Jason Garrett quickly becoming one of the longest term head coaches

[Eric_Boyer]

I still can't bring myself to like Garrett personally. His first few years he was so arrogant and acted like a petulant child, doing and saying anything to preserve himself above all else.

complete nonsense, as usual

 

[theogt]

I think if Garrett got the coordinators early on his his career as a head coach, which I think he wasn't experienced enough for to begin with, we could have done better than 8-8 while we ushered in his vision of what the team would look like.

You're probably right, but the team bought into the idea of him being some sort of genius, which he isn't.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I'm glad Jason brought Linehan in. It probably saved his job. Is it a coincidence the offense put up its best numbers in 3rd down efficiency in Linehan's first year? I don't think linehan is some genius. Evident by his time in Detroit and St. Louis. But he knows the passing game. Add the leagues best rushing attack and you have something.

Now Jason is a great leader and CEO type coach that delegates to his assistants and doesnt micro manage them.

 

[waving monkey]

He's a good Monday - Saturday coach.

Gameday he offers nothing.

It is unacceptable to be so basic at the NFL level from a scheme standpoint as we are.

Luckily we built a line that can impose their will on teams but if it ever comes down to play design it's usually just us hoping Romo can make a play outside of the scheme.

Red has improved every year and by now that statement is baseless. We paid the price for his OJT but we are past that
and any dissidence on Red's current level of HC skills is very curious . Thank god Red is our coach and has elevated our entire Cowboy experience.

 

[joseephuss]

I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not a huge fan of Jason Garrett, though I do appreciate what he has put together here, and what he is putting together.

I'm actually glad that he was retained... yeah, shocker, I know. I agree with the sentiment that head coaching and QB stability results in wins, and it results in playoff success. Keeping systems in place make it easier to have success from year to year. While other teams are trying to implement new offenses and defenses, we're focused on getting better and executing better.

One of my biggest criticisms of Garret is that it seemed as though he was blocking some NFL quality coaching talent from coming here, particularly with Norv Turner and maybe even Dan Reeves back in 2009.

I think having Linehan and Marinelli here and with consistency from year to year gives us tremendous upside that is often overlooked. I think we're starting to see a lot less turnover on offense (even though we lost Murray), because the offense has stabilized. Linehan came in pretty much working off of Garrett's system which was similar to his own and this is Marinelli's second year as coordinator (though we ran the same system with Kiffin). Stability combined with smart player acquisition and I think we're on the right path.

Bill Belichick - 2000 - 175 games
Marvin Lewis - 2003 - 100 games
Tom Coughlin - 2004 - 96 games
Mike McCarthy - 2006 - 94 games
Sean Payton - 2006 - 80 games
Mike Tomlin - 2007 - 82 games
John Harbaugh - 2008 - 72 games
Jason Garrett 2010 - 41 games

I will say that basically everyone on this list one a super bowl within 3-4 years, so we do need to see some return from Garrett. I do think it was inappropriate for a rookie head coach to try to be offensive coordinator and head coach at the same time. I think that set us back. That being said, I think Garrett is going to be well placed in the future to be a top head coach. I do think he is smart and motivational. It was funny when Jerry said it, but the Cowboys did invest in training him to be the head coach. I just hope it didn't cost too much (i.e. Romo's career, it cost too much for Ware).

Don't forget that Belichick and Coughlin had several years of head coaching experience at other stops before winning Superbowls within 3-4 years with their current teams.

 

[Idgit]

Well, to my credit I think I was "liking" those posts.

A Wolfpack of two, my friend.

 

[xwalker]

Post 2/3 in less than 3 hours. Impressive. @xwalker and I are keeping track.

This thread is baseless, as the next most teniored coach has almost 60% more games than Garrett.

His posting history is definitely amusing.

 

[ShiningStar]

I would take Garrett over Turner any day of the week. In 2009 I probably wouldn't have said that though.....

you better add all the parts we had to add for JG to get a winning season.

 

[Wood]

I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not a huge fan of Jason Garrett, though I do appreciate what he has put together here, and what he is putting together.

I'm actually glad that he was retained... yeah, shocker, I know. I agree with the sentiment that head coaching and QB stability results in wins, and it results in playoff success. Keeping systems in place make it easier to have success from year to year. While other teams are trying to implement new offenses and defenses, we're focused on getting better and executing better.

One of my biggest criticisms of Garret is that it seemed as though he was blocking some NFL quality coaching talent from coming here, particularly with Norv Turner and maybe even Dan Reeves back in 2009.

I think having Linehan and Marinelli here and with consistency from year to year gives us tremendous upside that is often overlooked. I think we're starting to see a lot less turnover on offense (even though we lost Murray), because the offense has stabilized. Linehan came in pretty much working off of Garrett's system which was similar to his own and this is Marinelli's second year as coordinator (though we ran the same system with Kiffin). Stability combined with smart player acquisition and I think we're on the right path.

