Jerry, take notice

[Seven]

The early 90s were great, but no other GM would still have his job in 2018 with Jerry's entire track record. He'd have been fired years ago, a 75 year old man the game left behind.

That's just it.

Would any team hire jed to be their GM? Today, right now.

That's all we really need to know.......and we do.

 

[robjay04]

It didn't backfire on them unless you think spending a lot of money in FA on defense somehow made Manning crappier in 2017 and McAdoo dumber and worse of a head coach. The Giants did not suck in 2017 because of their FA spending in 2016.

I think they were more strapped in 2018 and failed to address their glaring needs. Their OL was in shambles, they couldn’t run the ball and even their defense took a step back. I think a reason for that is not retaining Hankins.

Plus the Giants haven’t really drafted well. You can buy some quick wins in free agency but if you don’t draft well, you won’t experience any longetivity.

I personally wish the Cowboys were a bit more active but I don’t want to chase players for huge contracts either.

 

[LocimusPrime]

It's called ego. Jerry would swim with sharks on the open sea just to say he did. This has been the downfall of many leaders over the millennia.

I love the foo fighters. Right on brother

 

[foofighters]

I love the foo fighters. Right on brother

saw them in concert a few months ago. 2.5 hours of Dave and company. It was great time. I don't know that band does 2 plus hours of concerts every time they do a show.

 

[cowboy_ron]

http://es.pn/2qJ1Rjg

It really is not that difficult. But before you do anything, step down, hire a real football General Manager, show a sense of purpose rather than narcissism. You are a great man, a rich man, a wildcatting river boat gambling man but, but you are as dense as a rock when it comes to football. Then after that bit of humble, do it for the team and the city and your fans all over the world, let the New General Manager, who OBTW is not to be named Stephen, follow the above template and bring glory back to Cowboys Nation.

I'm surprised this topic has never been mentioned before.

 

[GenoT]

Catch-22:

If Jerry Jones were to step down from the job and decide to hire a “real football guy” for the GM position, guess which 75yo “not a real football guy” would be evaluating the candidates and making the final decision on the hire...?

 

[Asklesko]

Anyone expecting Jerry to change needs to get real. J-Hab will chase his white whale down to the bottom of hell.

 

[Big_D]

Unfortunately Jerry is here to screw this team up for years to come..

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Well written and compelling.

As you show, Jerry is a "football" guy, but there's a difference between knowing football and being able to adequately assess talent and how the talent fits in the overall team needs and dynamics. We all have an intrinsic bias, there are coaches that are "defensive" minded and those that are "offensive" minded. Jerry is "star" or "name" biased. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to win, it's just that he will opt to go the big-name free agent route. And, as you point out, that normally means big contracts that become an anchor around the neck of the team.

I would argue that, more than free agency, the salary cap is the primary cause of the Cowboys struggles. There is no doubt in my mind that Jerry would spend into oblivion to win absent the salary cap. Of course, he's not the only one. Little Danny Snyder would do the same.

Jimmy knew the time to leave was when you were on top, not after you fell from the top. He did it everywhere he went. Not many people can and will do that. I don't know what would've happened had Jimmy stayed, maybe we win 3 in a row, maybe not. Jimmy's psychological and authoritarian approach was starting to wear thin. Replacing him with Barry was actually a good move - short term success will almost always result if a relaxed atmosphere follows an authoritarian regime. Same thing occurred with Wade after Parcells. But it's not a recipe for long-term success.

I'm cautiously optimistic about next year and the future. In part because Jerry obviously has stepped back. Had he not, we'd have gone down the Johnny Manziel path which would've been a complete disaster. Just see what happened this year with the Zeke fiasco. I'm cautious, however, because it completely depends on the progression of Dak and whether he can be a capable QB on a Super Bowl caliber team. I don't know the answer to that. He was never supposed to be a rookie starter - he was a 4th round project that was to develop while Romo played the twilight of his career. In reality, Dak wasn't supposed to see the field until his 3rd or 4th year.

Outstanding, and thank you. Yes, I agree with your "star" biased assessment, which again is an outgrowth of wearing two hats. Of course an owner wants stars. A good GM can calm an owner's desire. Perhaps there are respected voices now taking that role.

