News: Jason Garrett: From lame-duck Cowboys coach to secure leader

[Doomsday101]

The way JG has rebuilt the roster the last 3 years is pretty amazing. To not have a losing season while doing it is amazing especially given the injury situation on defense in '12 and '13. To keep Jerry under control and not give out any more bad contracts is pretty amazing. Still a lame duck? Far from it. Very far.

Only way I saw Garrett getting canned would have been the team quitting on him as they did with Wade. Had Dallas turned around last season and put up a 5-11 record or 6-10 as some predicted here that could have caused Jason to be fired.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He's still a lame duck.

An Oline that could impose their will on people doesn't mean he can coach.

Our guys are just better then what most teams have. If it came down to just coaching we'd be screwed because we are way behind all of the top teams when it comes to creativity and being a step ahead.

Because of course the head coach whose inclination is towards offense had no part in acquiring and developing the players on the OL.

In the real world, we include prospects drafted and developed under a coaches program as part of their success not to the exclusion of it.

 

[waving monkey]

He's still a lame duck.

An Oline that could impose their will on people doesn't mean he can coach.

Our guys are just better then what most teams have. If it came down to just coaching we'd be screwed because we are way behind all of the top teams when it comes to creativity and being a step ahead.

Two things, yes thats right players play the game not coaches.
Secondly,if you believe your post I got no help for you.
Some people just dont like Garrett and thats the way of life.
I will guarantee you anybody in the business professionally would disagree with you.

 

[arglebargle]

I see a lot of folks trying to define fallback positions from their 'Garret is Terrible!' stances of the past. I expect this to be more and more difficult to sustain.

 

[CATCH17]

Two things, yes thats right players play the game not coaches.
Secondly,if you believe your post I got no help for you.
Some people just dont like Garrett and thats the way of life.
I will guarantee you anybody in the business professionally would disagree with you.

Dallas has had teams that were much better then our opponents and we have gone home losers because our passing schemes continuously play into their hands with 25 yard routes down the sideline.

The screen and pick passes that almost all teams are using is not a thing here.

Our idea of a short route starts and stop with a hitch route.

We let defenses dictate pretty much everything we do and thrown absolutely nothing at them that could cause to actually have to think.

 

[waving monkey]

Dallas has had teams that were much better then our opponents and we have gone home losers because our passing schemes continuously play into their hands with 25 yard routes down the sideline.

The screen and pick passes that almost all teams are using is not a thing here.

Our idea of a short route starts and stop with a hitch route.

We let defenses dictate pretty much everything we do and thrown absolutely nothing at them that could cause to actually have to think.

Lindman was a first year OC is here is his regular season stats that resulted in a 12-4 season and division winner,sorry if thats not good enough for ya. First year coordinators tend to keep it simple.
Oh yea that defensive line was just full of talent last year
and we had a rookie fourth round LBer starting at several positions.


Total First Downs
First Downs (Rushing-Passing-By-Penalty)
Third Down Conversions
Fourth Down Conversions
Total Offensive Yards
Offense (Plays - Average Yards)
Total Rushing Yards
Rushing (Plays - Average Yards)
Total Passing Yards
Passing (Comp - Att - INT - Avg)
Sacks
Field Goals
Touchdowns
Touchdowns (Rushing - Passing - Returns - Defensive)
Time of Posession
Turnover Ratio
DALLAS COWBOYSOPPONENTS
Total First Downs342315
First Downs (Rushing-Passing-By-Penalty)106-205-3186-195-34
Third Down Conversions95/20189/204
Fourth Down Conversions3/610/20
Total Offensive Yards61385681
Offense (Plays - Average Yards)1008-6.05970-5.81
Total Rushing Yards23541650
Rushing (Plays - Average Yards)508-4.6392-4.2
Total Passing Yards40084187
Passing (Comp - Att - INT - Avg)328-476-11-8.4371-558-18-7.5
Sacks3028
Field Goals25/2916/18
Touchdowns5643
Touchdowns (Rushing - Passing - Returns - Defensive)16-37-0-318-22-0-3
Time of Posession32:5128:02
Turnover Ratio+6

 

[robjay04]

Dallas has had teams that were much better then our opponents and we have gone home losers because our passing schemes continuously play into their hands with 25 yard routes down the sideline.

The screen and pick passes that almost all teams are using is not a thing here.

Our idea of a short route starts and stop with a hitch route.

We let defenses dictate pretty much everything we do and thrown absolutely nothing at them that could cause to actually have to think.

Our offensive production has never been a problem under Garrett. I don't have the numbers but I would bet we have had a top 5 offense overall since he has took over and we have not always been as talented.

 

[MagicMan]

Garrett a secure leader is still in question.......hasn't won anything yet. But he is light years from his status a couple years ago. All we ever wanted was for the Cowboys to have a competent OC, DC, HC and GM who stay in their lanes. We had a GM who wanted to be HC, a HC who wanted to be OC, and OC in name only, and DC who didn't know who the heck to answer to. Now we have a FO doing its job, GM getting help from his son and Will McClay, OC calling his plays, DC calling his plays, and a HC playing the Jimmy role.

Nothing wrong with the Jimmy role, some say he should be in the ROH, and some even in the HOF. But Garrett still needs to get some skins on the wall and let history define his position and status as a leader. Now is a good time to start as any.

 

[erod]

I was dogpiled for a long time over Garrett. It's nice to not have to defend him anymore.

Same with Romo.

Although it was a great way to separate the clued-ins from the know-nothings.

