Recap: Jerry Jones 1053thefan recap - 12/3/13

[theebs]

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[Direwolf63]

I got you, but preseason doesn't count, and even if it did, it's still only two. The way people talk about him you would have thought he lost over 10. Murray has to have more than two.

Maybe not to you and me, but it does to those that matter: the coaches.

Regardless, I think the bigger issues with Dunbar were his nagging injuries and pass protection rather than his fumbles.

 

[Deep_South]

Jerry, went hunting, had good time
Jerry: look ahead and given us good time extra days for rest, and to prepare, know we need to get a win and get it done here:
Jerry, its real, dont mean to be trite, but u could tie that to why we have had disappointments in december, and to play at that level and need to have arrow going up and not down, good for jason garrett to discuss these issues

Jerry: I dont know of any 1 or 2 other things of disappointment ive had last 2 years and not win more than just 2 games, we need to play better and had romo playing well last 2 years, and one of biggest disappointments and have romo and not be in good shape to win, weve got chance to do something about it this yr with romo having and doing great and not winning these last 2 years

Jerryn jason 3rd yr, in december, to come back question, i think he would be first to tell u, have a lot of disappointment like rest of us if we dont do better in december, in general that hasnt been resons why i made coaching changes when i changed headcoaches

Jerryn qb play of romo, for last yrs, and now, defense to be in general going to get healthy at LB and healtiier in defensive line and great coaching from rob m. and last yr, no question we were rendered helpless last yr, due to injuries but we have guys ready, yes lee will return he thinks but mo is questionable, adding some guys possibly that can play fullback, and some dl, and a rb off street possibly to help us, looking at 7 guys, dunbar has aspects to fire a offense up, and was a real loss for us:
Jerry: i think he had injury dunbar in preseason, but when he got healthy was out for a month, and tried to get some packages and we didnt get to packages in the ball games, but looking at it now, really should have been in lineup earlier, and might have used him more

Jerry: officiating, some games were affected by refs, last week jason garrett had said , jerry- i say in tongue in cheek, if subsitute officials they would have been riden out on a rail, but we have officials in top shape in training, negotationg labor aggreement, and confident room for improvement and best ive seen it in 25 years in nfl
Jerry: on jay ratliff issue=- im sure jay will be fired up about playing his old team and i wish him best on individual basis, and bothersome if he comes in plays well against us when we thought he couldnt play this year, far as im concerned he needs to be helping the dallas cowboys

jerry on hatcher, when will u lock him in, has had a great yr, and leadership role, and phnemonomial and ability to have quick twitch, and has covered rob m. and our defense, so if he can get a pass rush from outside, we could really see improvement on defense is ware comes on
jerry im excited about wilber, had highest grade of any lb in giant game and might have him in place where he can really excel, that really to setup at this level, going to be big factor for us on defense but on durant and wilber i wouldnt want to say who is going to be the starter[/quote

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Thanks for the summary. Did I read this correctly that Garrett said both that if the refs were substitutes they would be ridden out of town on a rail, and they are the best he has seen in 25 years? Those two statements sound mutually exclusive

 

[Plankton]

I am interested in seeing Wilber more at LB.

Hopefully we can salvage the player.

I agree. He has looked like a much more confident player in that position.

Truthfully, I thought he should have been there all along at SLB. He doesn't have anywhere near enough base strength to play DE.

 

[Risen Star]

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That is one disturbing signature you got there.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I am interested in seeing Wilber more at LB.

Hopefully we can salvage the player.

Short term, it keeps Sims off the field which is a major plus for the defense. Long-term, perhaps we can look forward to a few years of a solid LB corps in Lee-Carter-Wilber.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

IIRC, we went without a FB since we were going with an extra TE in Andre Smith. Instead of looking at a FB, why don't they just bring back TE Smith and use him as a FB/TE. He seemed to be our best blocking TE. I don't think any team picked him up after we cut him. I don't even think we put him back on the practice squad.

We have two PS slots. I could see one PS slot going for a QB and the other PS slot for a RB just in case another RB gets injured. I don't see kicking the tires of another RB as any indication that the team is not pleased with Randle and Tanner. Just to have someone on the PS or roster in case another RB gets injured. It would be nice to add a small, speedy RB with some wiggle who can catch. I, personally, would try Dwayne harris in that role.

 

[rcaldw]

Is there a link to the interview?

 

[rcaldw]

Never mind, found it.

 

[cowboys1981]

IIRC, we went without a FB since we were going with an extra TE in Andre Smith. Instead of looking at a FB, why don't they just bring back TE Smith and use him as a FB/TE. He seemed to be our best blocking TE. I don't think any team picked him up after we cut him. I don't even think we put him back on the practice squad.

