Jeff Fisher said on Fox Radio that...

[DizzG]

Jeff Fisher was just on Fox radio and said that in the NFL now coaches go to teams that have staff members already in place more and more...that it wasnt common in past years but that has changed around the league some.

said that coaches dont always go in and name their whole staff if there are coaches already there under contract...that it isnt a big deal unless that coach has some specific problem with a coach already there or whatever.

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know? I mean its happened even this offseason in Miami and Zona but some here think its totally taboo....

 

[Cliff]

JF has been my replacement for tuna since last season.... God, I pray he doesn't extend with Tenn!....

 

[BulletBob]

Jeff Fisher was just on Fox radio and said that in the NFL now coaches go to teams that have staff members already in place more and more...that it wasnt common in past years but that has changed around the league some.

said that coaches dont always go in and name their whole staff if there are coaches already there under contract...that it isnt a big deal unless that coach has some specific problem with a coach already there or whatever.

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know? I mean its happened even this offseason in Miami and Zona but some here think its totally taboo....

Apparently, not as much as some of the posters here!

 

[Doomsday101]

Jeff Fisher was just on Fox radio and said that in the NFL now coaches go to teams that have staff members already in place more and more...that it wasnt common in past years but that has changed around the league some.

said that coaches dont always go in and name their whole staff if there are coaches already there under contract...that it isnt a big deal unless that coach has some specific problem with a coach already there or whatever.

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know? I mean its happened even this offseason in Miami and Zona but some here think its totally taboo....

As long as the new HC signs off on it then fine. HC should be able to come in and interview the current coaches and should have a say in keeping that coach or not. If the HC does not believe in the system that assistant is running then why would you put your reputation on the line over a coach and system you do not believe in?

 

[hank2k]

It has NOT happened where the coordinator is changed from the previous staff before the HC is hired.

What has happened is that the coordinator remains the same and a new coach is brought in.

Totally different .

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good post. Like some have said, unless there is some specific personality conflict or difference in philosophy, why wouldn't coaches be able to work with someone they don't already know?

And say we hire a defensive coach like a Wade Philips, or Ron Rivera. Do they have an entire offensive staff lined up at this late point in time? I seriously doubt it.

 

[iceberg]

It has NOT happened where the coordinator is changed from the previous staff before the HC is hired.

What has happened is that the coordinator remains the same and a new coach is brought in.

Totally different .

only if you want it to be and are in search of "bullets" to load up with.

people have cited where it does happen and those who don't wanna hear it, ignore it or dismiss it as stupidity anyway - even though it contradicts the point they tried to make to start with. pretty simple really.

some people are as inflexible as parcells.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

Jeff Fisher was just on Fox radio and said that in the NFL now coaches go to teams that have staff members already in place more and more...that it wasnt common in past years but that has changed around the league some.

said that coaches dont always go in and name their whole staff if there are coaches already there under contract...that it isnt a big deal unless that coach has some specific problem with a coach already there or whatever.

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know? I mean its happened even this offseason in Miami and Zona but some here think its totally taboo....

Key words in bold, ask him how he would feel about a coordinator being hired immediately before he is interviewed for the job and I'll bet you get a significantly different answer.

 

[dbair1967]

its obvious Jones just paid Fisher to say that...at least thats what the fickle folks will think



David

 

[Hostile]

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know?

Apparently, not as much as some of the posters here!

Let me be the hat trick on this double goal scored. The only Head Coach we have ever had who brought in the entire staff he would have under him was Tom Landry. Every other Coach, including Jimmy, inherited some of the staff.

 

[iceberg]

Key words in bold, ask him how he would feel about a coordinator being hired immediately before he is interviewed for the job and I'll bet you get a significantly different answer.

and if you didn't or were given examples, i'll get they'd be dismissed by the crowd that just wants to hate anyway.

seen it far too often to know it won't go down like that again.

 

[iceberg]

Let me be the hat trick on this double goal scored. The only Head Coach we have ever had who brought in the entire staff he would have under him was Tom Landry. Every other Coach, including Jimmy, inherited some of the staff.

for those looking for a loophole hos, can you name a few coaches who were hired for assistant positions before the HC was hired in the same year?

i wanna see 'em dismiss this point just cause it's fun.

 

[BulletBob]

As long as the new HC signs off on it then fine. HC should be able to come in and interview the current coaches and should have a say in keeping that coach or not. If the HC does not believe in the system that assistant is running then why would you put your reputation on the line over a coach and system you do not believe in?

... and the majority on these boards seem to have already concluded that no such "say" will be given.

... even though we have no idea who the HC will be, who the OCs will be, and how much control Jerry will ultimately wield ...

 

[Doomsday101]

for those looking for a loophole hos, can you name a few coaches who were hired for assistant positions before the HC was hired in the same year?

i wanna see 'em dismiss this point just cause it's fun.

When Parcells came in Dallas had some assistant coaches under contract he interviewed them and some stayed on with us some did not. Having the HC at least approve of his staff should be expected and I see no where in Fisher comment that he would not sit down with assistant coaches to make a determination of keeping that coach or not. Looking at other HC I have no doubt they sit down with their staff and determine which guys they have faith in and who they don't. HC is going to take the fall in the end no matter if is was because of a bad defense or a bad offense the buck stops with the HC.