 

[BHendri5]

WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER A REAL GENERAL MANAGER? Really a GM's job is not to find the talent but to make the deals. Jerry is not finding the talent he has Will , his son Garrett, the scouts and the coordinators telling them what players they want. So really we have no problem there anymore. All Jerry is doing is making the deals the contracts. What are you crying about?

 

[kskboys]

WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER A REAL GENERAL MANAGER? Really a GM's job is not to find the talent but to make the deals. Jerry is not finding the talent he has Will , his son Garrett, the scouts and the coordinators telling them what players they want. So really we have no problem there anymore. All Jerry is doing is making the deals the contracts. What are you crying about?

Not even that. A GM's job is to put the staff together to find the players. Any success or failure is on the GM. So, Jerry gets absolutely full credit for the 3 super bowls, and absolutely full credit for the major clusterfudge since.

Scouts don't tell you what players to get. They tell you what their analyses of players is. It is up to the GM to sift through tons of scouting reports and film to make a decision.

 

[Motown12]

I think that he "won" those Super Bowls in spite of himself.

Let's face it, when he came in, he didn't know a thing about running a football team. And that was ultimately a good thing.

It meant that he listened to Jimmy and stayed out of the way. Only after a few years, when he got more "comfortable" (that hated word), did he begin to assert himself more. And the poor results followed.

Eventually, his influence was enough to drive a wedge between he and Johnson, leading to the split that inevitably cost this team one championship and possibly more.

And it's been that way for most of his tenure since, save for the Parcells era, and even then, he had to make some of his moves (TO).

Sadly, that one move with Parcells is my sole reason for hope at this point, that Jones might one day again realize that he needs to "take a step back in order for the team to move forward." In fact, I hear that exact quote in my head. Likely wishful thinking, but it's my biggest reason for optimism right now.

I agree but there is one thing that has always bugged me about Jimmy Johnson. He absolutely hates having a boss (who doesn't?) but he just couldn't stop poking a stick at Jerry whenever the opportunity arose. Jerry did not know anything about running a football team and was mocked for his early statements but I have to give him credit for one thing. He said Jimmy would be worth 5 first round picks and 5 heisman trophy winners. And he turned out to be right. That is a bold statement to make about coach although great at Miami, had never coached in the NFL and no team to my knowledge was busting down his door trying to hire him. Let's face it, with a few rare exceptions some of the best college coaches ever tried to coach at the NFL level and most were disasters.

Jerry was his boss and he did not and has never liked having a boss to answer too. He hated it at Miami just as he did in Dallas. Jerry gave him a ten year contract which was unheard of before or since (other than Landry in the mid 60's or now John Gruden). Giving him ultimate job security without having to worry about being fired if he could not turn the team around right away. Jerry helped Jimmy out financially with his divorce which he was under no obligation to do. Jimmy never showed any appreciation to Jerry for any of that. The quotes about the Jacksonville job, etc. Even years later when asked about some of this stuff, Jimmy said he would of received an offer to coach at the NFL level at some point. That maybe true but it wasn't happening in 1988.

I have read every book, every article that I can on this situation and I know only those two guys know the whole truth. It would drive any self respecting coach nuts with Jerry on the sideline and making media quotes every day. This new found spotlight is and sadly remains Jerry's drug and he can't or refuses to kick the habit. I just wish Jimmy could have found a way to let Jerry feel like one of the guys. I know that Jimmy burns out quick wherever he goes, but man just a few more years and the Cowboys of the 90's probably win 5 rings and would have been considered the greatest dynasty ever. Man what could have been..sigh...sorry to ramble but that was a little therapeutic for me...I feel better know..thanks.

 

[Stash]

I agree but there is one thing that has always bugged me about Jimmy Johnson. He absolutely hates having a boss (who doesn't?) but he just couldn't stop poking a stick at Jerry whenever the opportunity arose. Jerry did not know anything about running a football team and was mocked for his early statements but I have to give him credit for one thing. He said Jimmy would be worth 5 first round picks and 5 heisman trophy winners. And he turned out to be right. That is a bold statement to make about coach although great at Miami, had never coached in the NFL and no team to my knowledge was busting down his door trying to hire him. Let's face it, with a few rare exceptions some of the best college coaches ever tried to coach at the NFL level and most were disasters.

