Jason Garrett may be Princeton-Smart, but he's FOOTBALL-DUMB!

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Michael Irvin Quote on Garrett’s ill-advised play calling with the game on the line: "Don't throw the ball to Champ Bailey," Irvin said on his ESPN radio show. "As much as I hated it, we didn't always throw the ball at Deion Sanders...As hot as it would make me, we wouldn't go at Deion.

Good quote by Irvin. But I'll one-up him. In those last 2 plays of the game, WR Roy Williams and RB Marion Barber were on the sidelines. Why? Injured? Perhaps! But the best offensive receiver on the filed was Witten.

Bennet by the way was on the sidelines, and he was NOT injured. ON THE SIDELINES! Aare you friggin kidding me Garrett?

And what does Garret do with Witten, the team's best WR on those last two pure-passing downs? That's right; Garrett keeps Witten in to block.

With the game on the line in sure passing situations, Witten is in to block? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME GARRETT?

This Bozo-The-Coach did THE SAME THING in the Giants playoff-game loss, and IT DIDN'T WORK THEN EITHER!

YOU DON’T KEEP WITTEN IN TO BLOCK ON PURE PASSING DOWNS WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE, WHILE YOUR OTHER POTENTIAL BLOCKING TE IS ON THE SIDELINES WATCHING HURD, AUSTIN AND CRAYTON (THE THREE WR STOOGES) PLAY THE PRIMARY RECEIVER ROLES!

And how does Garret Make Hurd the hot route against Champ Bailey? CHAMP FRIGGIN BAILEY!

AAAAAAHHHHHGGGGHH! GArrett, you flippin IDIOT! :bang2:

Absolutely no learning going on; no accountability either!

Here'e the bottom line: Jason Garrett may be Princeton-Smart, but he's FOOTBALL-DUMB!
 

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i just don't get it. all we had to do was dink & dunk our way down the field in the 4th qtr. this would have allowed romo to settle down (he was badly rattled), allowed choice to get into space, & helped the running game get back on track.

i'm out of answers for garrett; but i'm also out of patience with him. he makes mistakes that a rookie would quickly learn from. i gave him until this season before i pronounced judgment upon him...he needs to be relieved of his job...
 

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deepBLUE;2993892 said:
i just don't get it. all we had to do was dink & dunk our way down the field in the 4th qtr. this would have allowed romo to settle down (he was badly rattled), allowed choice to get into space, & helped the running game get back on track.

i'm out of answers for garrett; but i'm also out of patience with him. he makes mistakes that a rookie would quickly learn from. i gave him until this season before i pronounced judgment upon him...he needs to be relieved of his job...

The thing also is that Garrett was on his way to establishing a run in the first half. But in the secpond half, Denver re-committed to stopping it so what does Garret do? He completely abandons it and goes into a one-dimensional passing attack with a QB that struggled with accuracy all game long.

Instead, Garret took the bait. And by abandioning the run, I mean that there was no attempt to utilize the run to set up the pass. There was no play-action passing; NO COORDINATION. It really was just a pure passing attack with a run or two thrown in that didn't belong.

The thing that bothers me most about it is that that's what Denver wanted. They wanted Garret to go to a pure passing game because htey knew that with their secondary, versus our struggling QB (on this day) and sub-par WRs, that they would have an advantage. So they loaded up on stopping the run knowing it would bait Garret into the pass. Now by doing that they exposed thenselves to weakness against the play-action pass, but I guess they were willing to take that risk knowing tha Garret would not be football-smart enough to go after it. they were right, just like may rookie coaching staffs before them.
 

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yeah, they stacked the line of scrimmage in the 2nd half to stop the run...but you can't do that without exposing yourself to other dangers. garrett took advantage of none of them...and instead, played right into their hand.

how 'bout an adjustment to their adjustment, eh?

you simply have to utilize a short passing game when your qb is getting sacked, & throwing all over the field. as a coach, you MUST help your qb get some confidence back...7-step drops won't do it.
 

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Not only did we abandon the run, but we abandoned the screen pass, which had been among our most successful offensive weapons this year. A couple of screens to Choice or Bennett (yeah, remember him?) in space would have opened up things in the running game a little bit in the 2nd half after Denver committed to slowing it down. Instead, we continually try to force throws down the field time and time again. Its amazing.
 

