It's... the... PLAYERS!!!

[fanfromvirginia]

If you watch the players they don't seem prepared and they are confused and lost out there.

I think we're all agreeing on that. We're disagreeing on A) the cause and B) what to do about it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

If you watch the players they don't seem prepared and they are confused and lost out there.

Thats why teams line up the bunch so much against us. Our guys always look confused against that formation.

Our line is dumb, lets be honest. Flozel is half deaf, and I'm not exactly sure he's that bright. Gurode is obviously a total *******.

I think our guys are most lazy than anything else.

Holding a soft training camp for a complacent group yields a team full of injuries, mental errors, and penalties.

Wade hasn't won anywhere he's gone, why was he going to win here?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

:laugh2:I wish. I went to bed late after having to pick up siblings from a flight that got delayed and got up early to get them situated before I headed out to work and haven't eaten anything since lunch yesterday, running on fumes right now.

HAHA... yeah.. done that a few times.

Got a pickup tomorrow

 

[links18]

Why does it have to be one or the other? Our players aren't executing that is clear, but the coaches aren't holding players accountable. Take the first McGahee TD run for example: Spencer runs around his block and gives up his gap. Poor execution for sure. But he does the exact same thing on the 2nd run. What happened on the sideline between the 2 plays? Did Spencer get any coaching? And Romo is just too reckless, but is anyone holding him accountable for that. Doesn't seem like it. Wade Phillips was a poor choice to coach this team. He should have been fired after the home playoff loss debacle last year. Garrett just isn't ready yet.....

 

[CATCH17]

Just off the top of my head I could see the Commanders fans being worse... or just a few weeks ago... the Eagles fans wanted to take McNabb to the nearest Guillotine.


Besides there is no way you could substantiate your "Opinion"... because thats all it is..... it certainly isnt fact.

Dude we're bustin on Romo.

People are calling for Matt Cassell.

 

[28 Joker]

Example: @ Arizona

The defense has just forced a turnover, and the Dallas' offense takes over at the Arizona 25. The Cowboys have not blocked the Cardinals four man rush all day. Flozell Adams is getting abused, because he is playing really hurt.

What is Garrett's first call? Of course, the big play. Romo drops back to pass, stands there holding the ball like Ton Brady while looking down the field and is hit. He fumbles and gives it right back to them. 3 points would have been the difference.

Overtime:

Under a heavy pass rush, the Cowboys look to throw down the field on the first play in overtime when calling safer plays in order to give Romo some room, would be smarter game management. Romo is hit, fumbles, and he breaks his finger. This call is made after the Tuck Rule saves Romo's fumble in the endzone for a Cardinals touchdown.

The Cardinals beat the crap out of him and hit him 17 or 18 times, because Garrett wouldn't get the ball out of his hand quicker.

How is that not on the offensive coordinator?

He must manage Tony Romo in order to manage the game and limit some of his mistakes.

It is elementary football.

Offensive Game Management

 

[NextGenBoys]

We have all done our fair share of blaming everyone from Jerry Jones to Wade to Garrett to scouting dept etc...(myself included)...


but lets look at this realistically.

The players are not executing.


ie. Those last two TD runs by the Ravens... we had 4 or 5 defenders surrounding the ball carrier and he got through anyway.

ie. Romo not hitting his WR's
ie. His WR's not catching the ball when its delivered or not running the right route or running the route through

The players... they dont execute.

I agree completely.

My personal opinion, is people blame when the coaching when they dont know what they're talking about or who to complain about.

 

[percyhoward]

Coaches...don't...escape...blame.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Coaches...don't...escape...blame.

I think the coaches should get PART of the blame. But not the amount that they're getting. They are indeed part of the problem, be it Wade or Garrett, but players have to execute, and from missed tackles to missed throws, it is not happening.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

I think the coaches should get PART of the blame. But not the amount that they're getting. They are indeed part of the problem, be it Wade or Garrett, but players have to execute, and from missed tackles to missed throws, it is not happening.

Right, but doesn't it then fall upon the coaches to fix it? It is the players' job to not make these mistakes. When they do, it is the coaches' job to fix it. If the players continue to make the mistakes then, yes, they are stupid but, yes, the coaches are crap. Whose faults is it? I don't know -- it probably is some mix. But that's not the most useful question here. We need to ask how do we fix it? And here's a hint: it's not going to get fixed without capable coaches.

 

[Bach]

Who knows....but.....

When we won our first SB in the 90's...it was Jimmy Genius....and Jerry Jones had no part of it...

When we won our 3rd one in the 90's ....it was Jimmy Players that won....not Coaching or Jerry Jones.....Switzer was just there for the ride

Yeah, that's right. You really think Jerry built those teams or that Barry took the 2 time SB champs and coached them up to another SB?

