Jerry throwing everyone under the bus

[DallasEast]

Again, I am not saying he doesn't listen to others.

That's all I'm saying.

And this proves it. But I am saying his ego doesn't allow him not to take credit and be the final arbiter of what decisions are made..

Jones' narcissism was apparent 27 years. He will die a narcissist. I accepted that decades ago. No one must accept his personality but it is what it is.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Again, just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it cannot work out. Skill players are interchangeable in this scenario.

Anything can work if done right.

But using a future 1st round pick to trade up into the first for a QB hasnt worked and for good reason. Its a desperation move. The difference in senarios between Emmitt and trading future firsts for a first round QB is that we didnt trade very valuable future assets for a prospect that wasnt worth it purely out desperation. It could work. The QB can prove to be worth. It hasnt yet, at least as long as I can remember.
QB prospects late in the first typically dont have a high success rate begin with. Trading a future first for one can only compound the risk.

I loved Lynch as a prospect. But trading a 2017 first for him is a move Im glad they didnt make because that 2017 first is a pick you may need to support that QB

 

[TwoDeep3]

LOL...I bet he did. This opinion you guys have of Jerry is funny. When the moves are bad he's controlling and don't listen to his scouts. But when a move works out he was kicking and screaming and pouting. AS if Jerry doesn't have control of the Cowboys lol. Like he doesn't own them lol.

Your response would be on point if it weren't misleading at best.

Stephen came out and said they stood up against Jerry on Manziel. Why would they have to form a united front and "stand up" against Jerry if his vote didn't count way more than the others. And even when several of the others agree?

Just curious how you reconcile that fact.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not sure what your point is. Based on this comment...something stopped 31 teams last year! I am not a spoiled fan that thinks a Super Bowl trophy is the ONLY way to measure a season. Heck...once Romo got hurt...I was not even expecting playoffs. But I did expect our team to be able to get 1st downs! I did expect a more pleasurable viewing experience on Sundays than what we got. We were told the most improved player on the team was Weeden! Well...it did not take long to realize that was not true.

You made comments about the Ravens and how they keep winning, and they weren't stopped...I was just saying something stopped them last year, as they picked 2 spots behind us, and as far as I know they were healthy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Your response would be on point if it weren't misleading at best.

Stephen came out and said they stood up against Jerry on Manziel. Why would they have to form a united front and "stand up" against Jerry if his vote didn't count way more than the others. And even when several of the others agree?

Just curious how you reconcile that fact.

So this was the first time they ever stood up to big bad Jerry......I'm not buying it. I'd love to but it makes no sense and its inconsistent with Jerry's history here and it goes against this whole mantra you guys have made that "he wants to win a Super Bowl without Jimmy....".

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't think Jerry could have done much to get that seahawk pick. They were intent on staying in the first round to keep the 5th year option.

Only way was to offer up the 1 next year

What is scary is that I think Jerry would have done it

 

[viman96]

Jerry did not throw anyone under the bus

 

[texbumthelife]

Did I miss the part where Jerry threw someone under the bus? All I see here is an owner voicing opinions about the draft.

 

[ConceptCoop]

He has admitted that he wanted Paxton Lynch.....then Connor Cook. Hope Dak enjoys coming to work knowing he was an afterthought.

And he has complained about NOT overpaying to get Lynch. Which is his way of letting everyone else know that if it was up to him, he would have overpaid. So not sure if this is good or bad....but it certainly confirms Jerry is not pulling the strings. He is letting us know that if Paxton Lynch turns out to be a stud...."don't blame me".

But this is what it boils down to for me. He should show a united front. What's done is done. And you don't let your new players know that you really wanted someone else. And you don't out the front office/coaching staff by letting everyone know you disagreed with the direction they took. Of course this stuff happens....but the quality organizations don't come out and SAY it.

There is too much transparency. We are an open book. It is simply unprofessional. And I know nothing can be done about it...but if you cannot muzzle him after all these years.....I think it will get even worse as he starts to circle the drain.

You don't get attention for the things you don't say. And Jerry needs attention, damn it!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

He has admitted that he wanted Paxton Lynch.....then Connor Cook. Hope Dak enjoys coming to work knowing he was an afterthought.

And he has complained about NOT overpaying to get Lynch. Which is his way of letting everyone else know that if it was up to him, he would have overpaid. So not sure if this is good or bad....but it certainly confirms Jerry is not pulling the strings. He is letting us know that if Paxton Lynch turns out to be a stud...."don't blame me".

But this is what it boils down to for me. He should show a united front. What's done is done. And you don't let your new players know that you really wanted someone else. And you don't out the front office/coaching staff by letting everyone know you disagreed with the direction they took. Of course this stuff happens....but the quality organizations don't come out and SAY it.

There is too much transparency. We are an open book. It is simply unprofessional. And I know nothing can be done about it...but if you cannot muzzle him after all these years.....I think it will get even worse as he starts to circle the drain.

Yay, as you are throwing Jerry under the Bus!!!

 

[Doomsday101]

He has admitted that he wanted Paxton Lynch.....then Connor Cook. Hope Dak enjoys coming to work knowing he was an afterthought.

And he has complained about NOT overpaying to get Lynch. Which is his way of letting everyone else know that if it was up to him, he would have overpaid. So not sure if this is good or bad....but it certainly confirms Jerry is not pulling the strings. He is letting us know that if Paxton Lynch turns out to be a stud...."don't blame me".

But this is what it boils down to for me. He should show a united front. What's done is done. And you don't let your new players know that you really wanted someone else. And you don't out the front office/coaching staff by letting everyone know you disagreed with the direction they took. Of course this stuff happens....but the quality organizations don't come out and SAY it.

