Jefferey Simmons anyone?

Silly said:
Not very good. Dallas defense was smoked by The Rams & Green Bay with and without Jaylon. Don't get cute draft a player that can make a difference this season in 2019.
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That’s all on Jaylons shoulders? Maybe it’s just those 10 other Cowboys getting in his way causing the problem.
 
Beaker42 said:
LOL silly point from Silly.
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I don't think it is a silly point. Just look at Vander Esch. He played his first year and contributed instead of sitting on the bench his first year, and then using his second year to get acclimated. Dallas needs play makers now. Not in 3 years.

Jaylon is the perfect example of what could have been. Just think what could have been had a defensive player stepped up and made a play on Rogers. As it was, he was just rehabilitating.
 
Silly said:
I don't think it is a silly point. Just look at Vander Esch. He played his first year and contributed instead of sitting on the bench his first year, and then using his second year to get acclimated. Dallas needs play makers now. Not in 3 years.

Jaylon is the perfect example of what could have been. Just think what could have been had a defensive player stepped up and made a play on Rogers. As it was, he was just rehabilitating.
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That wasn’t what he called silly. What he called silly was you indicated the defensive performance against the Rams Means Jaylon hasn’t worked out. You can’t reasonably say a poor team performance means there are no high quality individual players
 
aria said:
The guys is supposed to be a top ten talent with two red flags, a torn ACL while training for the combine and an assault charge and criminal mischief from getting involved in an altercation his sister was in and pushed a lady to the ground and continued to hit her. I haven’t seen the video but apparently it’s pretty graphic and happened 3 years ago. Since then, he’s supposedly been a role model citizen. Drafting a player like this is right in Jerrah’s wheelhouse but I’m curious to hear what you guys think.

He’s a stud and fills a position many of us are clammoring for. He would also normally go top 10 but there’s a good chance he’ll make it to the 2nd round, maybe even to us. Would you want him?
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https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dt-...-a-top-15-pick-suffered-a-knee-injury.428735/
 
glimmerman said:
If he makes it to the 3rd round JJ won’t be able to resist.
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If they grade him as a top 10 pick, we take him in the second if he's there. This is the archetypal Jerry pick. We just spent a season with Gregory and Jaylon on the field. Expect to see rookie medical red shirts until it fails multiple times in a row.

The medical risk on this is much less than Jaylon. Standard knee issue.

And he's at a position of need for us, particularly in 2020, when Collins is a free agent.

Unless some other magic player drops to us, we take him.
 
Is that Richard's son? Didn't know he had children, let alone violent ones. All that damned exercising, too much adrenaline.

I guess we could forgive beating a woman but I draw the line when she hits the ground. Gotta back off then and let her regroup , wipe the blood off and get back in a fighting stance before moving back in. It's only fair.

Seriously, are there not enough good players that don't have this type of history that they don't have to bring another one in?
 
The only thing that concerns me is the knee injury. This happen in 2016 and no charges were filed. He apologized and has not done anything like that again.

Would I waste a 2nd round pick to wait for a year....Heck No! Win now with players that can play now. Draft has good depth at DT.
 
aria said:
The guys is supposed to be a top ten talent with two red flags, a torn ACL while training for the combine and an assault charge and criminal mischief from getting involved in an altercation his sister was in and pushed a lady to the ground and continued to hit her. I haven’t seen the video but apparently it’s pretty graphic and happened 3 years ago. Since then, he’s supposedly been a role model citizen. Drafting a player like this is right in Jerrah’s wheelhouse but I’m curious to hear what you guys think.

He’s a stud and fills a position many of us are clammoring for. He would also normally go top 10 but there’s a good chance he’ll make it to the 2nd round, maybe even to us. Would you want him?
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I remember Simmons from Noxubee County HS in Macon, MS. Twice he spoiled a Mississippi 4A State Championship from my daughters Alma mater St. Stanislaus.

St. Stanislaus was led by All American QB Myles Brennan. He is at LSU currently the backup. He set all the passing records in MS from a guy named Favre.

Simmons just dominated both games and went to Starkville to reek havoc in the SEC.

Would I like to have Simmons in Dallas?
ABSOLUTELY!
 
buybuydandavis said:
If they grade him as a top 10 pick, we take him in the second if he's there. This is the archetypal Jerry pick. We just spent a season with Gregory and Jaylon on the field. Expect to see rookie medical red shirts until it fails multiple times in a row.

The medical risk on this is much less than Jaylon. Standard knee issue.

And he's at a position of need for us, particularly in 2020, when Collins is a free agent.

Unless some other magic player drops to us, we take him.
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After seeing the way our picks worked out I wonder if other teams aren’t more willing to take the chance.
 
I'm just curious about how drafting a player who won't contribute right away squares with the mentality that we have a small window and we need to win now?
 
rnr_honeybadger said:
I'm just curious about how drafting a player who won't contribute right away squares with the mentality that we have a small window and we need to win now?
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Im not in favor of drafting this guy with our 1st pick, but why is it we have to have a small window? People were saying the same thing about the Cowboys having a small window in 2014 when Romo and Witten were aging. The point of drafting and continually working on getting quality players is to keep the window open.
 
glimmerman said:
After seeing the way our picks worked out I wonder if other teams aren’t more willing to take the chance.
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That would depend on whether the HC and GM could wait for them to play. They have jobs on the line and ours do not. Few have the luxury of not needing their high draft picks on the field. And Jaylon was a real risky move, he might not have ever fully recovered enough not to wear the brace. All Gregory had to do was put the pipe down but I don't think even the Cowboys knew he would have that much of a struggle.

One thing for sure, the Cowboys will take risks because there's really no risk, nothing is going to happen to Booger if it doesn't work out. That's why the Bengals will take the risks, nothing will happen to Mike Brown.
 
CouchCoach said:
That would depend on whether the HC and GM could wait for them to play. They have jobs on the line and ours do not. Few have the luxury of not needing their high draft picks on the field. And Jaylon was a real risky move, he might not have ever fully recovered enough not to wear the brace. All Gregory had to do was put the pipe down but I don't think even the Cowboys knew he would have that much of a struggle.

One thing for sure, the Cowboys will take risks because there's really no risk, nothing is going to happen to Booger if it doesn't work out. That's why the Bengals will take the risks, nothing will happen to Mike Brown.
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Great point. The GM’s job is not dependent on success. HC also to some degree, although that kind of immunity may be running out.
 
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