John Harbaugh and Giants are working to finalize agreement to make him HC

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ElGatoGrande said:
NYG doesn't overshadow and destroy coaches like Dallas does, I expect Harbaugh will put together a quality team. They will destroy us, but, everybody owns us these days, so whatever. :(
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jerry might get things turned around soon
 
Rayman70 said:
Exactly. Jerry did try it with Parcels. Afterwards, never has again. We look unserious.
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Sorry but Mike Mccarthy has every good bit as good a resume as Harbaugh or tomlion, i'm sorry, he does it's all there in black and white he did a pretty good job here so don't say not since Parcells..

You all dismissing Mike Mccarthy shows that just because he has the name Harbaugh you automatically think he's better like Bill Belichick everyone say oh no but he's burnt out and washed up ,really, That the risk you take with Harbaugh as well how do you know you can recreate anything that he did anywhere beyond the slump he's in with the Ravens that's why he got fired I don't know of a single Super Bowl winning coach that went in one another Super Bowl anywhere else not yet it could happen it'll be a first sorry for the overreactions here are getting ridiculous and more ridiculous that this threat is going to get this long on somebody else's hire...?


Know what this reminds me of whenever we I should say you all wanted Jamal Adams so bad you wanted Earl Thomas so bad Eric Berry so bad..

Remember those threads telling Jerry he's so stupid he could have had this guy who could have had that guy and you know what thank God Jerry didn't go after any of those safeties at the time where we were so hungry for a safety because they were all pretty much overrated at the time they were no longer who they used to be Well I see this the same way Harbaugh is going to have to prove with this Giants team that he can do it again not just get to the playoffs because if they're 1 and done they did that with Daniel Jones and I don't know who the coach was at the time didn't that guy get fired?

I mean didn't Pederson what a Super Bowl with the girls three years later got fired hired with the Jags and guess what fired..

I hate being the voice of reason in here but I am sick of this thread already because it's all over the Internet not just here you all need to sit back stay calm and just let's see what happens you want to judge this in 2 or three years if somehow the Giants go back to a Super Bowl in a short amount of time and win one not the overreacts that Dan Quinn went to an NFC championship game and then drop right off again the next year you all are just making this so overrated..


Yes, he's a very good name, I will not undersell the fact that they hired a very good coach, but everything else is TBD...

it's INC

I don't see it much different than BS just went through... Most likely works because at least Harbaugh might have a little bit more cart blanch.

You're on a new team and you got to pretty much start trying to figure out how to convert it over to what you want it isn't always instant...
 
blueblood70 said:
Sorry but Mike Mccarthy has every good bit as good a resume as Harbaugh or tomlion, i'm sorry, he does it's all there in black and white he did a pretty good job here so don't say not since Parcells..

You all dismissing Mike Mccarthy shows that just because he has the name Harbaugh you automatically think he's better like Bill Belichick everyone say oh no but he's burnt out and washed up ,really, That the risk you take with Harbaugh as well how do you know you can recreate anything that he did anywhere beyond the slump he's in with the Ravens that's why he got fired I don't know of a single Super Bowl winning coach that went in one another Super Bowl anywhere else not yet it could happen it'll be a first sorry for the overreactions here are getting ridiculous and more ridiculous that this threat is going to get this long on somebody else's hire...?


Know what this reminds me of whenever we I should say you all wanted Jamal Adams so bad you wanted Earl Thomas so bad Eric Berry so bad..

Remember those threads telling Jerry he's so stupid he could have had this guy who could have had that guy and you know what thank God Jerry didn't go after any of those safeties at the time where we were so hungry for a safety because they were all pretty much overrated at the time they were no longer who they used to be Well I see this the same way Harbaugh is going to have to prove with this Giants team that he can do it again not just get to the playoffs because if they're 1 and done they did that with Daniel Jones and I don't know who the coach was at the time didn't that guy get fired?

I mean didn't Pederson what a Super Bowl with the girls three years later got fired hired with the Jags and guess what fired..

I hate being the voice of reason in here but I am sick of this thread already because it's all over the Internet not just here you all need to sit back stay calm and just let's see what happens you want to judge this in 2 or three years if somehow the Giants go back to a Super Bowl in a short amount of time and win one not the overreacts that Dan Quinn went to an NFC championship game and then drop right off again the next year you all are just making this so overrated..


Yes, he's a very good name, I will not undersell the fact that they hired a very good coach, but everything else is TBD...

it's INC

I don't see it much different than BS just went through... Most likely works because at least Harbaugh might have a little bit more cart blanch.

You're on a new team and you got to pretty much start trying to figure out how to convert it over to what you want it isn't always instant...
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Chill. I'm not dismissive of mm. He was a good hire. But Bill Parcels is a bigger fish. More success than Harbaugh actually. Has a better resume. I like Harbaugh alot, but people are getting way too enamored with him.
 
Listen, Harbaugh is a better coach than anyone the Giants have had since Tom Coughlin, but is that exactly a glowing endorsement?