There is too much transparency. We are an open book. It is simply unprofessional. And I know nothing can be done about it...but if you cannot muzzle him after all these years.....I think it will get even worse as he starts to circle the drain.

How is jerry throwing people under the bus? He is the Owner and GM if Jerry wanted to over pay he would have. Stephen works under Jerry and the rest work for Jerry he is the final say. I'm sure he and others wanted Lynch and made an offer to the seahawks to have a chance to get him they missed out on it. Within a draft you will miss out on some players you really would have liked but because the price is to high you end up passing on the player. I'm sure Jerry was getting ample input from a number of people on draft day but in the end he is the final say.

 

[zrinkill]

They are lucky ........ you don't want to see what he does to them inside the bus ......

 

[CCBoy]

Just awaken this fan when some real information enters the thread...and not lame crap framing exercises.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Right. Jerry is not as stupid as people want you to think. He may not be a great talent evaluator but he's not a morn. He carefully and intentionally says things in the media.

Master manipulator. Plays different roles when it's necessary: the grandfather, nice, gentleman family guy- when he's trying to pitch to free agents esp UDFAs The "aww shucks I want me some glory_hole" to the media ect. He's savvy

 

[CCBoy]

Your response would be on point if it weren't misleading at best.

Stephen came out and said they stood up against Jerry on Manziel. Why would they have to form a united front and "stand up" against Jerry if his vote didn't count way more than the others. And even when several of the others agree?

Just curious how you reconcile that fact.

Oh, sure...and disregarding that Sean Lee would have been in his face and slamming him against the wall lockers...

 

[TwoDeep3]

Oh, sure...and disregarding that Sean Lee would have been in his face and slamming him against the wall lockers...

So are you saying Sean Lee was in the war room when they were making the decision on Manzeil?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Master manipulator. Plays different roles when it's necessary: the grandfather, nice, gentleman family guy- when he's trying to pitch to free agents esp UDFAs The "aww shucks I want me some glory_hole" to the media ect. He's savvy

You are right...he IS a master manipulator! Somehow he has raised the value of this franchise ABOVE every other sports franchise in the world. And he's done it without winning in over 20 years. He even has fans on this forum DIVIDED as to what kind of franchise this is. When you have not won ANYTHING....since Jimmy/Jimmy players left the building...I am not sure what there is to debate. We have 20 years of EVIDENCE...of what Jerry has produced ON the field...and yet we are divided on whether he and has family are competent at putting a winning product on the field. So you better believe he is a master manipulator. And quite frankly...it's really not hard to figure out what he values ABOVE all else. All you have to do is look at the ONLY thing he is winning at.

 

[CCBoy]

So are you saying Sean Lee was in the war room when they were making the decision on Manzeil?

Try responding without an already stamped agenda...I stated, and didn't stutter, that the locker room for Dallas could have handled a Manzeill. Why? You saying that they are candy assed there?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Try responding without an already stamped agenda...I stated, and didn't stutter, that the locker room for Dallas could have handled a Manziel. Why? You saying that they are candy assed there?

Some people just aren't born with good sense. Manziel would be one. Regardless of Lee pushing him around, I think it is evident he would have made TO look like Witten in the behavior department.

Narcissists don't care. They think of themselves first and foremost and others just don't matter.

Manziel is that type of individual. He is Hell bent on destroying what talent he has.

But back to the point of my discussion. Jerry wanted him and would have drafted him if there wasn't such a vocal discord pointed his direction by others in the room. He even admitted that.

And the team itself would not have made Manziel toe the line. This isn't about being weak. It's about the guy's two-cent head.

 

[CCBoy]

Some people just aren't born with good sense. Manziel would be one. Regardless of Lee pushing him around, I think it is evident he would have made TO look like Witten in the behavior department.

Narcissists don't care. They think of themselves first and foremost and others just don't matter.

Manziel is that type of individual. He is Hell bent on destroying what talent he has.

But back to the point of my discussion. Jerry wanted him and would have drafted him if there wasn't such a vocal discord pointed his direction by others in the room. He even admitted that.

And the team itself would not have made Manziel toe the line. This isn't about being weak. It's about the guy's two-cent head.

He definitely got his two cents worth in. Too bad, that was the total as well...

but the point on Jerry's side, like with Paul Harvey, the rest of the story on Manziel has just now come out this past half year. I doubt that he was this finished product of a lost soul, upon graduating from A&M. And he did have great talent before losing the battle with a Ryan Leaf type personality chore. He will probably have to bottom out at a very low level, to recover.

To a person like Jerry, who bets on the merit in a man's life, saying he was gullible to journeys possible, really isn't a true image of someone who survived coming through that hell hole called wild cating back then . There, ego sometimes created great players of industry, and even great men.


This is what Jaylon Smith just stated:

“Absolutely … I’m not ruling myself out. I never have and I never will,” Smith said in reference to Jones’ comments. “It’s all a part of God’s plan. For the owner to have faith in me, that says a lot. I’m ready to get to work, grind hard and get back out there.”

Actually, there were two interesting aspects of Jones’ statement on 105.3 FM “The Fan” on Thursday. Not only did he say Smith might not begin the season on injured reserve, but Jones also offered that Smith could be “ready for the playoffs.”

Then there is the trail with the signing of Hardy, and declaring that a failure after a single season. Jerry was in that decision as well...

Jerry isn't a fool...a gambler sometimes, yea, I'll take that label. Not the fool.