Jim Brown: Adrian Peterson could break rushing mark

[joseephuss]

True. But if not for "more" chances/games then Hank Aaron never sniffs Babe Ruth home run record.

The wear and tear of playing more games in baseball is not the same as what a running back would endure.

I agree that Aaron got more chances, but it wasn't just because of the increase of games in a season. Hank played 23 seasons with the first 8 years during the 154 game schedule. He could have possibly played in 3662 games over his career. Had his whole career been played with a 154 game schedule he would have potentially played 3542 total games. That is a 120 game difference. Take out the number of home runs he averaged for game for 120 games and he would be down to 730.

Hank just played a lot of games period. The increased schedule helped, but he was going to play a lot of games no matter what. His 3298 games played ranks third all-time. Subtract that 120 games due to the increased schedule and he would still rank third all-time.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

If anyone has a shot at it with needing those kinds of numbers it would be AP.

I don't think he's going to get it. It's just many yards to go and you're asking an aging running back to keep taking on the work load at 32 he had when he was 25. It's just not realistic.

 

[Doomsday101]

If anyone has a shot at it with needing those kinds of numbers it would be AP.

I don't think he's going to get it. It's just many yards to go and you're asking an aging running back to keep taking on the work load at 32 he had when he was 25. It's just not realistic.

I agree it is highly unlikely but I will say if he can stay healthy and stay in top shape then he can. After all this is the guy who had reconstructive knee surgery then turns around the following year and puts up 2000 yards that has never happened before where a guy actually puts up those numbers coming off a major injury.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The wear and tear of playing more games in baseball is not the same as what a running back would endure.

I agree that Aaron got more chances, but it wasn't just because of the increase of games in a season. Hank played 23 seasons with the first 8 years during the 154 game schedule. He could have possibly played in 3662 games over his career. Had his whole career been played with a 154 game schedule he would have potentially played 3542 total games. That is a 120 game difference. Take out the number of home runs he averaged for game for 120 games and he would be down to 730.

Hank just played a lot of games period. The increased schedule helped, but he was going to play a lot of games no matter what. His 3298 games played ranks third all-time. Subtract that 120 games due to the increased schedule and he would still rank third all-time.

Sorry. Didn't Aaron have almost 3,000 ?? more at bats? Played in smaller stadiums. Etc...

 

[joseephuss]

Sorry. Didn't Aaron have almost 3,000 ?? more at bats? Played in smaller stadiums. Etc...

Aaron had many more at bats than Ruth. No question; however, that wasn't really due to an expanded schedule. If the league never went to a 162 game season, Aaron would have still ended up with many more games played and many more at bats than Babe Ruth. Ruth was primarily a pitcher his first 4 seasons, so had very few at bats. Aaron definitely had more chances to accumulate his home runs, but the increased schedule(from 154 games to 162 games) had very little impact. He would have probably still broke the record if they stuck to the 154 game format.

 

[mldardy]

Goodell gets his way and we go to a 24 game season Peterson has a chance.

Awesome. Will they have an all star break at mid season.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Aaron had many more at bats than Ruth. No question; however, that wasn't really due to an expanded schedule. If the league never went to a 162 game season, Aaron would have still ended up with many more games played and many more at bats than Babe Ruth. Ruth was primarily a pitcher his first 4 seasons, so had very few at bats. Aaron definitely had more chances to accumulate his home runs, but the increased schedule(from 154 games to 162 games) had very little impact. He would have probably still broke the record if they stuck to the 154 game format.

1. Understood.
2. Agreed. Very different for running back.
3. Without the abundance of more chances he never touches record. That's my only point.

 

[Sarge]

AP showed some signs of slowing down last year albeit,minor. I'd be very curious to see how he plays this year but having said that, I don't see him breaking the record.

 

[viman96]

Most here are ignoring the fact he would have to be better than just about ANY RB at ANY AGE in the history of the NFL just to get into the same ballpark as Emmitt. Let alone pass him.

 

[joseephuss]

Most here are ignoring the fact he would have to be better than just about ANY RB at ANY AGE in the history of the NFL just to get into the same ballpark as Emmitt. Let alone pass him.

Great point. The Vikes also don't have a quality QB, which I doubt changes any time soon. I wonder what the impact of playing their home games over the next two seasons at the Golden Gophers stadium outdoors will have on Peterson's production.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Emmitt also basically had a whole other season because of playoffs. Jeez Emmitt was some kind of special, and doesn't even get the recognition for it.

