News: ITS: If Dak Prescott falls again, can Joe Milton carry the Cowboys?

[MountaineerCowboy]

Wrong again you build the offensive line first then draft a quarterback so he has a fighting chance of survival and is able to do his best not run for his life and be sacked into unconsciousness.

At this point now that we have invested in our offensive line we need to start drafting quarterbacks as they should be able to play to their potential with the talent we have in front of them

So when Dak makes the offensive line look like crap like he has the past 5ish year then what?

When Dak sucks you guys will stay fooled that the O-Line is the problem and your "build the offensive line first" way of thinking will be a never ending process.

You build around the QB, not for the QB.

 

[kskboys]

So when Dak makes the offensive line look like crap like he has the past 5ish year then what?

When Dak sucks you guys will stay fooled that the O-Line is the problem and your "build the offensive line first" way of thinking will be a never ending process.

You build around the QB, not for the QB.

Dak's had a decent OL for the majority of his NFL career.

 

[GINeric]

So when Dak makes the offensive line look like crap like he has the past 5ish year then what?

When Dak sucks you guys will stay fooled that the O-Line is the problem and your "build the offensive line first" way of thinking will be a never ending process.

You build around the QB, not for the QB.

See this is what happens when you're not really a fan of the team. Rival trolls never pay attention to what's really going on with the team.

Now you said Dak made the offensive line look like crap for 5 years, correct? Well if you really knew what was going on, until last season, the starting offensive line didn't play together consistently for 3 years straight. There was shuffling and rearranging due to multiple injuries.

Now when the offensive line failed to open up holes for the running game, were heavily penalized for false starts, hands to the face and holding......

which part of the blocking assignments was Dak's fault?

I'll patiently wait......

And while you're thinking of some spin job excuses for that question, please tell me how Dak was able to make an offensive line look like crap while becoming an All-Pro and MVP candidate?? Enlighten us as to how that makes sense.....

 

[ghst187]

Haven’t even seen Milton play since college but already makes me think of Jameis Winston and Baker Mayfield….
Strong arm, streaky, will win some games behind a strong performance but lose some with some really bad ones. We’ll see, but he is intriguing.

 

[acr731]

Dak's had a decent OL for the majority of his NFL career.

He has.... but it's always the o'line getting the blame for his failures. Or the lack of a rushing game. It's always something other than Dak.

Dak simply isn't mobile enough. I think he would still have the same issues even if he had the early 90's o'line

 

[DuncanIso]

He has more experience than milton

Grier is a better QB.

But still a scrub.

 

[DuncanIso]

Haven’t even seen Milton play since college but already makes me think of Jameis Winston and Baker Mayfield….
Strong arm, streaky, will win some games behind a strong performance but lose some with some really bad ones. We’ll see, but he is intriguing.

His contract isn’t GTD.

No harm when he’s eventually cut.

 

[GINeric]

He has.... but it's always the o'line getting the blame for his failures. Or the lack of a rushing game. It's always something other than Dak.

Dak simply isn't mobile enough. I think he would still have the same issues even if he had the early 90's o'line

Dak certainly deserves his serving of blame, but when there's a lack of rushing game, who do you believe is responsible for that? It definitely isn't the quarterback.

There has never been a quarterback in NFL history who was at fault or responsible for the lack of success in the running game. Quarterbacks don't block. If a running game is lacking that's completely on the offensive line and running backs.

 

[Chasing6]

The guy responsible for taking the team on the bus where they wanna go. What’s wrong with being the bus driver, the bus breaks down he’s in charge.

So he is a mechanic?

 

[blueblood70]

Dak certainly deserves his serving of blame, but when there's a lack of rushing game, who do you believe is responsible for that? It definitely isn't the quarterback.

There has never been a quarterback in NFL history who was at fault or responsible for the lack of success in the running game. Quarterbacks don't block. If a running game is lacking that's completely on the offensive line and running backs.

Well, it's not just a lack of a rushing game, I agree look at all the playoff losses and you'll see the recent playoff losses we've had a run game production of under 3 yards per carry that's sad no big place from any position no impact plays... When you can't stop the run and you can't run you're going to lose games and blaming the quarterback is just a hater game someone who doesn't like one of the quarterbacks are going to blame the quarterback...

