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some of the guys we see coming out right now, like Gurley, Gordon, Coleman, Ajayi, etc. If you take into account that this guy was selected in the 5th round and has found success in the limited chances he's had in our offense, it really makes you reconsider burning a 1st rounder on a RB which it seems the majority of the media are expecting us to do. *For the record I DO NOT want to keep Randle as I don't trust him at this point
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/joseph-randle?id=2540171

Joseph Randle
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 204 lbs
40 Time: 4.63
Vertical: 35"

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Productive back in the running and passing game. Possesses enough straight-line speed to eat up yardage when open lanes present themselves. Shows once wiggle in his game once past the line, gets would-be tacklers to lean the wrong way. Seems to fall forward a lot, and is adding weight to his frame each season to get stronger. Attacks targets as a blocker for bubble screens and two-back sets, also flashes the form and willingness to be an effective pass protector. Solid receiver on screens and over the middle; good hands to rein in wayward passes and his shifty hips make him elusive after the catch. Solid ball security, did not fumble in 251 touches in 2011.

WEAKNESSES
Taller back who will run a bit upright at times coming through the line or in the open field. Receiver-like build makes pushing the pile a chore. One-speed back without an elite burst, second gear or great acceleration in the open field. Must learn to explode from cuts using improving strength in his lower half. Struggles to anchor against larger defenders in pass protection, and will duck his head and dive at them instead of staying upright.

NFL COMPARISON
Fred Jackson

BOTTOM LINE
Part of Oklahoma State’s Pony Express Award-winning trio on offense in 2011 (1,216 rushing yards, 24 touchdowns), Randle brings power and a bit of wiggle to the field. In 2012 he added an explosive, more powerful element to his game, something that had been missed in previous seasons. He could challenge for the top running back spot.

Dallas News Scouting Report
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...-joseph-randle-scouting-report-and-film.html/

Scouting Report

I can’t emphasize enough how much Randle resembles DeMarco Murray. At 6-0, 204 pounds, he has the same type of build, albeit a bit leaner. Like Murray, Randle has an upright running style that could potentially lead to an unnecessarily high injury risk.

Randle’s biggest positive is that he’s a decisive, one-cut runner. He gets up the field in a hurry, making the most of his speed. Randle would be a natural fit in a zone-blocking scheme that emphasizes decisiveness over long speed—much like that for Arian Foster in Houston. You can see an example of Randle’s running style at the 4:45 mark below; that play was really made behind the line, where Randle side-stepped one defender and then exploded through the hole instead of dancing in the backfield.



Randle is a natural pass-catcher. When combined with his willingness to protect the quarterback, you have the makings of a potentially successful third-down back.

Despite all of his success in college, you have to wonder if Randle can overcome his lack of long speed. He ran a 4.63 40-yard dash at the Combine and then followed that up with times between 4.54 and 4.63 at his Pro Day. Simply put, he’s not a burner.

We can discuss the importance of lateral quickness all day, but you can’t overlook the fact that running backs who have clocked in around Randle’s time have recorded about one-sixth the NFL production of those who ran as fast as Murray (4.41). That doesn’t mean Randle can’t possible succeed in the NFL, but the odds are against him. If the job of NFL teams is to maximize their chances of hitting on any given pick, it’s hard to justify using a mid-round selection on a lean running back with sub-par speed.

Fit In Dallas

Randle’s running style would actually be a good fit in Dallas, and he seems like the exact type of player that would interest the ‘Boys. I’m concerned the Cowboys might view Randle as a Murray clone—and thus inflate his value—when he’s really just a slowed-down version of Murray.

BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1 Scouting Report:
http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/scoutingreport2013jrandle.php

Bleacher Report Scouting Report:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-report-nfl-outlook-for-oklahoma-state-rb
 

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Scouting reports to me are just words. And it's fun how often one will contridict the other.

