Jared Goff coming in for a official visit?

[Vinnie2u]

Mayock, Kiper, Jeramiah, Gruden, CAsserly, Polian, McShay, Kirwin, Miller, and every other nationally known draft expert all say that Wentz and Goff are every bit as good as Maiotta and Winston. Some compare them to Luck and other NFL franchise QBs, but out resident Youtube expert scouts still continue to say that they are not worthy of the 4th pick!

Been saying this for months. I do have an agenda. I want Romo's successor on the roster this year.. There are slim picking in the QB position in college the years coming up.. If the people who get fired and hired by evaluating talent think Wentz, Goff or Lynch are a future franchise QB. You take them at #4 and you don't look back..

 

[JoeyBoy718]

The Rams hold picks 15, 43, 45, 76, 110 and 190.

Would 43 and 76 be enough to move from 15 to 4, or should we not expect that much? I'm not all that familiar with the whole draft value chart thing.

Give me picks 15, 43 and 45 for our 1st and 4th.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Wentz is weak. But "RG3 was a really great QB prospect".

I guess it makes sense to view hype in a different vein.

Griffin was so great he bombed out and needed the worst franchise in the NFL to bail out his career.

Just goes to show you how off pre-draft evaluations can be.

We are talking about consensus view going into the draft.

Sorry if that's too nuanced an approach for you. But what a player did in the NFL in hindsight has nothing to do with how the prospect was viewed coming into the draft.

Rg3 was a better prospect than Wentz. Much better. Deal with it.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Says who the YouTube scouts?

Yes the YouTube scouts influenced the Commanders to give up all those picks for a guy who wasn't highly sought after.

You sound ridiculous.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Give me picks 15, 43 and 45 for our 1st and 4th.

I wouldn't give them our 4th, we can't chance missing the next B.W. Webb or Matt Johnson!

 

[Alexander]

We are talking about consensus view going into the draft.

Sorry if that's too nuanced an approach for you. But what a player did in the NFL in hindsight has nothing to do with how the prospect was viewed coming into the draft.

Rg3 was a better prospect than Wentz. Much better. Deal with it.

I could care less about the hype. We know Griffin was an awful professional projection and all the experts got it wrong.

But yet we are supposed to sit here and take that same consensus opinion to discredit Wentz.

Logic is really not your strong suit.

 

[Alexander]

Been saying this for months. I do have an agenda.

Since when did having an opinion (read: "agenda") become such a bad thing?

Everyone has an agenda. I really don't understand why that became such a bad thing in terms of board culture, but apparently it is a big deal.

GASP! An "agenda"!

You might be voicing an opinion!

I want Romo's successor on the roster this year.. There are slim picking in the QB position in college the years coming up.. If the people who get fired and hired by evaluating talent think Wentz, Goff or Lynch are a future franchise QB. You take them at #4 and you don't look back..

The QB classes in upcoming years do not look to be any better than this one.

But of course, when we need that QB, then it will suddenly become the right time to invest that first round pick.

It almost always works out that way, don't you know?

 

[Bigdog]

That was because there was actually a really great QB prospect in RG3. Nobody in this draft has that type of reputation coming into this draft. Wentz is a really weak top qb prospect for a draft.

Opinions may vary on that

 

[Alexander]

I know it has little chance of happening, but it would be highly entertaining to take a QB at four and hear the deafening roar of some people slamming into reverse, endorsing the pick while denying they were against drafting a QB that high.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I could care less about the hype. We know Griffin was an awful professional projection and all the experts got it wrong.

But yet we are supposed to sit here and take that same consensus opinion to discredit Wentz.

Logic is really not your strong suit.

Luck was a consensus number 1 choice and franchise qb. Consensus gets these things right more than you'd like to admit. Especially in something as luck based as NFL player projection.

Nevermind none of that was what was being discussed. It was the draft haul we could expect in trading down. Some were saying they want a similar haul as the one the Rams got. Well given that Wentz isn't viewed as the same type of prospect as RG3 was at this time during their respective drafts our draft haul will be concomitantly smaller.

This should be self-evident.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I know it has little chance of happening, but it would be highly entertaining to take a QB at four and hear the deafening roar of some people slamming into reverse, endorsing the pick while denying they were against drafting a QB that high.

Is your world really that simple? I don't want any of these qbs at 4. If one of them is the pick I will hope fervently that that player is a franchise QB.

Because i'm a fan of the Cowboys. Not a fan of being right on a single player projection on a fan site.

We know where you stand though.

You'd rather be right and the Cowboys get it wrong...than be wrong while the Cowboys get it right. It's kind of disgusting actually.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

The QB classes in upcoming years do not look to be any better than this one.