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:hammer: Great post A.F., 100% approval rating.
AMERICAS_FAN;2993805 said:
Michael Irvin Quote on Garrett’s ill-advised play calling with the game on the line: "Don't throw the ball to Champ Bailey," Irvin said on his ESPN radio show. "As much as I hated it, we didn't always throw the ball at Deion Sanders...As hot as it would make me, we wouldn't go at Deion.

Good quote by Irvin. But I'll one-up him. In those last 2 plays of the game, WR Roy Williams and RB Marion Barber were on the sidelines. Why? Injured? Perhaps! But the best offensive receiver on the filed was Witten.

Bennet by the way was on the sidelines, and he was NOT injured. ON THE SIDELINES! Aare you friggin kidding me Garrett?

And what does Garret do with Witten, the team's best WR on those last two pure-passing downs? That's right; Garrett keeps Witten in to block.

With the game on the line in sure passing situations, Witten is in to block? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME GARRETT?

This Bozo-The-Coach did THE SAME THING in the Giants playoff-game loss, and IT DIDN'T WORK THEN EITHER!

YOU DON’T KEEP WITTEN IN TO BLOCK ON PURE PASSING DOWNS WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE, WHILE YOUR OTHER POTENTIAL BLOCKING TE IS ON THE SIDELINES WATCHING HURD, AUSTIN AND CRAYTON (THE THREE WR STOOGES) PLAY THE PRIMARY RECEIVER ROLES!

And how does Garret Make Hurd the hot route against Champ Bailey? CHAMP FRIGGIN BAILEY!

AAAAAAHHHHHGGGGHH! GArrett, you flippin IDIOT! :bang2:

Absolutely no learning going on; no accountability either!

Here'e the bottom line: Jason Garrett may be Princeton-Smart, but he's FOOTBALL-DUMB!
 

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A+ post.

Troys Waterboy (ie. Jerry's project) is making Switzer look like an NFL braniac

ignoring the obvious is pathetic.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2993966 said:
The thing also is that Garrett was on his way to establishing a run in the first half. But in the secpond half, Denver re-committed to stopping it so what does Garret do? He completely abandons it and goes into a one-dimensional passing attack with a QB that struggled with accuracy all game long.

Instead, Garret took the bait. And by abandioning the run, I mean that there was no attempt to utilize the run to set up the pass. There was no play-action passing; NO COORDINATION. It really was just a pure passing attack with a run or two thrown in that didn't belong.

The thing that bothers me most about it is that that's what Denver wanted. They wanted Garret to go to a pure passing game because htey knew that with their secondary, versus our struggling QB (on this day) and sub-par WRs, that they would have an advantage. So they loaded up on stopping the run knowing it would bait Garret into the pass. Now by doing that they exposed thenselves to weakness against the play-action pass, but I guess they were willing to take that risk knowing tha Garret would not be football-smart enough to go after it. they were right, just like may rookie coaching staffs before them.
That was something I noticed too with both QBs, Romo, and Orton struggling with accuracy because it was kind of windy in the stadium.

But Garrett, as usual ran away from what worked going to his pass happy approach with the wind being a factor to me with pass he does need to be fired for this crap.
 

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links18;2994071 said:
Not only did we abandon the run, but we abandoned the screen pass, which had been among our most successful offensive weapons this year. A couple of screens to Choice or Bennett (yeah, remember him?) in space would have opened up things in the running game a little bit in the 2nd half after Denver committed to slowing it down. Instead, we continually try to force throws down the field time and time again. Its amazing.
right on the money....

a few screens, a few outs, a few dump-offs; mix in some draw plays...& you can work your way down the field. you give your d some rest, you calm romo down, & you might even get that elusive 2-score lead....

i've watched garrett make these mistakes for too long, now....it doesn't make sense.
 

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He has been figured out. Remember pierce calling out the plays in the giants game? Then the same thing happened again last week on an audible at the goal line.
 

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we never make adjustments, that's why we're always out-coached.
wish we still had sean payton.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2993966 said:
The thing also is that Garrett was on his way to establishing a run in the first half. But in the secpond half, Denver re-committed to stopping it so what does Garret do? He completely abandons it and goes into a one-dimensional passing attack with a QB that struggled with accuracy all game long.

Let's see, Dallas established the run in the first half, forcing the Broncos to stack the line against the run. And then Dallas started passing more. Yeah, that's crazy. :rolleyes:

The whole point of establishing the run is to open up the passing game. That's what they did. The problem was that Romo started throwing every pass high and away.

And they weren't completely one-dimensional, either. For example, on the two drives before the final one, they did mix runs with passes (including screen passes) - what happened was a holding penalty on one long run that forced them into a 2nd-and-17, and then a -3 yard run by Choice that put them in a 2nd-and-13.
 

