Jason Garrett and the Cowboys are not credible?

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I see the bias and agendas that have been displayed, but for a credible discussion, this fan would have to included:

Current Power Rankings:

5) Dallas Cowboys


Quarterback: B | Dak Prescott, Kellen Moore, Cooper Rush

As a legitimate franchise quarterback earning less than $1 million in salary, Prescott might just stand as the single biggest competitive advantage in NFL roster construction. After guiding the Cowboys to a 13-3 record en route to Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, he's going to have to expand his knowledge of NFL defenses and situational football, allowing Scott Linehan to open his playbook as defensive coaches adjust to the second-year wonder. Transitioning from Tony Romo to the physically limited Moore in the backup role is problematic to say the least. An injury to Prescott will end any realistic hopes of winning an improved NFC East.

Backfield: A | Ezekiel Elliott, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris

Elliott is a uniquely gifted, well-rounded back without an on-field weakness. He was the engine that made this offense go last season. Though far from what they once were, McFadden and Morris are perfectly adequate as second and third options.

Receiving corps: A- | Dez Bryant, Cole Beasley, Jason Witten (TE), Terrance Williams, Ryan Switzer, Brice Butler, Lucky Whitehead, James Hanna (TE), Geoff Swaim (TE)

It's an interesting mix. Bryant stands toe-to-toe with any receiver in the game when healthy, but he hasn't sustained that level of play since 2014. A first-down machine, Beasley was among the league's most valuable slot receivers last season. As reliable as Witten still is as a possession receiver, he offers nothing after the catch at this stage of his career. Will fourth-round pick Switzer replace Whitehead in the gadget role?

Offensive line: A | Tyron Smith, Jonathan Cooper, Travis Frederick, Zack Martin, La'el Collins, Byron Bell, Chaz Green, Joe Looney

Featuring a trio of All-Pros in Smith, Frederick and Martin, this offensive line was the gold standard with Doug Free and Ronald Leary solidifying right tackle and left guard, respectively. While Collins offers a higher ceiling than Free at tackle, the question is whether Leary's competent replacement can be found on this roster.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-10-offenses-in-2017-pats-steelers-look-scary


Post Draft Power Rankings:

5. Dallas Cowboys

2016 record: 13-3
Post-free agency ranking: No. 4
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As to no history in the playoffs...the Cowboys made it to the Division Level before losing, the past four playoff seasons - 2007, 2009, 2014, and 2016. That is over the past nine seasons.
Jason Garrett became head coach in 2010.

For the record, Jason inherited a team rebuilding team that currently is it's development. But on the coat tails of teams in 2014 and 2016. Those two teams compiled records of 12-4 and 13-3.

Both of these two teams lost to Green Bay at the Division Level of the playoffs. The difference in scores were: 26-21 (5 points); and 34-31 (3 points). But the first Green Bay victory came after the Dez Bryant score that was ruled a non-running touchdown, but a 'passing' failure. Then, the past loss to Green Bay, a loss in the final seconds of the game.

Those labeling any set of stats as indicating complete failure, just don't understand football or team values.

Jason Garrett has developed a strong team, and one that is capable of competing for all the marbles.


The winningest teams over the past ten seasons:

1. New England Patriots — 122 wins (9 playoff appearances, 1st in AFC East)

2. Indianapolis Colts — 110 wins (9, 1st)

3. Pittsburgh Steelers — 101 wins (6, 1st)

4. Green Bay Packers — 98 wins (7, 1st)

5. San Diego Chargers — 97 wins (5, 1st)

6. Baltimore Ravens — 96 wins (7, 2nd)

7. Denver Broncos — 95 wins (5, 2nd)

8. Dallas Cowboys — 93 wins (4, 1st)

9. Seattle Seahawks — 91 wins (7, 1st)

10. New Orleans Saints — 90 wins (5, 1st)
 

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Wow...we are the 8th winningest team in the last 10 seasons. Doesn't feel like it with all the 8-8 seasons sprinkled in there.

Thank you, Tony Romo!
We only really had two losing season and three 11+ win season. If you go back 10 years and include our 13 win 2007, we may be higher
 

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I don't want to be 'that guy', but we didn't get to see Tony Romo play without Garrett in his ear pretty much since he started (be it OC or HC). If we don't have success with Dak in the next couple years, I don't want Garret to have the same 'rebuilding' excuse again. Some coaches simply can't win in the playoffs, when better coaches will adjust on the fly and you have to respond in kind. We have such a solid base here (Oline, Dak, Zeke, young athletic Secondary and solid tackles), we can't have Garrett learning from his mistakes again and again. He's getting better as a coach, but that was at the expense of Romo's prime years and health. Don't want the same to happen with Dak
 

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I don't want to be 'that guy', but we didn't get to see Tony Romo play without Garrett in his ear pretty much since he started (be it OC or HC). If we don't have success with Dak in the next couple years, I don't want Garret to have the same 'rebuilding' excuse again. Some coaches simply can't win in the playoffs, when better coaches will adjust on the fly and you have to respond in kind. We have such a solid base here (Oline, Dak, Zeke, young athletic Secondary and solid tackles), we can't have Garrett learning from his mistakes again and again. He's getting better as a coach, but that was at the expense of Romo's prime years and health. Don't want the same to happen with Dak

You really think that the run of the Cowboys with Tony Romo was all about Jason Garrett developing? I sure don't, it was all about recovering from bad cap decisions and rebuilding the core of a team ever since the lockout season of the NFL. This has taken the past five seasons to get their heads soundly above water...and the management of a strong team begins now.