 

[SuspectCorner]

He's still a lame duck.

An Oline that could impose their will on people doesn't mean he can coach.

Our guys are just better then what most teams have. If it came down to just coaching we'd be screwed because we are way behind all of the top teams when it comes to creativity and being a step ahead.

What saved Garrett was that HE had an architecture in mind - a vision for the type of team he wanted to build. A team very similar to the championship teams HE played on back in the 90s. A team that exerted it's will on opponents - starting from-the-trenches-back on both sides of the ball. I'd say it was obviously an easy sell to Jerry and Stephen Jones - because it is an architecture well underway and stunningly visible during each and every draft and free agency signing period the last three or four years. And it is a structure very familiar to Jerry and Stephen. Jason is emulating a mentor - Jimmy Johnson.

 

[CATCH17]

What saved Garrett was that HE had an architecture in mind - a vision for the type of team he wanted to build. A team very similar to the championship teams HE played on back in the 90s. A team that exerted it's will on opponents - starting from-the-trenches-back on both sides of the ball. I'd say it was obviously an easy sell to Jerry and Stephen Jones - because it is an architecture well underway and stunningly visible during U.S. each and every draft and free agency signing period the last three or four years. And it is a structure very familiar to Jerry and Stephen. Jason is emulating a mentor - Jimmy Johnson.

Oh brother.

He lucked into his vision then because Tyron was the only guy we had targeted with the pick we had.

Frederick and Martin were just guys we settled for.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Oh brother.

He lucked into his vision then because Tyron was the only guy we had targeted with the pick we had.

Frederick and Martin were just guys we settled for.

Oh, brother - if THAT (Frederick and Martin) is 'settling' - then Dallas should settle EVERY year.

 

[Idgit]

Oh brother.

He lucked into his vision then because Tyron was the only guy we had targeted with the pick we had.

Frederick and Martin were just guys we settled for.

Saying that with a straight face? Can't tell over the internet.

 

[Tommy]

Oh brother.

He lucked into his vision then because Tyron was the only guy we had targeted with the pick we had.

Frederick and Martin were just guys we settled for.

Your embarrassing yourself.

 

[waving monkey]

Oh brother.

He lucked into his vision then because Tyron was the only guy we had targeted with the pick we had.

Frederick and Martin were just guys we settled for.

You can say that about ALL good teams that pick after the first over-all pick

 

[CATCH17]

Saying that with a straight face? Can't tell over the internet.

Wait a minute...

So you guys really think Frederick and Martin were our first options?

Are you joking...?

We settled for those players because all of our main targets had been picked.

 

[CATCH17]

You can say that about ALL good teams that pick after the first over-all pick

We took best player available but these comments about Garrett envisioning this are ridiculous.

 

[CATCH17]

Your embarrassing yourself.

No.. You're not using common sense.

Dallas selected Frederick and Martin because that is how the draft fell to them.


It wasn't some vision that Garrett had in a dream that he brought to reality.

 

[CATCH17]

Lindman was a first year OC is here is his regular season stats that resulted in a 12-4 season and division winner,sorry if thats not good enough for ya. First year coordinators tend to keep it simple.
Oh yea that defensive line was just full of talent last year
and we had a rookie fourth round LBer starting at several positions.


Total First Downs
First Downs (Rushing-Passing-By-Penalty)
Third Down Conversions
Fourth Down Conversions
Total Offensive Yards
Offense (Plays - Average Yards)
Total Rushing Yards
Rushing (Plays - Average Yards)
Total Passing Yards
Passing (Comp - Att - INT - Avg)
Sacks
Field Goals
Touchdowns
Touchdowns (Rushing - Passing - Returns - Defensive)
Time of Posession
Turnover Ratio
DALLAS COWBOYSOPPONENTS
Total First Downs342315
First Downs (Rushing-Passing-By-Penalty)106-205-3186-195-34
Third Down Conversions95/20189/204
Fourth Down Conversions3/610/20
Total Offensive Yards61385681
Offense (Plays - Average Yards)1008-6.05970-5.81
Total Rushing Yards23541650
Rushing (Plays - Average Yards)508-4.6392-4.2
Total Passing Yards40084187
Passing (Comp - Att - INT - Avg)328-476-11-8.4371-558-18-7.5
Sacks3028
Field Goals25/2916/18
Touchdowns5643
Touchdowns (Rushing - Passing - Returns - Defensive)16-37-0-318-22-0-3
Time of Posession32:5128:02
Turnover Ratio+6

The Cowboys offense was really good last year because of our ability to impose our will on the ground.

I don't care what the numbers say about the pass game.. It's still too Romo dependent and we don't use the exact same screen and pick plays that all of the top teams run multiple times per game.

We have the best YAC receiver in the NFL and we're sending him 25 yards down field every play into double coverage and letting the defense dictate what we do.


And Linehan was using Garretts scheme because Garrett was a horrid playcaller that couldn't figure out how to be balanced. First year OC.. Come on. It was JAson's offense.

 

[waving monkey]

We took best player available but these comments about Garrett envisioning this are ridiculous.

Because a plan has various detours doesn't not discredit the plan.
They had intentions to build in the first with that rush LB but Baltimore took him.
We took the next option ,thats what you do.
The Red plan was about rebuilding all the team as it came to them.They were not
myopic focused on one position nor one year but long term.

Red did envision this; he played the hand that was dealt to him. Thats a plan.
Thats what any good organization does and we are finally doing under Red.