Jaylon, Heath, Williams, and Brown

[Frozen700]

As bad as Jaylon Smith is at moving forward to tackle and waiting for the player to come to him.

He LEADS the Cowboys with total tackles and is only 8 way from tying the league lead in total tackles.

Which is amazing to think because when you watch him you don't think he is doing that much but again he leads the team and is 8 total tackles away from tying the league lead.

I wish I could say that is actually helping us.


How many TFL's does he have? That's a better stat

 

[dstew60105]

As bad as Jaylon Smith is at moving forward to tackle and waiting for the player to come to him.

He LEADS the Cowboys with total tackles and is only 8 way from tying the league lead in total tackles.

Which is amazing to think because when you watch him you don't think he is doing that much but again he leads the team and is 8 total tackles away from tying the league lead.

True, but they are all 5 yards past the LOS.

 

[Dwight]

I really thought Brown was going to step in and perform well. I was completely wrong.

There is still football left in the season but I don’t envision Heath, Brown and Williams being productive.

Jaylon is the only one I see improving due to this being his first season actually playing in the NFL.

If our team continues it’s poor play and that results in a high pick I would strongly recommend the FO look into drafting one of these positions in the first round - DE, WR, DT, MLB & S.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You need to add Tyrone Crawford. Highway robbery he is performing against the team.



YR

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

They need to all start packing a bag.

Worst 4 on the team.

Williams "who cares if he's a body catcher, look at Harper" ....welp thats why you care, he's trash, he ultimately ****ed us.

Jaylon has to he the worst linebacker when it comes to pursuit. Horrible

Brown? Are we sure that's not Carroll out there? The ****? Brandon Carr and the rest of the gang was so bad nobody even cared to go hard at him. He was a sheep in wolves clothing, yes a sheep. Dude is garbage and soft

Heath, man I won't even get into it about this guy

Lewis other than that touchdown by a future elite WR, is hands down our best corner/ and best secondary player. Lawrence, and Irving are problems as well.

Only guys to look forward to on the defense

Other than Williams, the other 3 are all being asked to be what they are not, starting players in the NFL.

 

[elcowboi]

Jaylon can't be worse than Bobby Carpenter. I can't believe so many are down on this guy when he had a major injury and hasn't played ball until this preseason. He is FAR from a bust. The plan wasn't for him to play as mush as he's been playing. Hopefully Lee, Hitchens and Durant can shoulder the load and Jaylon can be the run-stopping, QB chasing linebacker until he gets the passing nuances down. I will admit right now he is a liability in coverage and he is missing opportunities in the run game as well. He will get better as the year progresses and he'll be a much improved player next year.

 

[Fletch]

Our run d was the worst. Packers at 160 yds on tthe ground, with over 6.0 ypc.

I put blame defensive scheme and how Marinelli is having our guys line up.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I wish I could say that is actually helping us.


How many TFL's does he have? That's a better stat

I cannot find that on ESPN where I got his stats.

It is not what we want, we all know that.

As I said he waits many times for the player to come to him instead of going to the player and many times when he does go to the player, he misses.

However with that said, and as bad as that is.

He still is making tackles and making tackles beyond the LOS is better than not making them at all.

When this whole injury thing going on and him wearing a brace all the time...I have to guess that it is effecting him moving forward and hence the reason he does not do it as much. Of course I could be wrong but it sure does seem like he moves side to side (shuffling) without problem but if he has to move forward or change direction it seems to be what he does not do as often.

People are going to bag on him...and that is their choice as he should be doing better.

However I do believe he is probably doing better than what many think considering his injury. I actually wonder if he should be playing at all at this point. I would imagine if they had a healthy cast of LBs and no suspensions earlier...he might not be playing as much. But because we had hitchens suspended and Sean Lee now hurt...I think he was forced to play because he is still better than the depth behind him.

I wish he would play better...but I am not going to bash him for it right now.
This is on the FO IMO.

 

[RomoFor6]

As bad as Jaylon Smith is at moving forward to tackle and waiting for the player to come to him.

He LEADS the Cowboys with total tackles and is only 8 way from tying the league lead in total tackles.

Which is amazing to think because when you watch him you don't think he is doing that much but again he leads the team and is 8 total tackles away from tying the league lead.

Seriously? What good are tackles when they come 10 yards behind the LOS? Guy is a complete bum

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Seriously? What good are tackles when they come 10 yards behind the LOS? Guy is a complete bum

Better than 20 yards beyond the LOS.