I mean I seem to remember that Roger and Troy had some of the best offensive and defensive lines some of the best run games and best coaching Staffs in this league In some ways they were carried I don't care what people say they're overrating those rings Act like the quarterback carried the team when the team carried the quarterback think about how great they were in the trenches but the run games show me where in the big game our run game showed up and said hey quarterback all you got to do is do your thing about carrying us we got it yeah that's what Tony Doer said emmitt Smith did and there were more than just them but the lack of separation by the wide receivers and tight ends not getting open just insane people dropping footballs and having balls bounce off them it's just been everything..​

it's the lack of physicality and blocking against the better teams in crunch time both sides of the ball in a trench as this team just has let Dak down more than Dak has let him down same with Romo this is a 3 phase issue this is a coaching issue we have been on the short end of the stick against these better teams in just about every game whether it's a regular season or the playoffs and as a whole lot more to do than the quarterback...

As the quarterbacks had bad stats and didn't play well in those games sure but which ones would you have to be to blame the quarterback in those situations for trying to make things happen when there was nothing to be made...

That's what our fan base has done they look at the quarterback and while it's true they didn't have their better games in those losses they forget all the things that created that atmosphere that environment was bad because nobody else was there playing as a team of course the quarterback's going to look bad hell even Patrick Mahomes last Super Bowl looked like a rookie his offense was just flat out shut down and dominated and he couldn't do anything about it.. Had no help that game He didn't have a run game the play calling wasn't working his defense wasn't as good as it had been in the regular season they got dominated top to bottom and that's what's been going on with the Cowboys for a very long time...

 

[DuncanIso]

He has.... but it's always the o'line getting the blame for his failures. Or the lack of a rushing game. It's always something other than Dak.

Dak simply isn't mobile enough. I think he would still have the same issues even if he had the early 90's o'line

He’s older and slower now.

In our teams history, Aikman was one of the longest starters.

They just don’t play forever.

I’d guess, based on his contract, they are looking to get two seasons out of him

 

[Whirlwin]

So he is a mechanic?

That’s right, he can fix it . Is mechanics his ability you nailed it.

 

[Wangchung83]

Well, it's not just a lack of a rushing game, I agree look at all the playoff losses and you'll see the recent playoff losses we've had a run game production of under 3 yards per carry that's sad no big place from any position no impact plays... When you can't stop the run and you can't run you're going to lose games and blaming the quarterback is just a hater game someone who doesn't like one of the quarterbacks are going to blame the quarterback...

I mean I seem to remember that Roger and Troy had some of the best offensive and defensive lines some of the best run games and best coaching Staffs in this league In some ways they were carried I don't care what people say they're overrating those rings Act like the quarterback carried the team when the team carried the quarterback think about how great they were in the trenches but the run games show me where in the big game our run game showed up and said hey quarterback all you got to do is do your thing about carrying us we got it yeah that's what Tony Doer said emmitt Smith did and there were more than just them but the lack of separation by the wide receivers and tight ends not getting open just insane people dropping footballs and having balls bounce off them it's just been everything..​

it's the lack of physicality and blocking against the better teams in crunch time both sides of the ball in a trench as this team just has let Dak down more than Dak has let him down same with Romo this is a 3 phase issue this is a coaching issue we have been on the short end of the stick against these better teams in just about every game whether it's a regular season or the playoffs and as a whole lot more to do than the quarterback...

As the quarterbacks had bad stats and didn't play well in those games sure but which ones would you have to be to blame the quarterback in those situations for trying to make things happen when there was nothing to be made...

That's what our fan base has done they look at the quarterback and while it's true they didn't have their better games in those losses they forget all the things that created that atmosphere that environment was bad because nobody else was there playing as a team of course the quarterback's going to look bad hell even Patrick Mahomes last Super Bowl looked like a rookie his offense was just flat out shut down and dominated and he couldn't do anything about it.. Had no help that game He didn't have a run game the play calling wasn't working his defense wasn't as good as it had been in the regular season they got dominated top to bottom and that's what's been going on with the Cowboys for a very long time...

