Jerry Jones Has Finally Learned How To Be GM

[Galian Beast]

It was a bad trade bc Troy never wanted the speed WR as his #1. Troy does remind me of Warner in that he could have adapted (his accuracy is unmatched to this day) but Troy didn't like small Wr's, etc. That alone should have negated the trade; looked even worse considering we got Rocket the next off season. We had two of the same as the 1 and 2 but didn't have the offensive creativity to make that work, etc. Revisionist history I know, but still stings!

We got Rocket before we made the trade... Rocket and Aikman did wonderfully together, but Rocket shouldn't have been a number 1. Galloway and Rocket which was the plan would have worked well with Aikman.

 

[Galian Beast]

It was a bad trade bc Troy never wanted the speed WR as his #1 (delay in opening). Troy does remind me of Warner in that he could have adapted (his accuracy is unmatched to this day) but Troy didn't like small Wr's, etc. That alone should have negated the trade; looked even worse considering we got Rocket the next off season. We had two of the same as the 1 and 2 but didn't have the offensive creativity to make that work, etc. Revisionist history I know, but still stings!

http://amarillo.com/stories/2000/04/29/spo_LD0644.shtml#.VU6973UVhBc

Aikman talking about his excitement having Galloway.

 

[BigStar]

We got Rocket before we made the trade... Rocket and Aikman did wonderfully together, but Rocket shouldn't have been a number 1. Galloway and Rocket which was the plan would have worked well with Aikman.

It was a minute ago Thanks for clarifying Rocket's signing, etc. I do remember Rocket and Aikman having a rhythm, but wasn't able to use Galloway in the same way. Agree, Rocket was the perfect #2; even translates to today's game. I think if both were healthy, Aikman would've made it work but wasn't given that opp. obviously. I went to the DAL-WAS game where Aikman ripped the skins via Irvin/Rocket on opening day 99' so definitely remember his finer days of passing (Aikman).

 

[BigStar]

http://amarillo.com/stories/2000/04/29/spo_LD0644.shtml#.VU6973UVhBc

Aikman talking about his excitement having Galloway.

I meant on the field, but remember the excitement surrounding the trade/signing at the time. Galloway was a good player we didn't know how to use...

 

[Galian Beast]

I meant on the field, but remember the excitement surrounding the trade/signing at the time. Galloway was a good player we didn't know how to use...

I think there was a plan in place, and I think it would have worked. We would have had a very difficult to stop offense with that kind of speed on both sides, it was worth the risk, it just didn't pan out. I'd rather a team strike will the iron is hot, then to just let the iron cool off like Minnesota has done for years or the Jets.

 

[BigStar]

I think there was a plan in place, and I think it would have worked. We would have had a very difficult to stop offense with that kind of speed on both sides, it was worth the risk, it just didn't pan out. I'd rather a team strike will the iron is hot, then to just let the iron cool off like Minnesota has done for years or the Jets.

I feel you on striking while hot, but that trade and signings that accompanied showed desperation (getting Aikman/Emmitt another SB) outside of Glover, etc. Maybe McNeil as a stint @ CB, but outside of that, we were striking out in FA left and right,

 

[BigStar]

Jason Garrett deserves a ton of credit for this. A TON!

What did he do outside of Wade again? Was ably not fired, etc. by changing his offensive philosophy in the 180 sense, etc.? Throw your offensive gameplan in the trash and go with a running game that you never tried to establish through the first 3 years of 8-8? Blame whatever your like, the team could have been in the playoffs *easily, w/o the need to throw on 3rd and 2. But, now we're ready? Only took 3 OL in the first. I could have told you that? I want to be an NFL coach but want a franchise QB, three OL in the first round, a top 5 WR, etc.? What doesn't JG have to win?

 

[TheCount]

There were folks that posted that "Stephen would be Jerry 2" inferring disjointed club management.

I've yet to see that.

I think Jerry's biggest flaw is also his biggest strength, he's Dallas Cowboy Fan #1. Stephen is a little colder, or shrewder, which is something we really needed.

 

[Galian Beast]

I feel you on striking while hot, but that trade and signings that accompanied showed desperation (getting Aikman/Emmitt another SB) outside of Glover, etc. Maybe McNeil as a stint @ CB, but outside of that, we were striking out in FA left and right,

Having a super bowl caliber crew doesn't come along that easily. When you have it you have to try to maximize it. Just look at the number of teams that struggle to find a franchise QB... You can find yourself wasting high end draft picks trying to build your team for years... Detroit, Miami, NY Jets, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Oakland, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Arizona, Chicago*, Cincinnati*, Tennessee, St. Louis, Washington....

 

[BigStar]

Having a super bowl caliber crew doesn't come along that easily. When you have it you have to try to maximize it. Just look at the number of teams that struggle to find a franchise QB... You can find yourself wasting high end draft picks trying to build your team for years... Detroit, Miami, NY Jets, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Oakland, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Arizona, Chicago*, Cincinnati*, Tennessee, St. Louis, Washington....

We have had a franchise QB since 07'? Wasting his years is what I am most mad about...

 

[Galian Beast]

We have had a franchise QB since 07'? Wasting his years is what I am most mad about...