 

[iceberg]

When Parcells came in Dallas had some assistant coaches under contract he interviewed them and some stayed on with us some did not. Having the HC at least approve of his staff should be expected and I see no where in Fisher comment that he would not sit down with assistant coaches to make a determination of keeping that coach or not. Looking at other HC I have no doubt they sit down with their staff and determine which guys they have faith in and who they don't. HC is going to take the fall in the end no matter if is was because of a bad defense or a bad offense the buck stops with the HC.

unless it's parcells, then the players just didn't execute.

heard that a lot too.

amazing how facts change according to personal needs.

 

[Hostile]

for those looking for a loophole hos, can you name a few coaches who were hired for assistant positions before the HC was hired in the same year?

i wanna see 'em dismiss this point just cause it's fun.

It has been mentioned over and over...Dom Capers in Miami before Cam Cameron was hired as the HC. He was already there, but was expected to leave. There was even a contingent to bring him here to replace Zimmer. Capers was clearly NOT Cameron's choice as the DC but Cameron was fine with him being retained. His contract was over. Miami wanted to keep him. I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that.

People are going to say it's not the same, but it is the same. Or at the very least as close as it can get. There is no way on this earth to have 100% equal circumstances to use as an example.

It is a Coordinator being given a contract an in place before a HC is named. That is the criteria. All the rest of this is fluff and spin by those who simply want to find the Boogie Man under the bed.

Bottom line, Jerry scored a major coup getting Garrett back int he fold. As Jason's father said, "we're Cowboy people."

Damn right. This kid and his whole family are 100% loyal to this organization. How is this a bad hire? Answer, it isn't.

I swear, some people would gripe if they got hung with a new rope.

 

[utrunner07]

Who cares what Jeff Fisher says. Ya'll act like he is one of the best coaches in the league. Why anyone would want him here is a complete mystery. He is simply lucky that he did a bad enough job last year and some teams were stupid enough to let Vince young slide, otherwise they are looking at another sub 500 season. As it is they were only 500. Their super bowl run was complete luck, remember the music city miracle...oh yeah...

In his 12, TWELVE years with the Titans he has had 4, FOUR, winning seasons.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

Let me be the hat trick on this double goal scored. The only Head Coach we have ever had who brought in the entire staff he would have under him was Tom Landry. Every other Coach, including Jimmy, inherited some of the staff.

Let me say this I'm not against hiring Jason Garrett to the contrary I think he will be a fine coach.

However you are giving the impression that Jimmy Johnson wasn't involved in the process of selecting the coachs which stayed on from Landry's staff and that is simply not the truth. He interviewed all of those coaches before they were retained and many who had contracts under Landry were let go.

There were four coaches retained when Jimmy took over they were

Alan Landry
Neil Armstrong
Dick Nolan
Bob Ward

Non of these coaches were coordinators, there were 9 coaches from Landry's staff which weren't retained which included the OC Paul Hacket and the DC Ernie Stautner. So this is hardly the same circumstances.

 

[iceberg]

It has been mentioned over and over...Dom Capers in Miami before Cam Cameron was hired as the HC. He was already there, but was expected to leave. There was even a contingent to bring him here to replace Zimmer. Capers was clearly NOT Cameron's choice as the DC but Cameron was fine with him being retained. His contract was over. Miami wanted to keep him. I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that.

People are going to say it's not the same, but it is the same. Or at the very least as close as it can get. There is no way on this earth to have 100% equal circumstances to use as an example.

It is a Coordinator being given a contract an in place before a HC is named. That is the criteria. All the rest of this is fluff and spin by those who simply want to find the Boogie Man under the bed.

Bottom line, Jerry scored a major coup getting Garrett back int he fold. As Jason's father said, "we're Cowboy people."

Damn right. This kid and his whole family are 100% loyal to this organization. How is this a bad hire? Answer, it isn't.

I swear, some people would gripe if they got hung with a new rope.

i think a lot of this is fallout.

those who were anti-parcells are happy.
those pro parcells - not happy and "jones is back".

i can't blame one side for feeling jones will screw it up - i sat here for 2 years being mr negative and swearing left and right we'd never get anywhere. right or wrong really doesn't matter now cause we *are* off in another direction and *my own* personal frustrations are over and i really feel like i have my team back again.

that alone gives me hope cause parcells never did. in turn, i'll understand by my own experience how others may feel these days cause i was there not long ago.

"one side wins, the other loses" - i guess it applies to personal fan choices also. but i'm still gonna sit back and see what happens. any "out of the ordinary" move i'm not going to slam on till more becomes clear.

i'm just happy we're off the retread kick and onto getting some fire and direction in here. i'll go to my grave saying parcells was lost and it effected the team cause that's how i view leadership and i don't do "exceptions" very well.

you are what you are and parcells is GONE. now we're just living through the aftermath.

 

[Doomsday101]

... and the majority on these boards seem to have already concluded that no such "say" will be given.

... even though we have no idea who the HC will be, who the OCs will be, and how much control Jerry will ultimately wield ...

All I have said is in the end it should be up to the HC of who is a part of his staff or not. Your right we don't know if that will be the case or not and we will have to see. I think what worries some is what they have seen in the past when Dallas hired coordinators where the appearance was it was a Jerry hire more than a HC coaches hire