Jason Garrett quickly becoming one of the longest term head coaches

Eskimo

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Look at the roster Garrett inherited in 2010 and it is easy to see why he didn't start posting 12-4 seasons right off the bat. Most of the good players on that roster were in steep decline and the drafts from 2006-2009 only netted Free, Spencer and Scandrick as major ongoing contributors. Ratliff was in steep decline already as were Newman, Colombo, Gurode, Kosier, RW (safety), RW (WR), TO, Brooking, Brady James. Ware was still a beast but by mid-2012 he would be a shadow of his former self due to injury. Ditto for Spencer by the start of 2013. Ditto for Sean Lee who missed a big chunk of 2013 and then all of 2014. He did have Dez but many people thought he was more likely to self-destruct then become a star at that point in time.

The roster just wasn't there. We had "names" but they were mostly either injured, entitled or in decline. We had no extra draft picks nor did we do a quick rebuild by tanking the roster by trading vets for picks and then getting top 5 picks to add All-Pro potential players to the mix. What we had was a QB and a patient front office who could spot talent that would work in our systems and we leveraged that into rebuilding without losing.

How many current key cogs of the roster were established stars when Garrett took over in mid-2010? I'd argue we're down to Witten and Romo now (I don't think Free is a cog anymore, just a stop-gap solution at RT). That is a monumental roster rebuild to get from where we were at the time he took over (a team that was 1-7) to the start of the 2014 season (a team that would go 12-4). I would certainly agree that not all the credit should go to Garrett but what part of Jerry Jones' GM resume argues that he is capable of putting together a strong team without a great HC? He got somewhere in the past with Parcells and Jimmy Johnson, two HOF coaches. He got nowhere with guys like Gailey, Campo and Wade.

Anyhow, I think this whole argument over assigning credit for Garrett's success is silly. Good coaches tend to find themselves associated with good front offices and good coordinators/assistant coaches. It is far too big of a job for one man to do but without the right guy at the HC job I don't think winning can be sustained. We saw how everything fell apart with Wade and the same thing would happen here if Garrett were replaced by a below average HC fairly quickly.
 

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Maybe so. But I would also say that he was extremely effective at self preservation and its paid off nicely for him. He's probably bought himself at until we've seen 2-3 years of whoever Romo's replacement will be.

My personnel view is JJOnes is a big Garrett supporter.
I may over value Garrett but I read what I could find on Garrett
back when JJones got Garrett away from Miami and all the
stuff I could find didn't reflect any questionable conduct.
All spoke unusually high of his character,intelligence and general ethics.

Now thats not to say he wasn't fighting for his position or that he wasn't competitive.
The Wade interim coaching era was a good example of him as a subordinate.
I know there was speculation other wise but it remains just speculation.
Garrett is now a good coach who will only get better.
one day garrett will be viewed as a top three coach in the NFL.
He will have several trophy in the trophy case.
 

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My personnel view is JJOnes is a big Garrett supporter.
I may over value Garrett but I read what I could find on Garrett
back when JJones got Garrett away from Miami and all the
stuff I could find didn't reflect any questionable conduct.
All spoke unusually high of his character,intelligence and general ethics.

Now thats not to say he wasn't fighting for his position or that he wasn't competitive.
The Wade interim coaching era was a good example of him as a subordinate.
I know there was speculation other wise but it remains just speculation.
Garrett is now a good coach who will only get better.
one day garrett will be viewed as a top three coach in the NFL.
He will have several trophy in the trophy case.

That's start this year with the Super Bowl trophy and then get about 5 more in the next 7 years !!! GO COWBOYS !!!
 

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Pete Carroll became the coach of Seattle on January 9th 2010. Garrett became interim coach of Dallas on November 8th 2010, so unless Pete Carol missed 8 games or so, I don't see how Garrett is ahead.

It was on a list, it probably sorted by year and by alphabetical order.
 

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He's a good Monday - Saturday coach.

Gameday he offers nothing.

It is unacceptable to be so basic at the NFL level from a scheme standpoint as we are.

Luckily we built a line that can impose their will on teams but if it ever comes down to play design it's usually just us hoping Romo can make a play outside of the scheme.

Our schemes are grade school.

No, make that pre-school.
 