He was in Baltimore a VERY long time and they decided to move on. Of course, sometimes a coach needs a new start elsewhere (Reid, Payton, etc.) but oftentimes they do not.

A team like New York has nowhere to go but up anyways. At the risk of sounding too dismissive I am not concerned about Harbaugh in New York. I am more concerned about the Cowboys getting their own defensive staff right. Then they can compete with anyone.
 
Rayman70 said:
Chill. I'm not dismissive of mm. He was a good hire. But Bill Parcels is a bigger fish. More success than Harbaugh actually. Has a better resume. I like Harbaugh alot, but people are getting way too enamored with him.
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No we're talking about Harbaugh being a big hire for the Giants don't try to skip over your point you tried to bask Jerry saying he hasn't done with the Giants just did since he hired Parcells and Mike Mccarthy was an equal hiring as Harbaugh was and we got in for a lot less money jerry's smarter than the Giants over paying for something they don't know is going to turn into gold..

That's all I meant you're trying to brush it over but no Mike Mccarthy was a Super Bowl winning head coach with a resume the same as Harbaugh so in fact he already did this before the Giants while they were hiring a bunch of no names How long has it been with guys that I never even heard of them before You know like they say Brian Schottenheimer at least I heard of him the last two head coaches for the Giants I've never heard of and yet they hired those dudes and Jerry did not so are we on the opposite train here that the Giants already made mistakes at head coach for the last 15 years so that they hired Harbaugh but Jerry's already tried Parcells and Mike Mccarthy I'd say that's an equal point..


Just pointing it out because some people think Harbaugh is such a smart move and something Jerry hasn't done since Parcells, you said it people believe it and I'm saying Mike Mccarthy was that guy regardless if he took a year off he was smart he recharged his batteries took a look at the league and tried to find ways to improve himself but it still doesn't change the fact that no other Super Bowl winning coach including Parcells ever reinvented himself elsewhere As a matter of fact him and Jim and Johnson disappeared not shortly after they left the Cowboys...
 
CT Dal Fan said:
Listen, Harbaugh is a better coach than anyone the Giants have had since Tom Coughlin, but is that exactly a glowing endorsement?

He was in Baltimore a VERY long time and they decided to move on. Of course, sometimes a coach needs a new start elsewhere (Reid, Payton, etc.) but oftentimes they do not.

A team like New York has nowhere to go but up anyways. At the risk of sounding too dismissive I am not concerned about Harbaugh in New York. I am more concerned about the Cowboys getting their own defensive staff right. Then they can compete with anyone.
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I agree!! :hammer:

they should get a pat on the back, they're finally doing it right But they act like somehow the Mara family smarter than the Cowboys, but their last two head coaches or three like you said since Tom Coughlin ,what were their names because I believe they had smaller names then Brian Shenheimer, and they tried that while Dallas hired Parcells and they hired Mike Mccarthy ,who's about on the same level as Harbaugh..

so somehow Jerry's getting dismissed as he never does this, but what Jerry didn't do is pay $20 million a year and give a long term contract to a head coach that's no better than Mike McCarthy, right now, at this point they have the same resume.

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I think they made a great hire it's a good change for them it might challenge Jerry in the division a little bit I'll give them that but that's good thing for Jerry they did not hire the defensive staff yet and maybe they even get more serious about the entire changes they make before game one which is a long ways away but in this ways maybe it wakes them up and go well we can't walk over to Giants as easily as before They should get a little bit better like you said up is all they have...

. Think somebody else mentioned it and I agree I think this will get Jerry's attention at the right moment while they're still building the new coaching staff they have a little bit more to watch in their division which is something they've counted on they nearly swept the division again this year with terrible D and questionable STs..
 
CT Dal Fan said:
Listen, Harbaugh is a better coach than anyone the Giants have had since Tom Coughlin, but is that exactly a glowing endorsement?

He was in Baltimore a VERY long time and they decided to move on. Of course, sometimes a coach needs a new start elsewhere (Reid, Payton, etc.) but oftentimes they do not.

A team like New York has nowhere to go but up anyways. At the risk of sounding too dismissive I am not concerned about Harbaugh in New York. I am more concerned about the Cowboys getting their own defensive staff right. Then they can compete with anyone.
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What happens if they continue to lose? Can't help but wonder how long harbaugh lasts in the fish bowl that is NYC. Has he gotten stale, outdated? Can he connect with today's players? The scrutiny in NYC is unlike anywhere else except Philly. It's a coaching graveyard both places. It claims the best of them. You gotta have early success in NYC or they will quickly turn on you. His assistant hires will be key. I bet he hires Greg Roman. He's available.
 
XXLMike said:
Schottenheimer makes $700 k lol
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You do realize that Schottenheimer never had any head coach experience? That is why he made $700,000, who would give $100 million to a coach that does not have any head coach experience?
 
