proven he can coach up a defense. And Dallas has been a cumulative (regular season) 30-13 in the Phillips Era and appear to be headed for their second NFC East Championship in three years.

But let's fire him and promote Red Jesus (AKA: 'He Who Coacheth the Underperforming Side of the Ball').

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Before you kill your keyboard hitting the letters y, e and s repeatedly, please really consider the way I'm phrasing this question. Maybe it's just me, but this has been a topic that's been ringing in my head of late, and I seem to be drawing a different conclusion than I once did.

Wade's record is, what, 30-13 here? Yeah, yeah. No playoff wins, and that's all that matters, which is why this December-through-January run is so important. I get that. But it's not as if hiring a new coach simply cures all that ails us. It didn't when we fired Switzer, Gailey or anyone else. How confident are we that Jerry will hire a sure-fire replacement? Does such a guy even exist?

Anyway, before I veer off track, back to my question: Looking at what Wade is doing, he seems to be succeeding fairly well in his various tasks. We're a team that wins regular season games, seem to be headed in the right direction, and his baby (the defense) is playing at its absolute best -- heck, we even lead the league in sacks over his tenure. Who would have thunk that possible when Parcells was here?

Wade is an easy target, and I've certainly aimed plenty of venom his way. But I can't help but wonder if he's not the best guy for the job right now. Do we really want to overhaul the defense? Do we really want to bring in a new head coach who might want to implement a zone-blocking offensive line scheme, change to a west coast offense or do something else radical? Do we want or need an overhaul? Most importantly, will Jerry even concede such power?

It's been said Wade is basically our head defensive coach and Garrett the head offensive coach. What other qualified guy is going to come in and accept such a role? And the Shannahans and Holmgrens might be off the market sooner than expected -- and I'm STILL not convinced a retread is the right option anyway.

Just curious what the general consensus is as we enter this stretch run. Does nothing matter other than what occurs in the playoffs if/when we get there? Or has Wade done enough good to suggest that, even for his goofiness, he might not be such a bad fit, December be damned?

I'll concede that I'm still in the wait-and-see mode. I don't want to be fooled by 8-3, only to be spat in the face by a December swoon. But I must admit: I'm starting to lean farther and farther away from the "Lynch Wade if we suck in December!!" crowd than I ever thought I would.

I have a couple of problems with your post but I also agree with some of it. A new coach won't = SB no matter how many people think it will. WP is a problem JG is a problem. The mentality at the ranch is a problem and Jerry Jones is a problem. So until JJ steps down from GM I doubt this ship will get righted anytime soon. Also for all the props you're giving Wade it doesn't matter. It would be a valid point if this was the eagles or some other ho dunk franchise that hasn't established a culture of winning in the NFL. Super bowls are what matter here the team could be undefeated each year with 300 sacks each season if they not winning superbowl it's a failure. Regular season record all these accolades are meaningless if you're not winning when it counts.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Before the season started I said that we had to go to the NFCCG for Wade to keep his job. I am thinking that a single playoff win will probably do it now.

Seriously fellas, a 30-13 record over 3 seasons with 2 Division Titles is pretty dam good stats for a coach. Considering that we never won the division the 4 years Parcells was here, I would say Wade has done a dam good job. Also consider that over that 3 year span we have led the league in sacks.

Edit.....I am already assuming we are going to win the division this year.

 

[rwatkins76]

Before you kill your keyboard hitting the letters y, e and s repeatedly, please really consider the way I'm phrasing this question. Maybe it's just me, but this has been a topic that's been ringing in my head of late, and I seem to be drawing a different conclusion than I once did.

Wade's record is, what, 30-13 here? Yeah, yeah. No playoff wins, and that's all that matters, which is why this December-through-January run is so important. I get that. But it's not as if hiring a new coach simply cures all that ails us. It didn't when we fired Switzer, Gailey or anyone else. How confident are we that Jerry will hire a sure-fire replacement? Does such a guy even exist?

Anyway, before I veer off track, back to my question: Looking at what Wade is doing, he seems to be succeeding fairly well in his various tasks. We're a team that wins regular season games, seem to be headed in the right direction, and his baby (the defense) is playing at its absolute best -- heck, we even lead the league in sacks over his tenure. Who would have thunk that possible when Parcells was here?

Wade is an easy target, and I've certainly aimed plenty of venom his way. But I can't help but wonder if he's not the best guy for the job right now. Do we really want to overhaul the defense? Do we really want to bring in a new head coach who might want to implement a zone-blocking offensive line scheme, change to a west coast offense or do something else radical? Do we want or need an overhaul? Most importantly, will Jerry even concede such power?

It's been said Wade is basically our head defensive coach and Garrett the head offensive coach. What other qualified guy is going to come in and accept such a role? And the Shannahans and Holmgrens might be off the market sooner than expected -- and I'm STILL not convinced a retread is the right option anyway.