As much as people complain...it CAN be worse.

Guy is playing when he should not be playing and is still leading the team in tackles and 8 tackles away from leading or tying the league in tackles.

It CAN be worse no matter how much people bag on the guy.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Hitchens now back and if Lee can get healthy.

With those two active, will they sit Jaylon.

 

[stiletto]

As bad as Jaylon Smith is at moving forward to tackle and waiting for the player to come to him.

He LEADS the Cowboys with total tackles and is only 8 way from tying the league lead in total tackles.

Which is amazing to think because when you watch him you don't think he is doing that much but again he leads the team and is 8 total tackles away from tying the league lead.

That's not an amazing statistic. MLB's usually lead their team in tackles. Now give me a statistic that shows most of his tackles are not from behind or TFL's, that's a different story. I think you'd be hard pressed to find Jaylon doing well in those categories.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That's not an amazing statistic. MLB's usually lead their team in tackles. Now give me a statistic that shows most of his tackles are not from behind or TFL's, that's a different story. I think you'd be hard pressed to find Jaylon doing well in those categories.

I think I already covered that.

And I don't care if anyone is impressed or not.

He still leads the team and is 8 away from tying the lead in tackles.

We need better,,,but he is not as bad as people make him out to be considering he really should not be a starter until his leg is completely healed.

 

[stiletto]

I think I already covered that.

And I don't care if anyone is impressed or not.

He still leads the team and is 8 away from tying the lead in tackles.

We need better,,,but he is not as bad as people make him out to be considering he really should not be a starter until his leg is completely healed.

Yep, definitely hollow and he definitely should not be starting. You got that right!!

 

[bigdnlaca]

I think they are expecting JS to be the next Sean Lee where he can read and react to the play. It took Sean Lee a good couple of years for him to be good doing that.

If JS can be told hey do a run blitz and not worry about coverage or hey follow this guy and not worry about the run, we will see an improvement.

In other words, I blame the coaches.

 

[bigdnlaca]

We had a chance to get TJ Ward and Joe Hayden. I think they wouldve made our defense significantly better from day 1...easily wouldve upgraded our secondary to semi-respectable at least....would've been worth the money.

But there was a lot of us posters felt that TJ Ward and Hayden were washed up and that they were fine with Jones, Heath and our young secondary. It amazes me sometimes when a lot of the posters overrate some of the Cowboy players and then once they are exposed, those same people will say he suck.

Now, TJ Ward I don't believe would have been good in this system. Hayden I think would have been ok. At least with Hayden, we would of had someone who could change the game and make the QB think twice about throwing over there.

 

[NotForLong]

Just curious what year were you born?

1976

 

[Redball Express]

When you go into the season with Anthony Brown and Jeff Heath as your starters, you are asking for problems.

Marrinnelli is starting to remind me of Alfred E Newman..

from Mad Magazine.

"What..me worry? "

 

[Broges74]

The Anthony Brown hate is funny. Some people don't care about the difference between rcb and lcb. But if Lewis is actually better I'm all for it but I'm not giving him that title at rcb. When he was at lcb Denver ate him up. Just sayin

AB, is that you?

 

[JD_KaPow]

I think I already covered that.

And I don't care if anyone is impressed or not.

He still leads the team and is 8 away from tying the lead in tackles.

We need better,,,but he is not as bad as people make him out to be considering he really should not be a starter until his leg is completely healed.

According to Pro Football Reference, he's tied with 4 other guys in combined tackles and assists, 5 behind the league leaders, even better than you say. However, there are a couple things to note here.

• He's tied for 46th in tackles with 21. He's second in the league in assists with 20. The assists are the only reason he's near the top. Of the top 150 guys in (tackles+assists), he has the lowest ratio of tackles to assists.
• The Cowboys have faced more offensive plays than all but 7 other teams, so we've had a lot of tackles just for that reason. This is why sheer number of tackles is usually a negative measure of defensive quality.

I'm not an expert on how tackles and assists are assigned, but the above is consistent with what I see on the field, that he gets there but he gets there late.

 

[Doc50]

Williams needs to get benched for Brice Butler.... And Heath is ******* trash. I want to see Xavier Woods start!

We may very well see this. The bye week is used for re-evaluation, and if the coaches agree with the majority of Zoner opinions, they'd be crazy not to make some changes. Team should also be healthier.

Heath, Smith, Taco, & Williams may all lose their starting jobs.