We have two PS slots. I could see one PS slot going for a QB and the other PS slot for a RB just in case another RB gets injured. I don't see kicking the tires of another RB as any indication that the team is not pleased with Randle and Tanner. Just to have someone on the PS or roster in case another RB gets injured. It would be nice to add a small, speedy RB with some wiggle who can catch. I, personally, would try Dwayne harris in that role.

That last part wouldn't be a bad idea. I would line him and a RB opposite of Romo and have Harris hit the flats. It would force opposing defenses to address that area and open up the middle for the run and pass.

 

[remdak]

IIRC, we went without a FB since we were going with an extra TE in Andre Smith. Instead of looking at a FB, why don't they just bring back TE Smith and use him as a FB/TE. He seemed to be our best blocking TE. I don't think any team picked him up after we cut him. I don't even think we put him back on the practice squad.

We have two PS slots. I could see one PS slot going for a QB and the other PS slot for a RB just in case another RB gets injured. I don't see kicking the tires of another RB as any indication that the team is not pleased with Randle and Tanner. Just to have someone on the PS or roster in case another RB gets injured. It would be nice to add a small, speedy RB with some wiggle who can catch. I, personally, would try Dwayne harris in that role.

Cleveland picked up Andre Smith.

 

[blackbull]

Between Dunbars fumbleitis, his injuries and pass protection issues, the coaches were clearly hesitant to put him in early in the year. He has lots of potential, but it looks like we have yet another player who can't stay healthy.

As for the FB, it looks like Garrett is abandoning to 2 TE sets and putting a FB in front of Murray. So either Garrett is making adjustments that many say he doesn't do enough of or he doesn't have a plan.

Depends on your perspective.

Copout. Two fumbles in 5 weeks is fumblitis? You mean to tell me they couldn't use Dunbar for screens and for obvious run plays? Ugh

 

[conner01]

I will never understand why dunbar wasn't used. It was nuts. they spent the whole spring and summer talking about what the guy could do and how he could bring an element we do not have and then he never played.

now all of a sudden a fullback is important?

this staff has no idea what its doing. I really hope romo can do enough on his own to get us the east. he is not going to get much help from the guys on the sideline that is pretty clear.

fumbles. when you are given opportunities you have to take advantage of them

 

[Direwolf63]

Copout. Two fumbles in 5 weeks is fumblitis? You mean to tell me they couldn't use Dunbar for screens and for obvious run plays? Ugh

Keep reading the thread.

 

[conner01]

I got you, but preseason doesn't count, and even if it did, it's still only two. The way people talk about him you would have thought he lost over 10. Murray has to have more than two.

murray has a ton more touches too. murray has 2 but 142 carries and 39 catches

 

[Risen Star]

Short term, it keeps Sims off the field which is a major plus for the defense. Long-term, perhaps we can look forward to a few years of a solid LB corps in Lee-Carter-Wilber.

He was on my pet cat list that year and you can imagine how I've felt about changing that litter box since he's been here.

But I never really considered him a good pass rusher. So it always seemed like a bad fit to me playing him as a rush LB in a 3-4 or a down DE in a 4-3. This may be where he belongs. Or at least his best shot at proving he's an NFL player.

 

[WoodysGirl]

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[Doomsay]

He was on my pet cat list that year and you can imagine how I've felt about changing that litter box since he's been here.

But I never really considered him a good pass rusher. So it always seemed like a bad fit to me playing him as a rush LB in a 3-4 or a down DE in a 4-3. This may be where he belongs. Or at least his best shot at proving he's an NFL player.

Good points, he has had almost as many non-sack stops in the last two games as he's had the rest of the season. Also, as a DE, he was pretty negligent at protecting the edge on running plays.

 

[Idgit]

Copout. Two fumbles in 5 weeks is fumblitis? You mean to tell me they couldn't use Dunbar for screens and for obvious run plays? Ugh

Dunbar's fumbling problem extended beyond games, and has been pretty well documented at this point. His original benching came about because he fumbled on what was supposed to be a safe play, but the problem had extended beyond just that game. I know people love to see the dynamic plays (I love them too), but you simply cannot play a back who cannot demonstrate that he can hold onto the football. It doesn't matter how dynamic he is. And you can't fault coaches for not playing the guy if they're not seeing the ball protection in practice. It's one of the easiest things to diagnose on film, and the steps for proper care and handling of a football are well established at this point. Either the back does it, or he does not and he cannot play.

As for Jerry's reference to not being able to get Dunbar in some games earlier in the season in certain packages, that's a reference to what he said after the NO game, where we had a lot of good stuff planned that we were unable to get to. I thought at the time that it was probably Dunbar he was referring to, and I'm sure, now, that's what he meant. I think Dunbar was going to be a fairly significant part of what we wanted to do offensively going forward, and I think his loss is far more significant that his production to-date would indicate. Sucks.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Jerry jones intimated that kyle Wilber will keep the starting job at strong side linebacker

I am VERY anxious to see how this works out the rest of the year. It would be wonderful if he proves to be an asset to our team after so many wrote him off last summer.