Just curious what the general consensus is as we enter this stretch run. Does nothing matter other than what occurs in the playoffs if/when we get there? Or has Wade done enough good to suggest that, even for his goofiness, he might not be such a bad fit, December be damned?

I'll concede that I'm still in the wait-and-see mode. I don't want to be fooled by 8-3, only to be spat in the face by a December swoon. But I must admit: I'm starting to lean farther and farther away from the "Lynch Wade if we suck in December!!" crowd than I ever thought I would.

Yep, the only way to win a payoff game is to have a winning regular season; 9+ wins. The more chances you get to go to the payoffs, the more chances you have to win a Super Bowl. Keep Wade, you cannot argue the success he has had in the regular season.

 

[Sarge]

Wade has proven he can be a very effective DC. But, as a HC he has failed on multiple occasions to have this team ready for big games and they have had multiple let down games under him as well. That is why this team (for me) drives me crazy. I believe they are capable of doing so much better.

 

[Hypnotoad]

If we switch up coach's I don't think we win an SB in the Romo era. You don't fix things by switching coach's with a record like his, you allow them to keep trying.

This is true. We will be in another 2 years of rebuild and Dallas will be an unattractive place for coaches because even going 30-13 you get fired.

 

[TD-33]

Garrett is the next HC. I doubt he would be willing to wait through a lengthy Wade contract extension. My worry is; when Garrett takes the reins, what kind of drop-off will the defense have once Wade leaves since all those guys bought into his system and obviously they like Wade.

 

[JonJon]

The only way I see Wade getting replaced is if the Cowboys somehow miss the playoffs or don't get a playoff victory. If the Cowboys make the playoffs and get at least one win, I think he comes back.

 

[windward]

Barring a collapse Wade will return in 2010

 

[dbair1967]

If we switch up coach's I don't think we win an SB in the Romo era. You don't fix things by switching coach's with a record like his, you allow them to keep trying.

Well, Tampa did do a similar thing in 2002, they dumped Tony Dungy and replaced him with Jon Gruden, and won a super bowl that first year.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If the team flops in December again or is one and done in the postseason, its time for a change. Wade's a nice guy and a good defensive coach, but ultimately its about the postseason.

 

[dbair1967]

Wade has proven he can be a very effective DC. But, as a HC he has failed on multiple occasions to have this team ready for big games and they have had multiple let down games under him as well. That is why this team (for me) drives me crazy. I believe they are capable of doing so much better.

Yep, agree 100% Sarge.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

I'm starting to think Wade will be back.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The problem is of the 13 losses he was massively outcoached in a probably half of them.

Come playoff time. One loss is bigger than any low number of regular season losses.

 

[Nightshade]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If the team flops in December again or is one and done in the postseason, its time for a change. Wade's a nice guy and a good defensive coach, but ultimately its about the postseason.

I agree with most of this. Except for one main thing. He's not just a "good" defensive coach. He's a freaking "OUTSTANDING" defensive coach. He consistently has his defenses in the top 5 of the league. He did it at San Diego and now here. Look at the HUGE difference he's made over Brian Stewart with virtually the same personel and coaches. The changes that were made in personel were changes that Wade instigated and now the Cowboys have arguably a top 5 defense. Why would Jerry risk that D to promote a struggling "RED"?

Defense wins Championships. That's why I can't see Jerry getting rid of Wade. Unless there is a complete collapse in the next month.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I agree with most of this. Except for one main thing. He's not just a "good" defensive coach. He's a freaking "OUTSTANDING" defensive coach. He consistently has his defenses in the top 5 of the league. He did it at San Diego and now here. Look at the HUGE difference he's made over Brian Stewart with virtually the same personel and coaches. The changes that were made in personel were changes that Wade instigated and now the Cowboys have arguably a top 5 defense. Why would Jerry risk that D to promote a struggling "RED"?

Defense wins Championships. That's why I can't see Jerry getting rid of Wade. Unless there is a complete collapse in the next month.

Wade should get credit for the success of the defense.

Wade should also get blame for lack of sacks, lack of turnovers and allowing teams to convert 3rd and longs too often.


Stats are not a tell-all.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I will say that Galloway and Mosley were talking about this on Friday and it was the first time I've ever heard them (especially Galloway) say he thinks that barring a big collapse, Wade is coming back. He said Jerry doesn't want to bring in a Holmgren or Shanahan unless he absolutely has to, mainly because he thinks they'll want too much control like Parcells did. And part of it may be the possibilty of a 2011 lockout as well -- owners don't want to sign these coaches to 6-7-8 million dollar a year deals and then pay them for a year when no football is being played.

But Galloway is the #1 Wade hater and he's always acted like he should've been fired already and one wrong move and he would be fired. This is the first time I've heard him say something different. And any time I hear a change of opinion like that, it makes me think he's talked to people out there and heard something.

But if we could win the East two out of three years after not winning the division in, what, 12 years (Gailey, right?), that's pretty good. The real question would be what happens if the offense catches fire and Garrett is a hot candidate again.