But of course, when we need that QB, then it will suddenly become the right time to invest that first round pick.

It almost always works out that way, don't you know?

Not only do you have perfect insight and player analysis for players coming out of the draft this year....but you've apparently done considerable due diligence on hundreds of kids who are freshman, sophomores and juniors all across the nation.

Impressive.

 

[Alexander]

Is your world really that simple? I don't want any of these qbs at 4. If one of them is the pick I will hope fervently that that player is a franchise QB.

And then if it happened, you will conveniently forget all of your arguments to the contrary and endorse it.

Because i'm a fan of the Cowboys. Not a fan of being right on a single player projection on a fan site.

Love this rubbish. You are a fan of the Cowboys. More than anyone else here. LOL

And as far as "single player projection" I said "a QB". If a QB is there they deemed worthy, so be it.

But then again, they could just take Ramsey and make you pass out from excitement.

You'd rather be right and the Cowboys get it wrong...

More idiocy. Yes, I would totally hate it if the team proved me wrong.

It's kind of disgusting actually.

Awesome. As long as I disgust you as well as disagree, it is all serving to tell me I know I am on the right track.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If Goff is sitting on the board at 4 and we pass for some trade down scenario, I think that would be a very big mistake.

And for those saying wait till next year to draft a QB, the top prospect looks to be Watson, but he is more of a read option QB and not a pro style QB and Garrett's offense needs a pro style QB for it to work. Now if Garrett gets fired for missing the playoffs yet again, then maybe the new head coach will install a read option offense.

Also keep in mind that if Romo stays relatively healthy and plays 12+ games, we will not be drafting in the top five so how in the hell are we going to even get Watson if we even wanted to? Chip Kelly offered 3 first round picks to the Titans for Marriotta and they gave Chippy the bird and took Marriotta for themselves. We also saw what the Skins had to give up to move up and get RG3, so the point is it is not very cheap or very easy to move up and get a top level QB.

That is why I say that if you have a top 5 pick, you got to use it now on a franchise QB and not wait. It will be too expensive and too difficult to try to trade up for a top QB in the future and if Romo stays healthy, we will not have another opportunity to draft in the top 5 because Romo can win 5 or 6 games by himself just drawing plays up in the dirt and playing hero ball. Something our 3 backups last year failed miserably doing, see 1-11 record.

 

[Alexander]

Not only do you have perfect insight and player analysis for players coming out of the draft this year....but you've apparently done considerable due diligence on hundreds of kids who are freshman, sophomores and juniors all across the nation.

Impressive.

And, as usual, you refuse to bother to take a look and provide your insight which might contradict what you are deeming my "perfect insight and player analysis", which I have never claimed I have.

You just tear down what you don't agree with and without bringing anything else to the table.

Without question, you bring so little it is laughable.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

And, as usual, you refuse to bother to take a look and provide your insight which might contradict what you are deeming my "perfect insight and player analysis", which I have never claimed I have.

You just tear down what you don't agree with and without bringing anything else to the table.

Without question, you bring so little it is laughable.

Ok. So you made a claim that future drafts in upcoming years...lets say 3 don't look better than this one. Please provide actual proof that you didn't pull that assessment out of thin air.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

And then if it happened, you will conveniently forget all of your arguments to the contrary and endorse it.

What is there to endorse? Whoever the Cowboys select...even if it wasn't who i'd pick...i'd like that player to become an All-Pro.

Love this rubbish. You are a fan of the Cowboys. More than anyone else here. LOL

And as far as "single player projection" I said "a QB". If a QB is there they deemed worthy, so be it.

But then again, they could just take Ramsey and make you pass out from excitement.

Nothing of substance here.

More idiocy. Yes, I would totally hate it if the team proved me wrong.

Awesome. As long as I disgust you as well as disagree, it is all serving to tell me I know I am on the right track.

Ditto.

 

[fivetwos]

Just a gut feeling, but I don't think the team is very interested in Goff.

I think they like Wentz and would not pass on him at 4, but do not expect him to be there.

I think their ideal scenario is someone wanting to move into 4 for Goff, but there may be no takers, in which case it's Ramsey, Jack or Elliott, in that order.

 

[reddyuta]

Just a gut feeling, but I don't think the team is very interested in Goff.

I think they like Wentz and would not pass on him at 4, but do not expect him to be there.

I think their ideal scenario is someone wanting to move into 4 for Goff, but there may be no takers, in which case it's Ramsey, Jack or Elliott, in that order.

I think they like him enough to invite him for an in-depth interview at valley ranch.

 

[pjtoadie]

Yes the YouTube scouts influenced the Commanders to give up all those picks for a guy who wasn't highly sought after.

You sound ridiculous.

I was referring to what you were saying about the QB's this year...pay attention!