Jernigan failed drug test?

[Risen Star]

And I was countering your point saying that a team that you and I rooted for was hugely successful with more than a couple bad eggs. Our star WR was probably doing lines in the locker room.

Its no doubt incredibly stupid and he will definitely see the effects of his stupidity when he gets his 1st check, but it in no way shape or form affects his ability to hit the guy in front of him on Sundays.

But Michael Irvin wouldn't have been dumb enough to fail a drug test at his combine. That's the difference. Why would I want to use the 16th overall pick in the draft on a guy like that? There are other options.

 

[Risen Star]

UPDATE 8:11 p.m. ET: FOX Sports initially reported that Jernigan had a failed test but later updated that report to say that Jernigan had a diluted sample.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-failed-a-drug-test-at-the-scouting-combine/

Mettenberger's was the same case, but he supposedly was under doctor's orders to overhydrate due to cramps. His agent was real quick with that response.

Should be interesting to see if Jernigan's agent, who is relatively unknown, can bail him out as well.

Well I don't know what to think now.

 

[tm1119]

But Michael Irvin wouldn't have been dumb enough to fail a drug test at his combine. That's the difference. Why would I want to use the 16th overall pick in the draft on a guy like that? There are other options.

Oh well no, definitely not 16. I'm talking about 47 now. Big difference. Would you be a taker at 47?

 

[Alexander]

Well I don't know what to think now.

A diluted sample is usually just as damning. It means they were not only dumb, but thought they could cover it up.

But I don't know if NFL teams would care so long as they were not drafting the player high and handing him millions. In today's draft, it is a little different than it used to be with the way contracts can be structured.

 

[Alexander]

Oh well no, definitely not 16. I'm talking about 47 now. Big difference. Would you be a taker at 47?

I would consider him at that stage but there would have to be limited options available and we went another direction in the first (like OL/WR or something), but the third would be even more preferable.

 

[joseephuss]

And I was countering your point saying that a team that you and I rooted for was hugely successful with more than a couple bad eggs. Our star WR was probably doing lines in the locker room.

Its no doubt incredibly stupid and he will definitely see the effects of his stupidity when he gets his 1st check, but it in no way shape or form affects his ability to hit the guy in front of him on Sundays.

But that start receiver wasn't getting caught at the NFL combine. The first time he got in trouble with the league he was well into his career and had already helped the team win Superbowls. These guys are drawing the attention of the league before they are even drafted. That is the big difference. I don't think it is a good comparison. Plus both college and the NFL make it easy not to get caught. You have to question someone dumb enough to get caught.

 

[Risen Star]

A diluted sample is usually just as damning. It means they were not only dumb, but thought they could cover it up.

But I don't know if NFL teams would care so long as they were not drafting the player high and handing him millions. In today's draft, it is a little different than it used to be with the way contracts can be structured.

Yeah but you're still using your first round pick on the player. The money tied to it might have changed but not the importance of the pick. You don't want to whiff on some idiot who is destined for the league's substance abuse program.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah but you're still using your first round pick on the player. The money tied to it might have changed but not the importance of the pick. You don't want to whiff on some idiot who is destined for the league's substance abuse program.

I don't think Jernigan was a solid first even before this. Now he definitely is not.

Some teams would care. Dallas might be one of them with the "RKG" thing. They put others "in the box" and off the board.

A team like Seattle, they don't care if the player can play.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't think Jernigan was a solid first even before this. Now he definitely is not.

Some teams would care. Dallas might be one of them with the "RKG" thing. They put others "in the box" and off the board.

A team like Seattle, they don't care if the player can play.

I don't agree. Seattle cares, but they have more flexibility. If they draft a guy on defense this year and he can't perform for whatever reason they still have other players they can plug in and make due. Dallas doesn't have that luxury on the defensive side of the ball. If they draft a guy and he doesn't help the team, then they are left scrambling a bit.

 

[Alexander]

I don't agree. Seattle cares, but they have more flexibility

Given the number of players they have had that failed drug tests, I think they are not that worried about it.

 

[Alexander]

Last year, Keenan Allen was in a similar situation. Not a rock solid 1st round pick, projected late first/early second.

He was red-flagged for a diluted sample and ended up going 76th overall.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Obviously the Cowboys have not removed Jernigan from their board– they had him in for a visit.

 

[DTown214]

Thank God, hopefully this means we don't take him in the first round. I've never been high on this dude... from the FSU games I watched it seems like he disappeared so many times and just lost interest. Two things I fear about this draft are if we take Jernigan or any O-lineman in the first round. Take him in the second and I'll be fine.

 

[guag]

Well I don't know what to think now.

Diluted sample = failed test. 19 times out of 20 it means someone was drinking mass amounts of liquid to cover up. Won't get into my background, but trust me -- it's the same as a positive urine.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Florida State players don't seem to be the brightest.

As an FSU grad, I recent that remark.

 

[RS12]

Welp now have an idea why Johnson was not likely for the Cowboys per an old Broaddus tweet.

 

[Alexander]

Obviously the Cowboys have not removed Jernigan from their board– they had him in for a visit.

Depends on when the drug test results were finalized. I would think they would have had that knowledge by then, but who knows.

I do know that Jernigan did not visit many teams, unlike most of the top prospects. From what I was able to read about only Dallas, Tennessee and Seattle had him in for a visit/workout.

 

[Alexander]

Welp now have an idea why Johnson was not likely for the Cowboys per an old Broaddus tweet.

I think that was just as much on Broaddus opinion of him on tape than him knowing about the drug issue.

There was this from last year as well:

 

[RS12]

I think that was just as much on Broaddus opinion of him on tape than him knowing about the drug issue.

There was this from last year as well:

Strength coach was right about Montgomery. Looks like he will go two for two. Broaddus also said they werent interested in Christian Jones.

 

[Plankton]

I bet that Mettenberger's diluted sample was to cover up the PED's he used to recover from his torn ACL in a scant few months. JMO.

As for Jernigan, if you fail a drug test at what amounts to a job interview, it means one of two things:

1. You have a drug problem.
2. You are as dumb as a rock.

Neither quality is one that I would want for a player on my football team. He would be off my board immediately.