Bill Belichick - 2000 - 175 games
Marvin Lewis - 2003 - 100 games
Tom Coughlin - 2004 - 96 games
Mike McCarthy - 2006 - 94 games
Sean Payton - 2006 - 80 games
Mike Tomlin - 2007 - 82 games
John Harbaugh - 2008 - 72 games
Jason Garrett 2010 - 41 games

I will say that basically everyone on this list one a super bowl within 3-4 years, so we do need to see some return from Garrett. I do think it was inappropriate for a rookie head coach to try to be offensive coordinator and head coach at the same time. I think that set us back. That being said, I think Garrett is going to be well placed in the future to be a top head coach. I do think he is smart and motivational. It was funny when Jerry said it, but the Cowboys did invest in training him to be the head coach. I just hope it didn't cost too much (i.e. Romo's career, it cost too much for Ware).

there will come a day when fans don't need to open their post with a disclaimer about Jason.

 

[Galian Beast]

there will come a day when fans don't need to open their post with a disclaimer about Jason.

I agree, but for the time being I don't think you can ignore the recent past. He definitely bungled a few games and was too inexperienced to be a head coach, barely had experience as a coordinator.

 

[Fletch]

I agree, but for the time being I don't think you can ignore the recent past. He definitely bungled a few games and was too inexperienced to be a head coach, barely had experience as a coordinator.

And the same could be said for the early years of legendary coaches like Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Jimmy Johnson.

We are such an instant gratification society.

 

[dallasdave]

And the same could be said for the early years of legendary coaches like Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Jimmy Johnson.

We are such an instant gratification society.

We are such an instant gratification society-Hey man your great !

 

[Galian Beast]

And the same could be said for the early years of legendary coaches like Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Jimmy Johnson.

We are such an instant gratification society.

How do you figure?

 

[waving monkey]

you better add all the parts we had to add for JG to get a winning season.

like Jimmy Johnson had to have parts as well as many other great coaches;"parts is parts"

 

[waving monkey]

I agree, but for the time being I don't think you can ignore the recent past. He definitely bungled a few games and was too inexperienced to be a head coach, barely had experience as a coordinator.

it is the great "now" not yesterday

 

[Idgit]

I agree, but for the time being I don't think you can ignore the recent past. He definitely bungled a few games and was too inexperienced to be a head coach, barely had experience as a coordinator.

That comes with the dinner with a first time head coach. Anybody who ever thought otherwise was not being realistic.

I can't tell you how many debates I got into on the topic of Garrett of the 'we're the Dallas Cowboys, we shouldn't have to develop a team' variety. But the writing was on the wall re: Jason and his ability to build the team all along. He made some mis-steps--and I'm not talking about the relatively low-importance play calling disputes. He took too long to settle in on a winning combination of coaches for the defense, primarily. But his ability to build the team and to develop players was pretty obvious from the get-go. People didn't want to hear it because that entailed a couple of 500 seasons.

And I know we only had one good season here. And I know it can easily reverse in the NFL. But there's still a heck of a lot to be said for building a young roster that's deep and has a good cap situation going forward. Nobody is going to dispute any more that the organization is willing to make tough decisions. It's changed, and we're going to be reaping the benefits of the stability and good decision making for at least whatever's left of Romo's career. Everybody that piled on the head coach while he was getting a bad 2010 team into a contending team is going to end up having been either impatient or just wrong on the internet all along.

 

[waving monkey]

I still can't bring myself to like Garrett personally. His first few years he was so arrogant and acted like a petulant child, doing and saying anything to preserve himself above all else.

But I like winning. And I can recognize that this team is built to win not only this year but the next 3-4 years as well. I don't think Jason deserves the credit for that necessarily but he is part of a team that has made that happen. He has the coordinators to do the job, and doesn't get in their way. He has a front office that has become quite good at assembling talent and he doesn't get in their way. His role seems to be as the guy the connects all the parts without actually doing any of the parts. And that's fine. He seems to be doing that well.

I will say,judging people is not your long suit

 

[Galian Beast]

That comes with the dinner with a first time head coach. Anybody who ever thought otherwise was not being realistic.

I can't tell you how many debates I got into on the topic of Garrett of the 'we're the Dallas Cowboys, we shouldn't have to develop a team' variety. But the writing was on the wall re: Jason and his ability to build the team all along. He made some mis-steps--and I'm not talking about the relatively low-importance play calling disputes. He took too long to settle in on a winning combination of coaches for the defense, primarily. But his ability to build the team and to develop players was pretty obvious from the get-go. People didn't want to hear it because that entailed a couple of 500 seasons.

And I know we only had one good season here. And I know it can easily reverse in the NFL. But there's still a heck of a lot to be said for building a young roster that's deep and has a good cap situation going forward. Nobody is going to dispute any more that the organization is willing to make tough decisions. It's changed, and we're going to be reaping the benefits of the stability and good decision making for at least whatever's left of Romo's career. Everybody that piled on the head coach while he was getting a bad 2010 team into a contending team is going to end up having been either impatient or just wrong on the internet all along.

Most head coaches have extensive experience as position coaches, coordinators, and in a lot of cases college head coaches...

This guy had none of that.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Left off Pete Carroll because he was the next on the list and for some reason appeared under Garrett.

Pete Carroll became the coach of Seattle on January 9th 2010. Garrett became interim coach of Dallas on November 8th 2010, so unless Pete Carol missed 8 games or so, I don't see how Garrett is ahead.

 

[theogt]

I will say,judging people is not your long suit

Maybe so. But I would also say that he was extremely effective at self preservation and its paid off nicely for him. He's probably bought himself at until we've seen 2-3 years of whoever Romo's replacement will be.