It occurs to me that Romo is the offensive genius, not the coaches

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We weren't playing that well when Romo was healthy. WRs coughed up the ball so many times against the Giants that it was a miracle we won. Then our whole offense laid an egg against the Eagles but the defense had a once in a decade performance that gave us the win. Whatever is going wrong, we need to get it fixed in these next 4 games so that we're clicking when Romo returns.
 

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Romo is the straw that stirs the drink. His play smooths out so much that is wrong at times. All the warts with blocking and WR routes look less noticeable with Romo in the game.

same with Rodgers, same with brady, same with manning (when he was younger), etc.
 

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If you think about it, Weeden started out like a house-afire. 7-7 and a touch in PHI in what turned out to be a really big game for us. Then the first half in ATL where he didn't throw an incompletion until that stupid pick. From that point on, things sort of evaporated on him. You're right that the third down inefficiency did him in. I will say that Bill Belichick has a long history of making bad QBs look awful. See what he did to Cassel with the Vikes in 2014 for exhibit B on that score. 30-7. 4 picks. Looks pretty familiar.

Yep. It was that crazy interception against Atlanta that seemed to start his downward trend. I also agree about Belichick being a nightmare for an average QB to play against. That has always been in the back of my mind, even when I'm complaining about Weeden.

As far as the defense goes, and I think they played well v. NE and I don't care what the score was. But I'm so tired of hearing that they wore out because of the offense. That's just BS we tell ourselves to make it seem like the defense will be better when Romo is back. Their job is to stop the other guys. If they want to get off the field, hold up on 3rd downs early in drives, every drive, and nobody's talking about how tired they got. Hold onto the interceptions. Don't hold the receivers. Strip the ball. Everything else is lip service unless we're winning games. I'm so tired of our fans only paying attention to half of the football game every week.

Like you, I am pretty tired of all of the analysis about it and just feel like they need to just find a way. Stop making mistakes, stop dropping INT's, start getting some loose balls, and start winning the games.

However, I do feel like all of the three and out's in the first half against New England had the defense worn down after half time. It simply had to. Dallas did make some defensive mistakes in the second half, and those damn picks that New England loves are very difficult to deal with even if the defense is fresh... but having to do it over and over as the offense continually went three and out was way too much to ask from any defense.

But yeah, I'm just wanting them to find a way to win, no matter what they do... and I'm ready to stop finding reasons why they didn't win.

The offense is ranked 23rd in terms of DVOA with Dez and Romo out. The defense is 22nd, and if you listen to our fans, it's also because Dez and Romo are out. I call bull. We're basically at full strength on that side of the ball right now. Time for them to start winning some games instead of keeping us in them for a half and then getting a pass because they're tired out.

While I am tired of hearing it all the time, the truth is that Romo and Dez are among the very best in the NFL and I do feel like their absence is absolutely a big factor in the team's current record. Even if everyone in the offense is healthy and playing except for those two, then the entire offense is still going to be much less efficient than they would be with Tony and Dez. It happened int he one game against Arizona last year when they had absolutely no respect for the passing game with Weeden back there and they shut down the run... and that was with Dez still playing. The run game couldn't do much and the defense got worn out by the second half.

I just think that the whole team is dependent on a delicate balance of run/pass/3rd down/time of possession/momentum/etc., that there is almost no way to determine what would or wouldn't happen with injured guys back.

But yeah, I'm with you... just find a way.
 

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We weren't playing that well when Romo was healthy. WRs coughed up the ball so many times against the Giants that it was a miracle we won. Then our whole offense laid an egg against the Eagles but the defense had a once in a decade performance that gave us the win. Whatever is going wrong, we need to get it fixed in these next 4 games so that we're clicking when Romo returns.

the WRs coughing up the ball is the coaches fault. they should have gotten out of the way
 

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Yep. It was that crazy interception against Atlanta that seemed to start his downward trend. I also agree about Belichick being a nightmare for an average QB to play against. That has always been in the back of my mind, even when I'm complaining about Weeden.

Like you, I am pretty tired of all of the analysis about it and just feel like they need to just find a way. Stop making mistakes, stop dropping INT's, start getting some loose balls, and start winning the games.

However, I do feel like all of the three and out's in the first half against New England had the defense worn down after half time. It simply had to. Dallas did make some defensive mistakes in the second half, and those damn picks that New England loves are very difficult to deal with even if the defense is fresh... but having to do it over and over as the offense continually went three and out was way too much to ask from any defense.

But yeah, I'm just wanting them to find a way to win, no matter what they do... and I'm ready to stop finding reasons why they didn't win.