Wasted a lot of Romo's career and again despite some guy's sig I blame Parcells a lot for that.

Trades Galloway for Keyshawn Johnson
Drafts Bradie James in the 4th round
Trades down when he could have drafted Steven Jackson
Missed completely on Rogers and Peterman
2004 is generally a terrible draft almost as bad as 2009
Drafts Marcus Spears in the 1st round making the trade down even worse.
Ruins Julius Jones by having him gain weight
Never gave Kevin Burnett a chance
drafts another running back in the 4th round in 2005
drafts bobby carpenter as if he was the ideal 3-4 outside linebacker...
drafts fasano in the 2nd round even though we already have witten
another 3-4 defensive end in hatcher who would take years to develop
Couldn't handle Antonio Bryant who went on to have two 1000+ yard seasons

The best things that Parcells did

drafted DeMarcus Ware, which was Jerry's idea.
Signed Romo, which was Sean Payton's idea.
Drafted Jason Witten.

Most of Parcells' success here was simply a matter of the team recovering from the 90s team collapse. The turn to the 3-4, especially as designed by Parcells was a major speed bump in the recovery of this team. Look how quickly Zimmer was able to turn around the Bengals...

Took them from 19th in defense to 6th in defense the next year. They've had a top 12 defense every since except once.

 

[jrumann59]

I just hope that the Cowboys will be able to retain Will McClay in the near future.

Hopefully create a position or something and give him a bump. Maybe Stephen gets in his ear and tells him to be patient and when Jerry is gone the GM position is his. I really do not think Stephen will be the head guy and gm when Jerry decides to ride off into the sunset.

 

[Galian Beast]

Hopefully create a position or something and give him a bump. Maybe Stephen gets in his ear and tells him to be patient and when Jerry is gone the GM position is his. I really do not think Stephen will be the head guy and gm when Jerry decides to ride off into the sunset.

I think Stephen will hire a GM when he is the owner. Perhaps even Will McClay.

 

[Clove]

Nice ref.

I guess you caught on, I'm a big Senifeld fan. haha

 

[Garrettop]

What did he do outside of Wade again? Was ably not fired, etc. by changing his offensive philosophy in the 180 sense, etc.? Throw your offensive gameplan in the trash and go with a running game that you never tried to establish through the first 3 years of 8-8? Blame whatever your like, the team could have been in the playoffs *easily, w/o the need to throw on 3rd and 2. But, now we're ready? Only took 3 OL in the first. I could have told you that? I want to be an NFL coach but want a franchise QB, three OL in the first round, a top 5 WR, etc.? What doesn't JG have to win?

You might have wanted first round talents across the line, but not every team does, and Jerry was content to stock the line via FA for the most part prior to Garrett. Last year was the plan all along, not a "180 reversal".

 

[theogt]

Just a couple thoughts:

1. Jerry pretty much deserves sole credit for the Collins addition.

2. Garrett appeared much less enthusiastic than Jerry did (almost forlorn, even) when we picked Gregory at 60.

Without those two pickups this is a much less impressive offseason, and they look to be 100% Jerry moves. And it was Jerry that set the ultimatum to fix the defense this offseason (though anyone with a brain knew that was needed), so he deserves some credit for Byron Jones as well.

This is just the same story we've heard for years in which Jerry gets all the blame but none of the credit.

 

[jnday]

There were folks that posted that "Stephen would be Jerry 2" inferring disjointed club management.

I've yet to see that.

I think Stephen lacks the impulsiveness and he is much more conservative than Jerry. I believe that Stephen has also followed the advice of the "football men" that knows the direction and type of players that are needed. Stephen has much more restraint than Jerry and he does not have the ego. I am glad Jerry has turned more of the decision making over to him, because it gives hope for the future and hope that the Cowboys can be contenders year after year. Jerry is s salesman and that is valuable in situations like the Collin's signing. I hope he stays are the face of the Cowboys and stays out of the roster building side of things.

 

[jnday]

Just a couple thoughts:

1. Jerry pretty much deserves sole credit for the Collins addition.

2. Garrett appeared much less enthusiastic than Jerry did (almost forlorn, even) when we picked Gregory at 60.

Without those two pickups this is a much less impressive offseason, and they look to be 100% Jerry moves. And it was Jerry that set the ultimatum to fix the defense this offseason (though anyone with a brain knew that was needed), so he deserves some credit for Byron Jones as well.

This is just the same story we've heard for years in which Jerry gets all the blame but none of the credit.

Jerry gets credit. He is a very good owner and should get credit for it. He is a bad GM and he should get credit for the years of bad decisions that he played a major part in. His decisions were the reason that the team was joke for many years and there are really too many bad decisions to list.

 

[tyke1doe]

I hate when people make it an issue of character vs. talent. It's not an either or. It's a both.

The Cowboys, as do other teams, pick guys based on character AND talent. They just believe that the character flaws aren't as daunting as their ability to coach or mentor them through them. If a player seems "redeemable" they take the chance. If they aren't they won't.

I didn't want us to sign Hardy. But now that he's here, I have to trust that he'll get it together. If he doesn't, it'll play itself out.

 

[manster4ever]

Lmao