Now we have a talented team again and Jerry is still a idiot....our Coaching sucks and the players are dumb......right?

It will be interesting that if by chance....we make the playoffs...turn it around and win this SB.....who would get this credit? Rowdy?

Jerry is primarily responsible for the last dozen years.

Interesting how some of you want to credit him for the Super Bowl years when Jimmy was coaching, had full control of his staff and was mostly responsible for drafting and personnel. Yet the last dozen years when Jerry has mainly been running the show, these same people don't want to credit him for our playoff record. With the exception of the four years Parcells was here, Jerry's been the main personnel man at the Ranch.

 

[cbartel81]

AMEN to the thread! Players play and coaches coach. Never in all my years around the game have I heard a coach tell a QB to get out of the pocket and throw it deep down the middle of the field. Even on a Hail Mary you throw it to the corner.

 

[Hostile]

AMEN to the thread! Players play and coaches coach. Never in all my years around the game have I heard a coach tell a QB to get out of the pocket and throw it deep down the middle of the field. Even on a Hail Mary you throw it to the corner.

The reason for this is simple. If the WR can't catch it, neither can the DBs if he knocks it out of bounds. The sideline becomes the Offense's hidden advantage.

 

[RoadRunner]

Our fan base is dumb. It is the worst in the NFL.

Oh please, its no different than any other fan base. People are people.

To try and suggest that just because someone cheers for Dallas makes them more likely to be "dumb" can be viewed as trolling in my opinion. See how that works? What you consider trolling may not actually be considered trolling to other people.

 

[Biggems]

According to Larry Brown and the Talking Cowboys crew......it is the fault of the players...and I am talking on the defensive side of the ball.

He was saying Campo is meticulous with his design and putting players in the right place to succeed.....it is up to the players to follow his design, his blueprint. Campo was his secondary coach in the early 90s.

He is saying that the coaches are coaching the players well and they have developed excellent gameplans. Why isn't it working? Because the players are freelancing instead of merely following through with their assignment and the design of the defensive rotation. Players are trying too hard to be the hero and make the play, instead of just doing their designed role.

If our players had done their designed role on both of those runs, as well as some other plays, then we most likely stop the Ravens for little to no gain.

So either the players don't trust the coaches and their design, or they are greedy and want to get the stats, notoriety, and praise.

 

[Biggems]

Oh please, its no different than any other fan base. People are people.

To try and suggest that just because someone cheers for Dallas makes them more likely to be "dumb" can be viewed as trolling in my opinion. See how that works? What you consider trolling may not actually be considered trolling to other people.

GREAT SONG

 

[28 Joker]

There should be accountability for players and coaches.

Like that Arizona example. Go back and watch the first play I mentioned. Romo holds the ball way too long, because he wants the big play. He either has to get rid of it quicker or feel that backside pressure and step up and throw it. Adams had ridden the DE wide and given Romo enough time to throw the ball. The defensive end was driven behind Romo, and Romo gave him extra time by holding the football too long.


Jason Garrett can protect Tony Romo through the structure of his offense, his play calling, game management, and gameplans. Both Romo and Garrett seem like riverboat gamblers to me, imo.

Again, basic offensive game management from your offensive coordinator would have at least 11 wins in the bank.

Look at the Arizona, Giants, and Eagles games. In all those games we saw Romo getting decked in the endzone and the ball on the ground in the endzone.

Why?

Because Jason Garrett called pass plays inside his own five yard line.

One play had Romo doing a Peter Pan in the endzone while the Eagles scored their second TD in seconds. (Romo had just been picked off.) The Cowboys lost complete control of that game because of turnovers.

Another play saw the snap count messed up, and Cory Proctor is still in his stance. Romo saved that game when he knocked the ball out of the endzone.

The Tuck Rule took away a Cardinals TD when Romo went back to pass in his own endzone.

Is it asking too much from the offensive coordinator to give himself and Romo some room before he starts bombing it down the field?

 

[percyhoward]

AMEN to the thread! Players play and coaches coach. Never in all my years around the game have I heard a coach tell a QB to get out of the pocket and throw it deep down the middle of the field. Even on a Hail Mary you throw it to the corner.

Coach, what did you think of the 10/17 run/pass ratio in the first half against the Ravens?

 

[percyhoward]

Jason Garrett can protect Tony Romo through the structure of his offense, his play calling, game management, and gameplans.

Preach.

He can protect Romo that way, and we can win games that way.

 

[burmafrd]

The players do not fear the consequences of messing up. They do not fear the consequences of trying to show off and make a big play and freelance. THAT is on the coaches and Wade in particular.