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Garrett, genius thinking:

"There's no way in hell Champ Bailey expects me to target him 18 times. I've got him now!"

"Already targeted you in the endzone. End-game right here, another pass right to you! Catch you unawares!"
 

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I honestly cant believe how blatantly dumb people in here continue to be over this.

Have any of you actually ever PLAYED football? If so, then I cant believe some of you believe some of this stuff that gets spewed.

Last time folks, the offensive coordinator does not decide what player the ball is thrown to on a particular play. Further, Romo is not a Quincy Carter type of bonehead QB that is incapable of reading the field, Romo has clearly demontrated in the past that he CAN do it and is quite good at it. So it isnt like a gameplan or plays calls are drawn up in masse to "dumb down" the offense for him.

Garrett designs & calls the plays, but the QB is taking the snaps, making the reads and actually THROWING the ball. He doesnt say to himself "hmmm, Garrett says I MUST throw the ball at this one guy or else". It isnt Playstation, where someone is pushing a button and telling Romo where to throw. He's doing it on his own.

I know this is just painfully hard for some people to accept, but right now our QB is not playing good, period. It's not the coordinator, its not the receivers, its not the wind or the humidity. The guys simply not throwing the ball with accuracy and is missing open guys on alot of plays. It hasnt happened once or twice, its been all season long. Some plays thats missing his intended receiver, and some plays its from a lack of making the right read. Now he might be (and in my opinion is) hurt physicially, or I suppose its possible he has regressed (though I doubt it) but he simply isnt playing well. We'd be 4-0 easily if he had even played AVERAGE football all 4 games.
 

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dbair1967;2994332 said:
I honestly cant believe how blatantly dumb people in here continue to be over this.

Have any of you actually ever PLAYED football? If so, then I cant believe some of you believe some of this stuff that gets spewed.

Last time folks, the offensive coordinator does not decide what player the ball is thrown to on a particular play. Further, Romo is not a Quincy Carter type of bonehead QB that is incapable of reading the field, Romo has clearly demontrated in the past that he CAN do it and is quite good at it. So it isnt like a gameplan or plays calls are drawn up in masse to "dumb down" the offense for him.

Garrett designs & calls the plays, but the QB is taking the snaps, making the reads and actually THROWING the ball. He doesnt say to himself "hmmm, Garrett says I MUST throw the ball at this one guy or else". It isnt Playstation, where someone is pushing a button and telling Romo where to throw. He's doing it on his own.

I know this is just painfully hard for some people to accept, but right now our QB is not playing good, period. It's not the coordinator, its not the receivers, its not the wind or the humidity. The guys simply not throwing the ball with accuracy and is missing open guys on alot of plays. It hasnt happened once or twice, its been all season long. Some plays thats missing his intended receiver, and some plays its from a lack of making the right read. Now he might be (and in my opinion is) hurt physicially, or I suppose its possible he has regressed (though I doubt it) but he simply isnt playing well. We'd be 4-0 easily if he had even played AVERAGE football all 4 games.
good honk...and you think WE are oversimplifying? screen-pass. that refutes a large portion of your post. get your qb calmed down with a short passing attack. how is this stupid? get your qb into a rhythm when he's all over the place. how is this ignorant?

garrett calls the plays, and if he calls a screen, or dinks & dunks, or doesn't give up on the rushing attack, or calls some outs...then he's directing exactly what kind of attack romo is authorized to carry out...

yes, romo is playing ugly football...it's garrett's job to address that, & put him into positions to succeed. endless 7-step drops?!
 

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deepBLUE;2994374 said:
good honk...and you think WE are oversimplifying? screen-pass. that refutes a large portion of your post. get your qb calmed down with a short passing attack. how is this stupid? get your qb into a rhythm when he's all over the place. how is this ignorant?

garrett calls the plays, and if he calls a screen, or dinks & dunks, or doesn't give up on the rushing attack, or calls some outs...then he's directing exactly what kind of attack romo is authorized to carry out...

yes, romo is playing ugly football...it's garrett's job to address that, & put him into positions to succeed. endless 7-step drops?!

What game were people watching? We ran tons of screens and draws yesterday.
 

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What game were people watching? We ran tons of screens and draws yesterday.

and almost all the completions for three games have been short throws...its amazing

we really do have a group of dumb fans that for some reason believe every play has 5 wr's run straight down the field 30+ yds
 

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deepBLUE;2994374 said:
good honk...and you think WE are oversimplifying? screen-pass. that refutes a large portion of your post. get your qb calmed down with a short passing attack. how is this stupid? get your qb into a rhythm when he's all over the place. how is this ignorant?