Jerry was his boss and he did not and has never liked having a boss to answer too. He hated it at Miami just as he did in Dallas. Jerry gave him a ten year contract which was unheard of before or since (other than Landry in the mid 60's or now John Gruden). Giving him ultimate job security without having to worry about being fired if he could not turn the team around right away. Jerry helped Jimmy out financially with his divorce which he was under no obligation to do. Jimmy never showed any appreciation to Jerry for any of that. The quotes about the Jacksonville job, etc. Even years later when asked about some of this stuff, Jimmy said he would of received an offer to coach at the NFL level at some point. That maybe true but it wasn't happening in 1988.

I have read every book, every article that I can on this situation and I know only those two guys know the whole truth. It would drive any self respecting coach nuts with Jerry on the sideline and making media quotes every day. This new found spotlight is and sadly remains Jerry's drug and he can't or refuses to kick the habit. I just wish Jimmy could have found a way to let Jerry feel like one of the guys. I know that Jimmy burns out quick wherever he goes, but man just a few more years and the Cowboys of the 90's probably win 5 rings and would have been considered the greatest dynasty ever. Man what could have been..sigh...sorry to ramble but that was a little therapeutic for me...I feel better know..thanks.

Don't ever be sorry. Believe me, you've got plenty of company!

Consider this a therapy session.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

Unfortunately Jerry is here to screw this team up for years to come..

How long can a billionaire that abuses scotch, blow, and hookers to his extent last ? Let's face it, Jerrah's not a health freak and he's 75. I'd give him 5 years at most. I think I'll outlast him. I've been around since 1966 as a Cowboy fan. We'll see.

In the meantime screw the Beagles, their team, their coaches, their management, and their fans.

 

[Big_D]

How long can a billionaire that abuses scotch, blow, and hookers to his extent last ? Let's face it, Jerrah's not a health freak and he's 75. I'd give him 5 years at most. I think I'll outlast him. I've been around since 1966 as a Cowboy fan. We'll see.

In the meantime screw the Beagles, their team, their coaches, their management, and their fans.

It's the scotch, blow and hookers that keeps him young!!!

 

[Captain43Crash]

You mean hire a FULL TIME GM so Jerry would be losing the best PART TIME job in the country.

How many other NFL GMs get to schedule concerts, soccer games, WWF in there stadium? How many other NFL GMs represent their team at owner meetings? How many other NFL GMs run marketing, sales and publicity for their teams?

Well none, because it wouldn't allow them enough time to do their real job of managing all aspects of building the team.

If an average GM works 50 hours/week at their job, how many hours/week do you think JJ dedicates to GM responsibilities (vs. the other things he does as a businessman and owner) for the Cowboys? (Hint) Looks at the results of the last 20 years to get your answer.

Face it, 31 other teams have a GM that is dedicated to making their team better, the Cowboys have a spoiled rich billionaire that uses the GM role as a fun hobby.

The problem with this team is not Jerry and Stephen’s involvement in player acquisition. We have as much talent as just about any team. The problem is Jerry’s refusal to fire Garrett. If Jerry REALLY wanted to win he would get rid of his below average coach. Jerry wants to put on A GOOD SHOW more than anything. He is a salesman. A couple years ago after we lost a close high scoring game he said, something about what a great show we put on. The show sucked, Jerry. We lost that game. If I was building a team I would focus on the defense, O line, and QB. We put to much of our salary Cap on the Offense. I am losing confidence in Jerry. Haven’t had any confidence in Garrett since 1015.

 

[jobberone]

This entire life is about feeling good. Everything we do, is to feel better. We watch TV, makes us feel better. We fight, it makes us feel better to win. We have the last word, it makes us feel better. We drink, we have this amazing job so we can have better things, which makes us feel better. And in Jerry's mind, being owner, GM, and mr everything makes him feel better.

It feels better to Jerry to do things his way, than to ultimately win.

We are much more than that in general. We are compassionate, altruistic, empathetic, loving and caring as well. It is part of the social fabric of our development and nature. /rant off

Jerry does appear to have narcissistic tendencies.

 

[Clove]

We are much more than that in general. We are compassionate, altruistic, empathetic, loving and caring as well. It is part of the social fabric of our development and nature. /rant off

Jerry does appear to have narcissistic tendencies.

It felt good to say that, didn't it?

 

[jobberone]

It felt good to say that, didn't it?

Just the facts ma'am.

 

[Clove]

Just the facts ma'am.

I've already given you the facts, you can take it how you want. Ma'am.