 

[Ren]

If he can get to within 4000 in the next couple of seasons he's got a legit shot at breaking it. LT looked like he was going to threaten it for a while then without warning age caught up with him, i think the same will happen to Peterson he's had a much bigger work load then Emmitt had

 

[viman96]

Next couple seasons he will be 32-33. You expect AD to gain another 4000+ yds between 33-36? LOL. Again has ANY RB ever done that? Or anything close to that? Obviously not. IMO AD will be lucky to gain 4000-5000 yards before he retires.

 

[joseephuss]

If he can get to within 4000 in the next couple of seasons he's got a legit shot at breaking it. LT looked like he was going to threaten it for a while then without warning age caught up with him, i think the same will happen to Peterson he's had a much bigger work load then Emmitt had

It is also the type of work load. Emmitt had 301 more carries after his first 7 seasons than Peterson has after his first 7 seasons. Peterson's takes more of a pounding with his carries. Emmitt was definitely a physical runner, but he had a knack for avoiding the big hits and minimizing the punishment he received. Peterson gets hit hard over and over. Peterson has missed 8 games in his career and has suffered a major injury after 7 seasons. Emmitt missed 3 games after his first 7 seasons and two of those were due to a hold out.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It is also the type of work load. Emmitt had 301 more carries after his first 7 seasons than Peterson has after his first 7 seasons. Peterson's takes more of a pounding with his carries. Emmitt was definitely a physical runner, but he had a knack for avoiding the big hits and minimizing the punishment he received. Peterson gets hit hard over and over. Peterson has missed 8 games in his career and has suffered a major injury after 7 seasons. Emmitt missed 3 games after his first 7 seasons and two of those were due to a hold out.

Yeah, he had that arm thingy, doohickey that he swatted attacking defenders aside with... Lol

 

[dfense]

Emmitt Smith holds the record at 18,355 yards, which he gained during his 15-year career before retiring at 35.

Peterson has 10,115 yards in his first seven seasons. At 29 years old, the 8,241 yards AD needs to break the record could be hard to come by. Father Time tends to drag down running backs in a swift vortex.

According to the Pioneer Press, Smith rushed for 7,121 yards after turning 29 and the previous record-holder, Walter Payton, gained 7,118 after putting that many candles on his cake.

Peterson's average yards per season took a hit last season, falling to 1,445. At that pace he wouldn't pass Smith for just over five and a half seasons (5.7), which would be in 2019, when he's 34.

The 2014 season will give us a better look at whether or not Peterson's nagging injuries and heavy workload will keep him from the record.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...rown-adrian-peterson-could-break-rushing-mark

Keep dreaming. I heard Tomlinson was going to do it to. Then came the wall.

To listen to a guy like Jim Brown list his top running backs ever, Emmitt is pretty far down the list. Which is a joke. Rushing titles, MVP, SB titles, Emmitt did it all. He was probably the best blocking back of them all. He could catch and was the best goal line back. Barry had more yards for loss than any back and he came out on goal line plays. Jim Brown, considered the greatest ever, was a man amongst boys when he played. He generally weighed in the same as the Dlineman he played against. Can you imagine a RB who was fast and weighed as much as a DT today? What factors in as being the best? How flashy you looked?

Emmitt = too slow, to small. -still the best.

 

[Doomsday101]

Keep dreaming. I heard Tomlinson was going to do it to. Then came the wall.

To listen to a guy like Jim Brown list his top running backs ever, Emmitt is pretty far down the list. Which is a joke. Rushing titles, MVP, SB titles, Emmitt did it all. He was probably the best blocking back of them all. He could catch and was the best goal line back. Barry had more yards for loss than any back and he came out on goal line plays. Jim Brown, considered the greatest ever, was a man amongst boys when he played. He generally weighed in the same as the Dlineman he played against. Can you imagine a RB who was fast and weighed as much as a DT today? What factors in as being the best? How flashy you looked?

Emmitt = too slow, to small. -still the best.

I think it is doubtful that Peterson will but is it possiable? Yes. To break records you have to do the remarkable that is what breaking records is all about, it takes remarkable play from remarkable players to accomplish these feats. I'm a big Emmitt fan and do not think many give him the credit he deserved and earned.

 

[Sarge]

If anyone has a shot at it with needing those kinds of numbers it would be AP.

I don't think he's going to get it. It's just many yards to go and you're asking an aging running back to keep taking on the work load at 32 he had when he was 25. It's just not realistic.

Not to mention he has no QB to scare defenses away and the team itself might be the worst team in the league. Sorry AP, it ain't happening.