They did that, several times. In fact almost all the passes completed for 3 games have been short throws. He completed 25 balls yesterday and 20+ the other night vs Carolina. Very few have traveled over 10 yds in the air.

garrett calls the plays, and if he calls a screen, or dinks & dunks, or doesn't give up on the rushing attack, or calls some outs...then he's directing exactly what kind of attack romo is authorized to carry out...

it doesnt matter what he calls, you people will find something to complain about...

yes, romo is playing ugly football...it's garrett's job to address that, & put him into positions to succeed. endless 7-step drops?

Endless 7 step drops? huh? What games are you watching? Certainly not ours.

Garrett's job is to design plays that take advantage of the talent at hand, and then make play calls that they believe can be executed with success. When I see receivers open and the QB either overthrowing them or throwing it into coverage elsewhere, thats on the QB.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2993805 said:
Michael Irvin Quote on Garrett’s ill-advised play calling with the game on the line: "Don't throw the ball to Champ Bailey," Irvin said on his ESPN radio show. "As much as I hated it, we didn't always throw the ball at Deion Sanders...As hot as it would make me, we wouldn't go at Deion.

Good quote by Irvin. But I'll one-up him. In those last 2 plays of the game, WR Roy Williams and RB Marion Barber were on the sidelines. Why? Injured? Perhaps! But the best offensive receiver on the filed was Witten.

Bennet by the way was on the sidelines, and he was NOT injured. ON THE SIDELINES! Aare you friggin kidding me Garrett?

And what does Garret do with Witten, the team's best WR on those last two pure-passing downs? That's right; Garrett keeps Witten in to block.

With the game on the line in sure passing situations, Witten is in to block? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME GARRETT?

This Bozo-The-Coach did THE SAME THING in the Giants playoff-game loss, and IT DIDN'T WORK THEN EITHER!

YOU DON’T KEEP WITTEN IN TO BLOCK ON PURE PASSING DOWNS WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE, WHILE YOUR OTHER POTENTIAL BLOCKING TE IS ON THE SIDELINES WATCHING HURD, AUSTIN AND CRAYTON (THE THREE WR STOOGES) PLAY THE PRIMARY RECEIVER ROLES!

And how does Garret Make Hurd the hot route against Champ Bailey? CHAMP FRIGGIN BAILEY!

AAAAAAHHHHHGGGGHH! GArrett, you flippin IDIOT! :bang2:

Absolutely no learning going on; no accountability either!

Here'e the bottom line: Jason Garrett may be Princeton-Smart, but he's FOOTBALL-DUMB!

Wonderful. This is, what, the third or forth posting making the same point. You've found a great quote and intend to beat it to earth, justified or not.
 

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dbair1967;2994332 said:
I honestly cant believe how blatantly dumb people in here continue to be over this.

Have any of you actually ever PLAYED football? If so, then I cant believe some of you believe some of this stuff that gets spewed.

Last time folks, the offensive coordinator does not decide what player the ball is thrown to on a particular play. Further, Romo is not a Quincy Carter type of bonehead QB that is incapable of reading the field, Romo has clearly demontrated in the past that he CAN do it and is quite good at it. So it isnt like a gameplan or plays calls are drawn up in masse to "dumb down" the offense for him.

Garrett designs & calls the plays, but the QB is taking the snaps, making the reads and actually THROWING the ball. He doesnt say to himself "hmmm, Garrett says I MUST throw the ball at this one guy or else". It isnt Playstation, where someone is pushing a button and telling Romo where to throw. He's doing it on his own.

I know this is just painfully hard for some people to accept, but right now our QB is not playing good, period. It's not the coordinator, its not the receivers, its not the wind or the humidity. The guys simply not throwing the ball with accuracy and is missing open guys on alot of plays. It hasnt happened once or twice, its been all season long. Some plays thats missing his intended receiver, and some plays its from a lack of making the right read. Now he might be (and in my opinion is) hurt physicially, or I suppose its possible he has regressed (though I doubt it) but he simply isnt playing well. We'd be 4-0 easily if he had even played AVERAGE football all 4 games.

Agreed, but it would help Romo if he didn't have to line up some players before the snap. So he can concentrate on the D lined up in front of him. We have some players that supposedly make funny tweets but cant play for.......
 
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