Jameis Winston being investigated for Sexual Assault

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Jameis Winston part of investigation
Updated: November 14, 2013, 1:17 PM ET
By David M. Hale and Mark Schlabach | ESPN.com

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida State freshman quarterback and Heisman Trophy candidate Jameis Winston is part of an ongoing investigation into a sexual assault complaint filed with the Tallahassee Police Department in December 2012.

"It was closed in February and it was then handed over to the state attorney today," Jansen said Wednesday. "We've been cooperating with them and we've supplied them with witness affidavits. We hope this case will be resolved quickly in Mr. Winston's favor.

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Might derail his Heisman bid

You almost wonder if some rival didn't have the case reopened.
He sure doesn't fit the description of the accussed.
5' 9" 240 is radically different than 6' 4' 217 ...but hey, at least they go the skin pigment right. Good grief.
 

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Still LOTS of questions. Like how come her initial identification of the suspect was so far off of Winston?
To be brutally blunt, I see very little chance of this resulting with a conviction.

As regards the claim about what the detective supposedly said- why is everyone screaming about that.

If the detective did say it, he was only being honest. She will be raked over the coals; she will basically have her life messed up. sad but true.
 

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Still LOTS of questions. Like how come her initial identification of the suspect was so far off of Winston?
To be brutally blunt, I see very little chance of this resulting with a conviction.

As regards the claim about what the detective supposedly said- why is everyone screaming about that.

If the detective did say it, he was only being honest. She will be raked over the coals; she will basically have her life messed up. sad but true.
Because blaming the victim is the thing to do? If a woman files a complaint of rape, you don't victimize her even further by suggesting her life will be over because of who she accused.

As for the DNA match, at this point, it means that sexual intercourse occurred at some point. But the young man does have some 'splaining to do, otherwise he's going to have more than derailed Heisman trophy candidacy to worry about.
 

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Still LOTS of questions. Like how come her initial identification of the suspect was so far off of Winston?
To be brutally blunt, I see very little chance of this resulting with a conviction.

As regards the claim about what the detective supposedly said- why is everyone screaming about that.

If the detective did say it, he was only being honest. She will be raked over the coals; she will basically have her life messed up. sad but true.

You have to look at the context of the whole situation. The detective says those things and the case is pursued is different than the detective making those comments and the case is put on hold. In the first scenario one may be able to say the cop was being honest of what the victim is up against, but by pursuing the case the cops show they support her story. In the second situation by putting the case on hold the detectives words sound more like a warning for her to drop her pursuit of this.
 

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Because blaming the victim is the thing to do? If a woman files a complaint of rape, you don't victimize her even further by suggesting her life will be over because of who she accused.

As for the DNA match, at this point, it means that sexual intercourse occurred at some point. But the young man does have some 'splaining to do, otherwise he's going to have more than derailed Heisman trophy candidacy to worry about.



Actually all the test showed was he matched the semen on her underwear. No proof they had intercourse.

And honestly you whining about blaming the victim is NOT the point. It is called reality: and reality is that any woman charging rape is going to get worked by the system. You claiming that is NOT true?

And of course the media will do the same. You claiming that is NOT true?
 

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Actually all the test showed was he matched the semen on her underwear. No proof they had intercourse.

And honestly you whining about blaming the victim is NOT the point. It is called reality: and reality is that any woman charging rape is going to get worked by the system. You claiming that is NOT true?

And of course the media will do the same. You claiming that is NOT true?
I don't whine. I expressed an opinion. Whether you think it's true or not is irrelevant. No detective or officer of the court should ever suggest anything remotely like what the detective said to a complainant. It was unprofessional and inappropriate.
 

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Still LOTS of questions. Like how come her initial identification of the suspect was so far off of Winston?
To be brutally blunt, I see very little chance of this resulting with a conviction.
I agree there is very little chance of a conviction. However, FSU policy is to suspend any athlete charged with a felony so if charges are brought forth, the college football season is thrown into disarray.

As for her initial identification, the word around the FSU campus is that the victim knew Winston. In fact, I saw a picture of the alleged victim dancing with Winston and let's just say there weren't exactly making room for the Holy Ghost.
 

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Actually all the test showed was he matched the semen on her underwear. No proof they had intercourse.

And honestly you whining about blaming the victim is NOT the point. It is called reality: and reality is that any woman charging rape is going to get worked by the system. You claiming that is NOT true?

And of course the media will do the same. You claiming that is NOT true?

except the attorney now admits they did.

not looking good for Winston at all.
 

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I don't whine. I expressed an opinion. Whether you think it's true or not is irrelevant. No detective or officer of the court should ever suggest anything remotely like what the detective said to a complainant. It was unprofessional and inappropriate.

this likely costs the detective his job.
that isn't just a big no-no it is a million dollar civil suit waiting to happen.

a detective is supposed to gather facts and collect data not try to supress it.

the girl in question is now coming out publicly saying she never changed her mind, sticks to her statements to police and wants them all to go down in flames for the handling of this case.

no one looks good in this. the girl won't, the police won't, winston won't.
but if she was raped god bless her for standing up for herself now.
 

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I agree there is very little chance of a conviction. However, FSU policy is to suspend any athlete charged with a felony so if charges are brought forth, the college football season is thrown into disarray.

As for her initial identification, the word around the FSU campus is that the victim knew Winston. In fact, I saw a picture of the alleged victim dancing with Winston and let's just say there weren't exactly making room for the Holy Ghost.

FSU can win out without Winston. Now they aren't beating Bama/Baylor/OSU without him but that's a good deal away.
 

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FSU can win out without Winston. Now they aren't beating Bama/Baylor/OSU without him but that's a good deal away.
Ya they can win out without Winston, but who the heck wants to see a national championship game between the #1 team in the nation and a team that is probably not even in the top-10 without their quarterback? It may be a good deal for them, but it's a pretty raw deal for fans of college football.
 

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Ya they can win out without Winston, but who the heck wants to see a national championship game between the #1 team in the nation and a team that is probably not even in the top-10 without their quarterback? It may be a good deal for them, but it's a pretty raw deal for fans of college football.

Colin Cowherd mentioned that FSU's backup QB is hurt. IF that is true and If FSU had to play right now it would be with a 3rd string QB.
 

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I don't whine. I expressed an opinion. Whether you think it's true or not is irrelevant. No detective or officer of the court should ever suggest anything remotely like what the detective said to a complainant. It was unprofessional and inappropriate.



get off your high horse. And I notice you did not deny what was going to happen to her. Now the context of course matters but the bottom line is that the detective was being honest about what would happen.
 

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get off your high horse. And I notice you did not deny what was going to happen to her. Now the context of course matters but the bottom line is that the detective was being honest about what would happen.

You don't know how he exactly he worded his honesty. The tone and wording matter. It could have come across as more of a threat than just brutal honesty of what she would be facing.
 
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