Joey Bosa & Ezekiel Elliott: Drug Concerns

[Direwolf63]

When players are picked high in the first round (Elliott may go more toward the mid first round), the expectation is that they are franchise cornerstone players. If you're an NFL team about to pay a kid $5M/year to play football, you're not only counting on them to play at an elite level, but you're expecting them to be a face (if not THE face) of your franchise and to be available for 16 games. The only reason they shouldn't play every game is if they are injured (or in the case of QB's, being developed for the future). Nope, if they're willing to fart around with party drugs while knowing the consequences of getting caught, then I'm not going to pin my franchise's future on them and I'm not going to use a good chunk of my limited salary cap on them, either. Now get them outside of round one and I'll recalculate the risk/reward. The argument that party drug use is excusable if you're a college kid holds a little more water if you're an average college kid going into an average job market ($40-60K/yr), but when you're being paid roughly $5M/year, then the expectations on many fronts are quite different. That's just my humble, amateur opinion of the situation.

Well said. I fully agree.

 

[casmith07]

Bosa just looks like a roider too.

He sure does.

I think he has bust written all over him.

 

[31smackdown]

So.. Bosa is on a "prescription" for Adderall?? .. and this doesn't raise any flags for anyone? .. he must have needed to help him study for classes.. yeah.. that's it..

Basically another suspension waiting to happen if the league does not approve his use of it. And then if he stops taking it his performance will likely decrease and he'll turn back into a slow fat white guy who can't remember the playbook..

 

[bodi]

This sounds like a whole bunch of speculation and dot connecting to me. If you got to enough length you can pick a part pretty much any college kid's behavior. From all accounts both showed up and did their jobs on the practice field and on game days plus kept their grades in check enough to remain eligible. When you're off the field habits affect the on field product that is when fans should care, until then I don't give a damn.

Ohio State DE Joey Bosa

Arguably the top defensive prospect in the draft, Bosa was suspended for the 2015 season opener along with several other teammates for unspecified reasons (ESPN’s Joe Schad reported the suspensions were for “marijuana and academics”). Then Bosa was briefly detained by Columbus police in an August encounter, according to ElevenWarriors.com. By year’s end, Bosa was living chaste and alone in an apartment awaiting his ascent to the NFL, per Joan Niesen of Campus Rush.

how hard is criminal justice or being a high school gym teracher

 

[casmith07]

Of the drugs to get worried about, a little ecstasy is pretty low on the list.

Non-addictive, non-chronic use. It's not like marijuana where someone just loves to wake and bake every day. Ecstasy users only use it when at raves or other parties, generally. Not that it's not equally dangerous and stupid to do, particularly when employment depends on you being drug-free, but we shouldn't have to worry about a guy who maybe went to a rave a couple times in college facing a year long suspension for ecstasy.

Users just don't use it the same way they do something like marijuana, like Gregory, for example.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Honestly who didn't party when they were 20ish?

This, to me, is the problem. When you say, "Who didn't party", it suggests that these kids are in situations other young people are in and that's simply not the case.

Partying with Beer or alcohol is one thing. Partying with Ecstacy or some other illegal drug is entirely different.

I'm not really pointing you out specifically GZ, I am just using your post to try and make a point. Regardless of if partying is standard practice with young people, the opportunity to make more money then 98% of humans on this planet will every see, kinda makes that irrelevant. You have a chance to change your life and that of your families life. You just can't be stupid about it and act like you are like everybody else. We can't view that way either.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Of the drugs to get worried about, a little ecstasy is pretty low on the list.

Non-addictive, non-chronic use. It's not like marijuana where someone just loves to wake and bake every day. Ecstasy users only use it when at raves or other parties, generally. Not that it's not equally dangerous and stupid to do, particularly when employment depends on you being drug-free, but we shouldn't have to worry about a guy who maybe went to a rave a couple times in college facing a year long suspension for ecstasy.

Users just don't use it the same way they do something like marijuana, like Gregory, for example.

Then Noah Spence should be our top pick. Aside from the whole ecstacy addiction thing, he's a stand up dude.

 

[GroundZero1970]

This, to me, is the problem. When you say, "Who didn't party", it suggests that these kids are in situations other young people are in and that's simply not the case.

Partying with Beer or alcohol is one thing. Partying with Ecstacy or some other illegal drug is entirely different.

I'm not really pointing you out specifically GZ, I am just using your post to try and make a point. Regardless of if partying is standard practice with young people, the opportunity to make more money then 98% of humans on this planet will every see, kinda makes that irrelevant. You have a chance to change your life and that of your families life. You just can't be stupid about it and act like you are like everybody else. We can't view that way either.

Oh I fully see your point, if I had millions on the line u better believe I wouldn't be doing that crap either but the generation today is much different than what I grew up in. I believe young people are a little more open and Wilder than kids I grew up with. I dunno maybe my childhood was different cuz I grew up on a military base and my dad told me if I did anything that would affect his military career he would end me lol

 

[DBOY3141]

Oh I fully see your point, if I had millions on the line u better believe I wouldn't be doing that crap either but the generation today is much different than what I grew up in. I believe young people are a little more open and Wilder than kids I grew up with. I dunno maybe my childhood was different cuz I grew up on a military base and my dad told me if I did anything that would affect his military career he would end me lol

I don't know that the generation is different it's just known more now. Heck, Hollywood Henderson said he did coke on the sideline in the Super Bowl vs. Pittsburgh.

Dumb people are going to do dumb things regardless it it's 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 or 2016.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Oh I fully see your point, if I had millions on the line u better believe I wouldn't be doing that crap either but the generation today is much different than what I grew up in. I believe young people are a little more open and Wilder than kids I grew up with. I dunno maybe my childhood was different cuz I grew up on a military base and my dad told me if I did anything that would affect his military career he would end me lol

I agree, kids today are different but that actually kind illustrates what I'm saying. Regardless of how much things have changed, the fact that these players are different is even more pronounced then ever. One of the things that has also changed is the amount of money that these players are getting. More so now, then ever, they have a very rare opportunity to secure their lives for as long as they live. They just can't afford to believe that they are no different then other young people. NFL teams certainly don't look at them that way IMO.

 

[GroundZero1970]

Good point

 

[casmith07]

Then Noah Spence should be our top pick. Aside from the whole ecstacy addiction thing, he's a stand up dude.

Come the **** on. This is not a zero-sum game. Just because situations are different doesn't immediately rocket a player with an obvious addiction problem to the top of the draft board.

Don't be so ******* disingenuous with the debate around here. It's annoying as ****.

 

[fortdick]

I am slightly worried about this after the Gregory Fiasco,other sources have indicated that Bosa might have a drug problem .The FO must be very careful with this,its one thing taking a risk with the 60th pick but a top 5 pick is all together different,Invite both guys to Valley Ranch and grill them.

Me too, now you add Elliot to the list, draft options are getting thin. Unless you are willing to risk a premium pick on a selfish personality.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

SWEET BABY JEEEBUS!



With Ramsey off the board, LBs Myles Jack an Jaylon Smith injuries, Bosa and Elliot party issues and Thornton/Crawford signings lessening the Buckner impact ... QB keeps creeping into my basement, of course Goff is clearly the best and ...reluctantly starting to favor him @ #4.

 

[CF74]

Zeke "Fails" on purpose to fall to 34...