ElGatoGrande said:
I might start dating Morena Baccarin tomorrow, but I wouldn't put money on that ...

Humor aside, I do think Jerry will improve the team this year, make the playoffs, get bounced.

https://tvdatabase.fandom.com/wiki/Morena_Baccarin?file=Morena_Baccarin_002.jpg
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Anybody who's followed Stargate knows who she is and she's been in more things since like deadpool and Sheriff Country... You know the spinoff of Fire Country which was shocking to me that she's now outside the sci-fi realm playing a sheriff of a small town in the northwest..


I didn't need a link for that and no you won't be dating her but if you are see if she's got a sister I'd like to go on a double date, She's definitely one of the sci-fi Popular Hot chicks from that era...
 
Rayman70 said:
What happens if they continue to lose? Can't help but wonder how long harbaugh lasts in the fish bowl that is NYC. Has he gotten stale, outdated? Can he connect with today's players? The scrutiny in NYC is unlike anywhere else except Philly. It's a coaching graveyard both places. It claims the best of them. You gotta have early success in NYC or they will quickly turn on you. His assistant hires will be key. I bet he hires Greg Roman. He's available.
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That's hilarious he'll bring back somebody his brother just fired that nobody thought was helping the Chargers and bring him to New York and everyone here thinks that's such a great thing more retries right I mean a $20 million retread bringing a whole bunch of retreads that haven't been able to recreate any success they used to have with their old name...LOL

funny thing is I mean the ravens already fired Orr is he still under contract?
 
blueblood70 said:
No we're talking about Harbaugh being a big hire for the Giants don't try to skip over your point you tried to bask Jerry saying he hasn't done with the Giants just did since he hired Parcells and Mike Mccarthy was an equal hiring as Harbaugh was and we got in for a lot less money jerry's smarter than the Giants over paying for something they don't know is going to turn into gold..

That's all I meant you're trying to brush it over but no Mike Mccarthy was a Super Bowl winning head coach with a resume the same as Harbaugh so in fact he already did this before the Giants while they were hiring a bunch of no names How long has it been with guys that I never even heard of them before You know like they say Brian Schottenheimer at least I heard of him the last two head coaches for the Giants I've never heard of and yet they hired those dudes and Jerry did not so are we on the opposite train here that the Giants already made mistakes at head coach for the last 15 years so that they hired Harbaugh but Jerry's already tried Parcells and Mike Mccarthy I'd say that's an equal point..


Just pointing it out because some people think Harbaugh is such a smart move and something Jerry hasn't done since Parcells, you said it people believe it and I'm saying Mike Mccarthy was that guy regardless if he took a year off he was smart he recharged his batteries took a look at the league and tried to find ways to improve himself but it still doesn't change the fact that no other Super Bowl winning coach including Parcells ever reinvented himself elsewhere As a matter of fact him and Jim and Johnson disappeared not shortly after they left the Cowboys...
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I'm bashing Jerry? No. Im saying it's been 30 years, we need to be more serious. All in hasn't been all in. I guess what I see as serious or unserious is different. I'm not that big a Harbaugh guy. But yes he's a good hc. Better than what they have had since Coughlin. Parcels was all in truly. Jerry let him bring in his own staff on both sides of the ball. Mike McCarthy didn't get the full autonomy that Bill received. To be fair to mm, that's not his fault. Good hc, but Parcels is better. Harbaugh better be what they paid for in short order.
 
Rayman70 said:
What happens if they continue to lose? Can't help but wonder how long harbaugh lasts in the fish bowl that is NYC. Has he gotten stale, outdated? Can he connect with today's players? The scrutiny in NYC is unlike anywhere else except Philly. It's a coaching graveyard both places. It claims the best of them. You gotta have early success in NYC or they will quickly turn on you. His assistant hires will be key. I bet he hires Greg Roman. He's available.
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That will be an interesting dynamic. The New York media is going to eat the team alive if they start losing right away or even if they struggle after a hot start. Harbaugh never dealt with that kind of negative attention in Baltimore. I'm sure he's taken his share of heat, but the NYC media is absolutely merciless.
 
blueblood70 said:
That's hilarious he'll bring back somebody his brother just fired that nobody thought was helping the Chargers and bring him to New York and everyone here thinks that's such a great thing more retries right I mean a $20 million retread bringing a whole bunch of retreads that haven't been able to recreate any success they used to have with their old name...LOL

funny thing is I mean the ravens already fired Orr is he still under contract?
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Not sure on Orr if he's under contract still. I'm not sure I want him. His record last couple years or rankings are low. But I can see harbaugh bringing him into NYC. Roman too. I do find it crazy how these retreads keep getting these gigs time and time again when they have no success largely.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
That will be an interesting dynamic. The New York media is going to eat the team alive if they start losing right away or even if they struggle after a hot start. Harbaugh never dealt with that kind of negative attention in Baltimore. I'm sure he's taken his share of heat, but the NYC media is absolutely merciless.
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This is a so true.
 
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