Joseph draft pick?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Verdict, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. Creeper

    Creeper Well-Known Member

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    That's a low bar. TB has been okay and better than Williams but he has not been particularly strong either. He gets no push just like Connor Williams. TB is really playing full time for the first time this year so we should cut him some slack and hope he improves in the ways Connor Williams has not.
     
  2. big dog cowboy

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    WOW those 3 years went by fast.
     
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  3. quickccc

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    He's been hurt and out most of the year with that groin injury. He's totally in the very back of the lunch line behind the big crowd.
    Really hasn't had a chance to compete.
     
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  4. Oz-of-Cowboy-Country

    Oz-of-Cowboy-Country Well-Known Member

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    There were four players on the want list from Cowboy fans.

    Surtain
    Horn
    Pitts
    Parsons

    Two of the four are corners. So, how did Dallas force a pick if the fans wanted a corner? Is it really a wasted pick if we're trying to eventually reduce Brown and/or Lewis' playing time? A lot of us thought Trysten Hill was a forced pick. Fast forward a couple of years later and Hill is our most productive DT.

    So my message to all is... relax and stop judging the book by its first chapter.
     
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  5. blueblood70

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    yo are not a professional discus away..im just going into give the place dose of reality..FYI you aren't football pros in anyway shape or from and questioning moves as if you could do better is an issue.. giant azz egos..

    Most of these professionals been doing this crap 30years, 90hrs week, and then they get called fat slow and stupid..from fat slow and stupid fans.they in fact did their time , they put in the time and effort to be called professionals and do not need some spare fans sit on the internet world questioning them as if you all effect the game somehow..
    #doseofrealtiy.

    grab your keyboard and hug it tight , ist all you got..
     
  6. kevm3

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    I hope this isn't another gregory pick where we have to wait 4 years later to get some real productivity
     
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  7. charron

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    i wasn't expecting any of the DB's we took in is years draft to come in and make huge contributions this year. Next year though we need to see them compete on game days.
     
  8. Risen Star

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    I see.

    So until three years is up all rookie classes shall be considered "phenomenal".
     
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  9. Ken

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    I expected him to be a starter by now. Having said that, Brown has been pretty darn good and I don't hold last week against him. That was horrific officiting IMO.

    If Brown has another bad game, or at least is now a PI machine, i expect we will see Bossman starting to get to see what he is capable of.

    Too early and I think his injury and Browns good play to this point have been against him.
     
  10. FiveSuperBowls

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    Joseph has missed time for different reasons, but he isn’t the only rookie draft pick to do so. But here is the thing, at this point we don’t know if he will be a boom or bust pick. We will find out later this year or most likely next.
     
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  11. JoeKing

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    I never liked the Joseph pick and I was regrettably right about that one. Now I'm hoping in year 2 he will make me eat those words.
     
  12. CowboyRoy

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    Oh yes he does. HE gets push in the run game, knows his assignments and makes the calls. Very intelligent guy. He needs to work on his strength in pass protection which is not uncommon for a young lineman.

    Biadasz is #1 in NFC pro bowl voting for centers. I think thats an acceptable bar.
     
  13. Irvin88_4life

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    It's because he was injured he hasn't played much this season. Plus he has a dawg mentality.

    Not every rookie comes in like Parsons and just plays great especially even out most the season so far due to injury.


    With Diggs, Brown and Lewis not many rookie corners would see a ton of snaps.

    Joseph will be a very good pick and you guys will jump on the bandwagon like you loved the pick the entire time
     
  14. DFWJC

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    I wasn't too bummed about taking a corner in the 2nd round, but I think most of us wanted them to take Asante Samuel over Joseph.
    Most of us like JOK as BPA, but we'd just taken an LB in the 1st so maybe that deterred us.
    And yeah, no doubt Creed Humphrey is a player. I just recall having hi slightly later...right or wrong.
     
  15. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    Weren't you the one that hated the Parsons puck as well
     
  16. RonWashington

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    Trevor Lawrence could use some help all over that building . Troy Aikman rookie yr 1-15 . He turned out ok .
     
  17. TheDude

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    I'm trying to finalize a draft framework that separates position players from CBs. Maybe if you decide you don't need a position player, you skip a pick and move up 10 spots in the CB draft.
     
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  18. America's Cowboy

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    I've been saying since before the draft that the Cowboys should have gone after monster DT Christian Barmore in the draft. When Barmore fell into the 2nd round, it would not have cost the Cowboys much to move up 6 spots from #44 up to #38 to draft Barmore where the Patriots moved up to get. This season, Christian Barmore has been a total beast for the Patriots while playing inside, clogging up the run inside while putting constant pressure on opposing QBs. 6'5", 330 lbs, strong, quick and aggressive, Christian Barmore has been a great pickup for the Patriots and one of the NFL's best interior D-linemen. Imagine where our Defense would be if Barmore was playing for the Cowboys? Once again, Jerry and his group fail badly at addressing our inner Dline and not getting a monster DT when he was available early in the draft. Idiots.
     
  19. Risen Star

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    Considering how few cornerbacks we have I would think we'd qualify for comp picks in that draft.
     
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  20. conner01

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    I hate “having to” because that’s how you get a taco
    It’s way too early to judge here but as a philosophy you never let yourself get in the position you have to draft a position
    If the player fills a need and is reasonably close to BPA then go for it
    Personally I didn’t see him as close to BPA or best even at his position
    But I’m hoping I’m wrong and we sure won’t know for Atleast a couple years
     

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