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But I would also say that he was extremely effective at self preservation and its paid off nicely for him. He's probably bought himself at until we've seen 2-3 years of whoever Romo's replacement will be.
Oh I think it's much longer than that. We all know Jerry was sick at the HC turnover rate we had and wanted long term stability there. Now that he has it I can't see him possibly reverting back to that pattern again.
 

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If preschool scheme gets me 12-4 and a playoff win, then sign me up.

Oh brother.

We had to build the best offensive line in the league and not rely as much on the passing game for the scheme to finally not hold us down like it has.

Risen star is the one who doesn't know what he is talking about if he thinks Dallas puts their players in the best position for success.

When you have bad olines like we have had and you still run 25 yard routes downfield instead of doing things to take pressure off your oline then you have scheme problems.

You don't call games like Garrett did when you have the Phil Costas of the world playing for you.

You make adjustments after 1 game and not 4 years when a team loads the box and presses your receivers.

You find ways to get the ball in Dez Bryants hands when a team decides to sell out to stop him by using legal picks, bubble screens, ect... Instead of just taking what the defense gives you.

The only team I can remember that has recently won a SuperBowl that is as archaic as we are offensively is Baltimore. Everyone else is so much more dynamic and doesn't just rely on our guy beating their guy and just taking what the defense gives.
 

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With the exception of the lack of screen plays, complaining about a lack of dynamism displays misplaced faith in flash over fundamentals. How "flashy" has Seattle been? How "flashy" is New England really? Come in, hit em in the mouth, take away their cookie. Or you can Prince around and be cute. Let me guess, not working in the Wildcat displayed an inability to keep with the times? Where is the Wildcat now? Mostly a punchline, like right now. Chip Kelly is like, super flashy and "dynamic". How's that turned out so far?
 

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A Wolfpack of two, my friend.

Make it 3, at least hombre.
And Hos was the biggest Carnival Barker for Garrett and he should always be given credit for his unwavering faith in Coach.
 

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Oh I think it's much longer than that. We all know Jerry was sick at the HC turnover rate we had and wanted long term stability there. Now that he has it I can't see him possibly reverting back to that pattern again.
Considering it's probably at least 6 years from now, that'd be 10+ years. Stephen will be fully in charge by then so who knows. But if the team is looking aimless several years after Romo retires, the patience will be thin.
 

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Fortunately for JG, he's operating within a period in time whereby many crucial facets of the organization as a whole are functioning at a high degree of efficiency. Needless to say, he deserves credit for that development.

That, of course, would include not only the HC but the OC, DC, and the positional coaches as well. Jerry is thankfully playing a much-appreciated role as a GM who has learned to stay out of the way of those who are actually good at what they do. Credit him for that situation as well.

Will McClay has proven to be a terrific hiring in terms of his talent acquisition abilities and organizational acumen. I'm hopeful he'll become our GM eventually, even if for no other reason than to prevent other teams from pilfering his talents away from us. He's a valuable commodity aside from that singular reason, however. It'd surely be a shame to lose him to another team as their GM when he could do the same for us.
 
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Considering it's probably at least 6 years from now, that'd be 10+ years. Stephen will be fully in charge by then so who knows. But if the team is looking aimless several years after Romo retires, the patience will be thin.

That's why I advocate to start collecting future 1st round picks. Trade down into the 2nd round and get yourself a 1st rounder for next year. Every year do the same trade with one of our 1st rounders. Ideally try to find a team who you expect to regress so that the pick might unexpectedly sneak into the top 10. When opportunity arises you then trade up with the extra pick if a franchise type QB is available.

This is the only way I can think of to replace Romo without just "getting lucky". By getting lucky I mean finding a franchise QB outside of the top 10 of the draft. Most drafts don't even have one such player in the whole draft class. The chances of finding one in the mid-rounds is vanishingly small but some people are deluded enough to think we'll get one if only the guy can sit on the bench for 2-3 years behind Romo.

The other path to take would be to find a cheap young guy (Dalton, Kaepernick, Russell Wilson) who can do a bit more than "drive the bus" and use all the money saved on not paying a QB to build up the talent on the defense and OL to maximize his chance at success. It has worked in the past (heck Seahawks almost repeated) but you need truly dynamic defenses and quality at other offensive positions to pull it off.
 
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