Jerry, please do not sign AP

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He's old for a team that is moving to youth.

He's also shown in other contexts that physical limitations that apply to most athletes don't necessarily apply to him. It's not unreasonable to suppose that a guy that seems to heal faster than others is also less susceptible to being ravaged by the passage of time.
 

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I don't get the number of fans salivating about the prospects of signing Peterson. That would mean we gaffed off Murray who is younger and home grown. How do you think the rest of the team is going to perceive that? I don't think very favorably. It would be a typical Jerry move from years past. I hope he's still past that kind of reckless behavior and doesn't fall back on his clueless fan like actions of the past.

I don't think letting Murray walk is a typical Jerry move, paying him a huge contract for more years than he can play a at high level for is. I'm no AP fan but he could be the difference maker, Murray is not going to play better than last year and that wasn't enough. Chemistry is a very important thing, but winning lubricates that.
 

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He's old for a team that is moving to youth. We are already old at QB and TE on offense. Heck we are pretty near crippled at QB

Yeah, but he plays a position where you can find a young starter 4-5 rounds deep in a given draft that has the lightest learning curve of any position on offense. You're looking for impact.

We're not old at TE as a position group. And That near-crippled QB just put up the best season of any QB in the league last year. If you can help him, you do it. Tony could throw all day to that old slow TE and to Dez Bryant if he got the defenses Christian Ponder got ADs last two seasons. And AD could run All Day if Tony didn't.
 

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Yeah, but he plays a position where you can find a young starter 4-5 rounds deep in a given draft that has the lightest learning curve of any position on offense. You're looking for impact.

We're not old at TE as a position group. And That near-crippled QB just put up the best season of any QB in the league last year. If you can help him, you do it. Tony could throw all day to that old slow TE and to Dez Bryant if he got the defenses Christian Ponder got ADs last two seasons. And AD could run All Day if Tony didn't.

I was half kidding about Tony and Witten.;) I just don't see adding age to an aged group as effective. If it's so easy to plug in a back our scouts must really have sucked between Emmitt and Murray. Or should I say since Emmitt. Because Murray is the best since and according to some he's not worth having back. I guess rolling with a freak is the way to go. If he still a freak.
 

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Couldn't that be attributed to the Oline finally being good and our commitment to running the ball?
I doubt Murray will gain ridicules yards again but he may, and may be able to do it for a few more years.
AP got another year older and only performed a special year once also.
He may be able to do it again behind this line but for a year?
Giving up a big part of the offensive success for a what if is crazy talk to me.

PS: I await your reply stash:)

I don't see how the line helps Murray stay healthy. I see that as a "I can't afford to miss a game" kinda thing. Maybe it's just me
 

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I don't see how the line helps Murray stay healthy. I see that as a "I can't afford to miss a game" kinda thing. Maybe it's just me

Not getting slammed every play because your line could actually block helps a RB stay healthy.
 

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If we can get 2 more good years out of Romo and AP I'll be overjoyed..
 

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I don't get the number of fans salivating about the prospects of signing Peterson. That would mean we gaffed off Murray who is younger and home grown. How do you think the rest of the team is going to perceive that? I don't think very favorably. It would be a typical Jerry move from years past. I hope he's still past that kind of reckless behavior and doesn't fall back on his clueless fan like actions of the past.

What if Peterson is willing to play for the price they wanted Murray to play for? It's clueless to sign the best RB of this Generation?
 

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And they would also see that they now have arguably the best RB in the NFL. I don't think there will be any tears at Valley Ranch for that.

In fact, a lot of players tend to say, "Go get yours" or "Go get paid." They understand when a fellow team members leaves for, er, greener pastures.
 

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This is definitely a case of Murray performing only because it was his contract year. Notice he decided not to fracture his ankle this year because it was a contract year. He let that kind of stuff happen his rookie season when his contract didn't matter.
 

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This is definitely a case of Murray performing only because it was his contract year. Notice he decided not to fracture his ankle this year because it was a contract year. He let that kind of stuff happen his rookie season when his contract didn't matter.

:laugh:
 

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To not want the best RB playing on your team if he is available just makes no sense to me. It's a great debate but man would his precence alone vault this team to another level.
 

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If AP helps us win, the players won't care. In fact, most of them know it's a business.

I'm not going to worry about this. The way I see it, in any scenario, the Cowboys emerge smelling like roses. Why?

1. We sign Murray, we maintain continuity.
2. We sign AP, we'll be getting a determined back with something to prove and a back who is better than Murray.
3. We sign neither, we search for a back in the open market. Mark Ingram, whom Jason Garrett wanted when he came out, is available. We sign a hungry Ingram, who is finally healthy, relatively speaking, of course, for a running back.
4. We sign neither Murray, AP or Ingram and possible grab Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon in the draft, and they step in and our running game doesn't lose a beat.
5. We sign a FA (Ingram) then select another of the available backs in the draft (Johnson, Yeldon, Abdullah, Coleman) not named Gurley or Gordon.

I'm really not worried about the running back position, especially with this line. The defensive line? Very worried. Running back? Nope.

Good way to break this down (at least for myself).
I haven't busted a blood vessel over this position and I doubt I will until I see stupid contract numbers on this team's next starting RB.
Otherwise I think this will break in the team's favor no matter what.
 

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To not want the best RB playing on your team if he is available just makes no sense to me. It's a great debate but man would his precence alone vault this team to another level.

Adrian Peterson is no longer the best running back in the NFL. This isn't 2012 anymore.
 

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Not getting slammed every play because your line could actually block helps a RB stay healthy.

Oh I agree. But a lot of Murray's injuries were self inflicted in the past because he loves contact lol. I love Murray don't get me wrong. But if Murray wants 6-7 and AP wants 5 I'm going Ap
 

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Guarantee the skeptics will be the 1st screaming tears of joy after AP's 1st 175yd game. Make it happen Jerry... :dance::flagwave:
 

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Oh I agree. But a lot of Murray's injuries were self inflicted in the past because he loves contact lol. I love Murray don't get me wrong. But if Murray wants 6-7 and AP wants 5 I'm going Ap

If Murray wants to much, I'm going younger. Not banking my hopes on a guy who's best season was 2012.
And statistically not much better than what I let go with a few years more years to base the stats on.
 

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If AP helps us win, the players won't care. In fact, most of them know it's a business.

I'm not going to worry about this. The way I see it, in any scenario, the Cowboys emerge smelling like roses. Why?

1. We sign Murray, we maintain continuity.
2. We sign AP, we'll be getting a determined back with something to prove and a back who is better than Murray.
3. We sign neither, we search for a back in the open market. Mark Ingram, whom Jason Garrett wanted when he came out, is available. We sign a hungry Ingram, who is finally healthy, relatively speaking, of course, for a running back.
4. We sign neither Murray, AP or Ingram and possible grab Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon in the draft, and they step in and our running game doesn't lose a beat.
5. We sign a FA (Ingram) then select another of the available backs in the draft (Johnson, Yeldon, Abdullah, Coleman) not named Gurley or Gordon.

I'm really not worried about the running back position, especially with this line. The defensive line? Very worried. Running back? Nope.
What's better a 1000 Rushing Yards or 10 Sacks?
 
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