But Jason solidly won the NFC East, 2 of the last 3 seasons. A Championship run, always begins with just that...
 

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You really think that the run of the Cowboys with Tony Romo was all about Jason Garrett developing? I sure don't, it was all about recovering from bad cap decisions and rebuilding the core of a team ever since the lockout season of the NFL. This has taken the past five seasons to get their heads soundly above water...and the management of a strong team begins now.

But Jason solidly won the NFC East, 2 of the last 3 seasons. A Championship run, always begins with just that...

There were issues with his time and game management in the Green Bay game. He's still 'learning on the fly'. I like how he's turned the talent over, that's great (though I give McCray more credit for it), but making the playoffs are opportunities. He's failed at all of them. Teams with less skill that ours have made it to the super bowl
 

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There were issues with his time and game management in the Green Bay game. He's still 'learning on the fly'. I like how he's turned the talent over, that's great (though I give McCray more credit for it), but making the playoffs are opportunities. He's failed at all of them. Teams with less skill that ours have made it to the super bowl
Just what were the management problems and which side of the ball? Who made it and was worse?
 

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They are credible right now? No, gotta prove it to the league. Lets see what they do this year and next, than we ll talk. 1 and done in the playoffs with a 13-3 record does not scream credible.
 

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They are credible right now? No, gotta prove it to the league. Lets see what they do this year and next, than we ll talk. 1 and done in the playoffs with a 13-3 record does not scream credible.

Oh, I'm sure...we'll see how many coaching staffs actually blow off the Cowboys, as you say...unproven and all.
 
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They are credible right now? No, gotta prove it to the league. Lets see what they do this year and next, than we ll talk. 1 and done in the playoffs with a 13-3 record does not scream credible.
I guess it depends on what credible means.

The predictions from CBSSports (Prisco, La Confora, Brinson and others) are unanimous: a major drop off to 8 or 9 wins in 2017 for the Cowboys. Meanwhile, the Eagles and Giants take big steps forward. The Commanders too. The Carson Wentz bandwagon is still overflowing.

So I guess credibility is still lacking in a big way.
 

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Oh, I'm sure...we'll see how many coaching staffs actually blow off the Cowboys, as you say...unproven and all.

Because as everyone knows, you win the SB based off your season record. oh wait, ok your season record and past playoff victories, ok wait. You win the Sb based off your assumption? You can win it , how again? I r iz confused, because i thought you won it by winning in the playoffs? Is there another way you know of? Can they do it by stats yet? Say you get less points than the other team BUT if you have say time of possesion you win? Is that possible?

Can you win if you ask nicely? Ooo oo, i know what you mean, when the Giants won with a 9-7 season record, i guess if the right combination comes up you can win it that way.

Trust me, after the win, Packer coaches were talking about how they were sweating the Cowboys the whole week. I think one said he had to check into a mental institution because the fear of the Cowboys defense was just to overwhelming for him. I odnt even think hes out yet. He was mumbling how Crawford tore up the NFL and he just couldnt find anyone to stop him.

Garrett is so feared with his dazzling array of plays, teams take him serious as a heart attack.
 

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I guess it depends on what credible means.

The predictions from CBSSports (Prisco, La Confora, Brinson and others) are unanimous: a major drop off to 8 or 9 wins in 2017 for the Cowboys. Meanwhile, the Eagles and Giants take big steps forward. The Commanders too. The Carson Wentz bandwagon is still overflowing.

So I guess credibility is still lacking in a big way.

Perfect response by you , it is "how do you define it" since no one wants to set the parameters because "its hard work" than you gotta just flail around until a majority agrees. Thats why i ignore them, now if someone says credible based off "playoff wins" than again, the Cowboys come up short. Something that says "its defined by this parameter" is the Cowboys credible? Sure than you have a debate. Right now, im considering playoff wins, simple, and defined. If someone elses throws up another definition, than you have something to talk about.
 

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They are credible right now? No, gotta prove it to the league. Lets see what they do this year and next, than we ll talk. 1 and done in the playoffs with a 13-3 record does not scream credible.
When the so-called credible team is embroiled in cheating scandal after cheating scandal and then awarded a Lombardi trophy for their efforts, what message does that send to the young fans of the game? Brady is suspended for his participation in cheating and now he is treated like a football god. What is credibility these days?
 

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as far as playoff wins the dallas cowboys haven't been relevant for over 20 years now to me its what you do in the playoffs that matter that's where you get your credibility from winning in the regular season don't get a lot of play or talked about much until you can win consistently year after year and make noise in the playoffs the media and other fans really don't pay lots of attention to you because of how the cowboy are up and down from year to year most media talking heads have already moved on to either the Commanders or giants to win the division
 
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