Jerry admits he needs to change, so where's the change?

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Jerry, you say you realize you need to change? Well, where is the change in your way of thinking? You still think you're a GM, but you're not. I think you're one of the best owners in the league, the master marketer, maybe in all of sports. But cmon, GM? Prove you can change and go get us a real football personnel man like Scott Pioli or put your tail between your legs and have Parcells act in an executive position and not coach. Something better than our current structure, this team is on the brink of destruction.

We need "real" football masterminds choosing who the coaches are on this team so that the right philosophy is demonstrated on the field. This team is a circus and the players are not united and certainly don't execute effectively when it is most important. If you listen to the players right now they don't have any idea on how to turn this thing around or even what happened during the last game. At most they are pointing to the coaching, which doesn't have anything constructive to offer other than "I need to change the way I approach this team, but my mannerism won't change."

Jerry, we're going to waste a season like this and it's one of the most important season's ever for this franchise considering we are moving into another stadium and this supposed window of opportunity talent wise. Personnel guys like Pioli don't just grow off of trees and only come around once in a blue moon, yet I haven't even heard him linked to us, you're just willing to let him look around like Sparano. At least consider the option of having a top notch personnel guy come in. 3 Super Bowls from Pioli combined with your 3 is a heck of a mentality to spread throughout this organization. Pioli would also attract the "right" coaching personnel with answers and adjustments. Regardless, prove to us this change. There are some good coaches out there right now that don't want the bottom feeder team opportunities.

Guys like Brian Stewart don't deserve a DC position over an Eric Mangini or Romeo Crennel. Wade Phillips doesn't deserve a HC position over a Bill Cowher or Mike Shanhan. I think Wade would take the $3 million and be a DC if a big name coach was the overseer. I'll take a Mike Shanahan/Eric Mangini combination over a Wade Phillips/Garrett combo any day. I'll take a Shanahan/Phillips combo over either. It's either Pioli, Parcells as the GM or Shanny Jerry. Shanny as a GM is a no no, but as a coach he is one of the best in the business and you know who runs that locker room when he's around. We don't have the leadership right now. These are incredible opportunities and what's holding us back from getting them is that you are BSing us about change.
 

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BigDFan5;2549442 said:
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:welcome:

LOL! I can see why there are so many new threads to read. Thanks for the welcome nonetheless.
 

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Mike Shannahan won back to back SBs once, and yet he got fired for Denver's lack of recent success. His recent success is better than Jerry's recent success.

Jerry likes to bring up the 3 SBs that Jimmy built as proof of his GM abilities when confronted by angry fans (there was an infamous call to the Ticket where a fan got on jerry about this, and Jerry responded by asking him if he liked those 3 SBs).

Would Jerry, as owner, have fired a GM that had gone 12 years without a playoff win even if he had won SBs by now if the GM were not named "Jerry Jones"? I sure think so. Jones had no problem firing Landry and Schramm despite their historic success.
 

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You sure Jerry didn't say he was going to count his change?
 

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He better get his **** together or that new stadium is going to be empty. I'm not going to another game and wasting my money until I know he's finally learned after 12 years.
 

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RoadRunner;2549459 said:
Mike Shannahan won back to back SBs once, and yet he got fired for Denver's lack of recent success. His recent success is better than Jerry's recent success.

Jerry likes to bring up the 3 SBs that Jimmy built as proof of his GM abilities when confronted by angry fans (there was an infamous call to the Ticket where a fan got on jerry about this, and Jerry responded by asking him if he liked those 3 SBs).

Would Jerry, as owner, have fired a GM that had gone 12 years without a playoff win even if he had won SBs by now if the GM were not named "Jerry Jones"? I sure think so. Jones had no problem firing Landry and Schramm despite their historic success.

Sounds like no "change to" me. Same ole JJ. Shanny is a great coach, lacks as a GM. His RB's and o-line's are successful with scrubs not because he finds diamonds in the rough but because Shanahan's offensive system is top notch and he coaches those types of players to execute. Just to boot he's darn good with QB's.

I agree totally with you on Jerry the GM and how he would handle these current circumstances with any other GM other than himself. I'm hearing about money being tight because of the economy and the new stadium so he doesn't want to choke on the $3 million with Wade and Garrett. Plus he has to go pay another coach if he goe's the right direction but Jerry sure as hell saved $ on the GM side of things over the years didn't he?
 