Actually most legimate fans and those with knowledge have moved on from the 30 years losers. I hung out with one of my closest friends, former tcu quarterback and its laughable how he sees it just as I do. We both firmly disagree with this board and what is now a remaining few Dak supporters. We didn't forget deer in the headlights Dak, going down multiple TDs and gasing the defense. That was the environment of those games and can't see that in just stats alone. Dak has a lot to do with our failure in rushing game bc he isn't a dual threat and doesn't audible into better plays. He is who he is and it’s not changing this year or for the remainder of his career. No need for me to sugarcoat it and say I hope that changes and I'm wrong, bc I wont be wrong.

 

[Bullflop]

I know this much . . . if Joe Milton were to turn in a favorable number of shocking performances in the happening of Dak's absence that led to a championship run, there would be dancing in the streets by many Cowboys fans. Come to think of it, I'd probably be one of them!

 

[GINeric]

Dak has a lot to do with our failure in rushing game bc he isn't a dual threat and doesn't audible into better plays.

I have no problem with most of the things you said but this right here is absolute BS. Troy Aikman wasn't a dual threat. Did the Cowboys running game fail? I can name many other quarterbacks who weren't dual threats and they had great running games.

There has never been a quarterback in history who was responsible for the success OR failure of his team's running game unless he was an offensive linemen or running back.

Then you said he doesn't audible into better plays. How does an NFL quarterback be in the top 10 out of atleast 64 quarterbacks league wide his whole career in seasons he remained healthy, become an All-Pro and MVP candidate....

If he doesn't know how to audible into better plays??

Once again, we all know Dak isn't elite. But for a quarterback to do all those things previously stated at the NFL level and supposedly "cant audible into better plays" really doesn't make sense my friend.

 

[jaybird]

I have just a little more confidence in Milton than I had in Rush. I think Milton has a much higher ceiling and he hasn't reached it yet. Haven't seen enough of him to say he could "carry" the team though.

He does have great phyiscal ability. That is encouraging

 

[deerhunter11]

Grier is better.

Grier has got some game he is capable of playing at a high level.I'm looking forward to watching Milton and Grier both play in preseason games.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Lord no. How many times does Cooper Rush have to come in & win just as much as Dak does for ya'll to realize he's not the engine that propels this ship?

We have been fortunate enough to have pretty decent overall team these past years & some really favorable schedules and\or catching teams when they have injuries, etc.. The NFL is a parity league and a lot of the parity is below what should be league average.

There are a lot of QB's who could have done everything Dak has done & more over the course of his time here. He simply isn't a positive difference maker.

And please stop with the MVP talk. That is one of the most over hyped propoganda pieces his supporters have ever touted. He has never been anywhere near ACTUALLY winning an MVP. This kinda talk from the homers is what is ridiculous.

Simply False.

Lord no. How many times does Cooper Rush have to come in & win just as much as Dak does for ya'll to realize he's not the engine that propels this ship?

We have been fortunate enough to have pretty decent overall team these past years & some really favorable schedules and\or catching teams when they have injuries, etc.. The NFL is a parity league and a lot of the parity is below what should be league average.

There are a lot of QB's who could have done everything Dak has done & more over the course of his time here. He simply isn't a positive difference maker.

And please stop with the MVP talk. That is one of the most over hyped propoganda pieces his supporters have ever touted. He has never been anywhere near ACTUALLY winning an MVP. This kinda talk from the homers is what is ridiculous.

I'm not a Dak supporter but if you think Cooper Rush is as good as Dak than you need to start watching more football...lol

 

[McKDaddy]

Simply False.

I'm not a Dak supporter but if you think Cooper Rush is as good as Dak than you need to start watching more football...lol

Are you arguing that he didn't get just as good a results?

Cooper does some things better than Dak. Dak does some things better than Rush. Ultimately, neither is good enough. That's what basic football knowledge should tell anyone.

 

[BHendri5]

If Dak Prescott falls again, can Joe Milton carry the Cowboys?​

https://insidethestar.com/if-dak-prescott-falls-again-can-joe-milton-carry-the-cowboys

In three of the last five seasons, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott has failed to play a full season due to injuries.​

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He has suffered three separate leg injuries alone over those five campaigns.​

Heck no!!! Joe Milton is trash!!! now this was a Jerry trade in my opinion, it takes me back to when he drafted Quincy because the eargirls had McFlabb.
I am a big Jerry Jones fan, but I will call him out when I disagree with him