While I am tired of hearing it all the time, the truth is that Romo and Dez are among the very best in the NFL and I do feel like their absence is absolutely a big factor in the team's current record. Even if everyone in the offense is healthy and playing except for those two, then the entire offense is still going to be much less efficient than they would be with Tony and Dez. It happened int he one game against Arizona last year when they had absolutely no respect for the passing game with Weeden back there and they shut down the run... and that was with Dez still playing. The run game couldn't do much and the defense got worn out by the second half.

I just think that the whole team is dependent on a delicate balance of run/pass/3rd down/time of possession/momentum/etc., that there is almost no way to determine what would or wouldn't happen with injured guys back.

But yeah, I'm with you... just find a way.

Yeah, obviously, the offensive ineptitude last week didn't help. The picks---er, I mean, creative rub-routes--were back breakers, too. Mostly, though, if you play NE, you have to put up ~30, and it's still going to be a shootout. With Romo and Dez, we ought to be among the cream of the NFC. Without them, I refuse to believe we can't beat mediocre rosters like NO and the NYFG. I don't care which bad QB we have backing up. They're not much worse options than Bradford and Cousins, for crying out loud. We've got a supposedly elite OL and what ought to be a quality defense. Time to start putting the expectations where they belong.
 

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Romo has definitely achieved total consciousness. He's got that going for him.

Peyton, Brady, Romo, and Brees are the only guys that honestly know more than their offensive coordinators about football.
 

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Remember when Romo signed his new contract and Jerry said we're going to give him more control over the offense? It occurs to me that it's not Linehan or Garrett who were the brains behind our premier offense last season, but rather Tony. The drop off since he got hurt has been stunning. I realize a lot of that has to do with his talent, but he's got to be one of the top in the league at recognizing defenses and knowing what the offense needs to do. I think he's been operating at a Peyton Manning level regarding strategy - recognizing defenses and knowing the right play to call.

The only credit I give to Linehan and Garrett is getting out of the way and letting Tony do his thing. But who knows? Maybe Jerry told them they had to, and Jerry actually deserves the credit. To be honest, when Jerry said that a few years ago I was skeptical it was a good plan, but I've got to give him props on getting Tony more authority over the offense.

Maybe you forget that Romo would constantly audible from run to pass before Linehan arrived.

Murray would not have been the league leader in rushing last year if Romo was calling the plays.

Romo and Dez are just really talented and the running game was not great even in game 1 when they both played. Once they were out the team had Weed, no #1 WR and a running game that was not great even when Romo/Dez were in the game.
 

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How is it the coaches' fault a guy can't hold onto the ball? I thought they taught ball security in Pop Warner.

it was intended as a sarcasm...everything that goes wrong is either the coaches fault or garrett's fault. everything that goes right its linehan or all romo. all incompletions are garrett's fault by nature. any play gaining less than 4 yards, its garrett's fault.
 

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Not gonna happen.

Star players who take in over 100 mill in their careers realize rather quickly that they don't want a 12-14 hour a day job.

Yeah, I could see him going the Troy Aikman route. I think we all know he.s a lot more charismatic then 'press conference' Tony.
 

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it was intended as a sarcasm...everything that goes wrong is either the coaches fault or garrett's fault. everything that goes right its linehan or all romo. all incompletions are garrett's fault by nature. any play gaining less than 4 yards, its garrett's fault.

Same with draft picks/personal decisions. Bad pick, jerry. Good pic, the shadow regime locked jerry in a closet
 

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Same with draft picks/personal decisions. Bad pick, jerry. Good pic, the shadow regime locked jerry in a closet

same with defense. its the offenses fault the defense is bad and its all garrett's fault for the offense to be bad. he sucks because he can't make a scheme and make weeden into a probowl QB....
 

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But Tony is just a high risk/high reward player and he isn't going to change.

Well, he has changed somewhat. He has limited his turnovers a good bit from what they were early in his career. He has tempered his decisions a little bit. Some of his incredible plays have not shown up as much as they did before he limited his risks though. It is something that most Cowboys fans will take in exchange for fewer turnovers.

Still, overall you are right. He likes to try to make plays that most QB's won't attempt, and always has.
 

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Romo can do more with JG's stale offense, mainly he can extend plays.
So That is why without him, it is just the stale offense.
 

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Romo can do more with JG's stale offense, mainly he can extend plays.
So That is why without him, it is just the stale offense.

Might have something to do with the QB playing. Kitna didn't have any issue with it.
 

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Romo doesn't know how to read multiple fronts, stunts, and formations that well.

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