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Jerry will never change. His ego will still take priority over everything else including the Cowboys. If he was serious about changing, he would realize he is in way over his head as a GM and is beyond clueless about how to be a GM. He would hire a real football guy as GM and then take a back seat.
 

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:welcome: to The Zone.

Okay, for starters, has Free Agency happened yet? Did I miss it?

Have we already held the 2009 Draft?
 

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Jon88;2549493 said:
He better get his **** together or that new stadium is going to be empty. I'm not going to another game and wasting my money until I know he's finally learned after 12 years.

No its not :lmao2:

You may not go but someone will be there to replace you
 

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Batman;2549506 said:
Jerry will never change. His ego will still take priority over everything else including the Cowboys. If he was serious about changing, he would realize he is in way over his head as a GM and is beyond clueless about how to be a GM. He would hire a real football guy as GM and then take a back seat.


What was the problem with this years team, good players with bad coaching

or bad players that coaching couldnt help?
 

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BigDFan5;2549515 said:
No its not :lmao2:

You may not go but someone will be there to replace you


I buy hundreds of seats when I go. That's just what I do. Seriously, I'm not the only one who sees this.
 

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Batman;2549506 said:
Jerry will never change. His ego will still take priority over everything else including the Cowboys. If he was serious about changing, he would realize he is in way over his head as a GM and is beyond clueless about how to be a GM. He would hire a real football guy as GM and then take a back seat.

:bravo: That would represent adequate well deserved change. Getting a GM doesn't mean we are starting from scratch yet either and burning down "Rome", which was built from a great empire which we definitely are not anymore.

A good personnel guy like Pioli would use the current good pieces, skim the junk and add in the other necessary ingredients. When Belicheck took over the Pats, he used the base of players like Law, Brushi, Vrabel, McGinest and added good draft picks and solid veteran free agents that were good role players.

They obviously found Brady, were pretty much forced with Bledsoe going down, but that was the added push. Pioli was there for all of that and unlike Jerry can take a good idea and make it great. NE is no fluke and it's from the executives, coaching and players down that are breeding that level of success. Those guys without Brady and their starting RB, not a top corner on that roster still made a playoff push. If we lost Romo in week 1 we would have accounted for a top 5 pick. Those guys still battled while we made excuses and could not execute.

Anyone think Wade/Garrett could have done what the Pats did with Cassell? Let alone without the presence of your starting rb. No way Shanny with these 3 running backs doesn't get this o-line to perform and put together a mean running game. If Jerry won't change, and he won't at least get us Shanny with a 34 DC that can continue bringing the heat while we run down teams throats and burn them with the pass. But Wade/Garrett is who Jerry wants to lead this team through a season.
 

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He's a sleazy businessman who likes hiring thugs who go out and disrespect the franchise. He knows how to make money, but has no idea how to put together a team that competes on the field.
 

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Jon88;2549563 said:
He's a sleazy businessman who likes hiring thugs who go out and disrespect the franchise. He knows how to make money, but has no idea how to put together a team that competes on the field.

You're right, a very sleazy but smart business man when it comes to making the $. But Jerry does know eventually this team needs to win because all this glitz and glam he creates won't hold up for much longer. Unfortunately it may have to come down to the fans stiffing on going to games and buying merchandise for him to put a real GM and coaching staff in there.

We knew when Parcells left Jerry would go back to the run of the mill/push over coaching. I think the day Jerry is ready to give the GM spot up to someone other than a Jones, he's either in a coffin or is ready to sell this team. He's been the GM of this team approx 75% of the time he's owned it. In 90% of that 75% we haven't won a playoff game. The 10% we did it was from Jimmy's team. Got to get real.
 

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OAM;2549585 said:
You're right, a very sleazy but smart business man when it comes to making the $. But Jerry does know eventually this team needs to win because all this glitz and glam he creates won't hold up for much longer. Unfortunately it may have to come down to the fans stiffing on going to games and buying merchandise for him to put a real GM and coaching staff in there.

We knew when Parcells left Jerry would go back to the run of the mill/push over coaching. I think the day Jerry is ready to give the GM spot up to someone other than a Jones, he's either in a coffin or is ready to sell this team. He's been the GM of this team approx 75% of the time he's owned it. In 90% of that 75% we haven't won a playoff game. The 10% we did it was from Jimmy's team. Got to get real.


You are exactly right.
 

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Another pissing in the wind post!


:rolleyes:

Jerry is not going anywhere....

Sorry, Charlie!
 
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