Just because the scouting reports look similar doesnt mean they are the same class of player. Also keep in mind, those scouting reports are "product"
 

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T.J. Yeldon (RB)
HT: 6'1" WT: 226LBS.

POSITION: RB

SCHOOL: Alabama

ARM LENGTH: 31 5/8"

HANDS: 9"


Overview
2014: Second-team All-SEC. Played in 13 games, 10 starts. 2013: First-team All-SEC. Played in 12 games with 11 starts. 2012: All-Freshman SEC selection. Played in 12 games with 10 starts. First Alabama true freshman to rush for

1,000 yards while backing up Eddie Lacy.


Pro Day Results

40-yard dash: 4.52 and 4.53 seconds


COMBINE STATS
  • 40 YARD DASH: 4.61 SEC
  • BENCH PRESS: 22 REPS
  • VERTICAL JUMP: 36.0 INCH
  • BROAD JUMP: 117.0 INCH
  • 3 CONE DRILL: 7.19 SEC
  • 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.22 SEC

ANALYSIS
Strengths
Has good size with room on his frame to add more bulk. Exceptional hips and foot quickness, using both to weave and dart through the trash between tackles. Quick, decisive reads on zone plays. Has ankle flexion to dip, one-cut and burst through second level and into the third. Creative runner showing innate feel for running lanes. Anticipates creases that are developing and makes himself skinny to squeeze through. Effortless lateral movement. Can make tacklers miss and change tackle angles in confined quarters. Above average out of backfield and after the catch. Productive when playing through pain.

Weaknesses
Upright runner in space, opening himself and the ball up to big hits. Pad level too high at point of collision. Mediocre power for size. Doesn't push the pile and won't run through many tackles. Pass protection lacking. Throws shoulder at pass rusher rather than squaring up and taking on with good posture. Tends to bounce and juke a little too long at the second level. Must improve ball security after fumbling 10 times over 576 career carries. Needs to improve willingness to keep play flowing play-side rather than over-thinking cutbacks.

Draft Projection
Round 2 or 3

NFL Comparison
Terrance West

Bottom Line
Instinctive, athletic running back who has the foot quickness to create for himself when lanes constrict or blocks are missed. Yeldon lacks the ball security, top-end speed and desired tackle breaking to be a full-time starter. He's a versatile, rotational back with the ability to step in and step up.
 

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Scouting reports to me are just words. And it's fun how often one will contridict the other.

Just because the scouting reports look similar doesnt mean they are the same class of player. Also keep in mind, those scouting reports are "product"

Right but these reports are what fuel the discussions you see on sites like this. It's what makes us choose this guy over that guy. I don't watch college football, but I do enjoy watching highlight films and reading scouting reports to get a good feel for who Id like to see us draft.
 

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Right but these reports are what fuel the discussions you see on sites like this. It's what makes us choose this guy over that guy. I don't watch college football, but I do enjoy watching highlight films and reading scouting reports to get a good feel for who Id like to see us draft.
I understand that, and they are good information. But you have to be very leary of comparing players based on written SR's. As a sole base of information, it gives a very narrow view
 

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I like Randle but my concern with him and most of the other options is pass pro. Hate to see the season laying there in a heap because someone refused to stick in there.
 

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some of the guys we see coming out right now, like Gurley, Gordon, Coleman, Ajayi, etc. If you take into account that this guy was selected in the 5th round and has found success in the limited chances he's had in our offense, it really makes you reconsider burning a 1st rounder on a RB which it seems the majority of the media are expecting us to do. *For the record I DO NOT want to keep Randle as I don't trust him at this point
Check it out

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/joseph-randle?id=2540171

Joseph Randle
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 204 lbs
40 Time: 4.63
Vertical: 35"

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Productive back in the running and passing game. Possesses enough straight-line speed to eat up yardage when open lanes present themselves. Shows once wiggle in his game once past the line, gets would-be tacklers to lean the wrong way. Seems to fall forward a lot, and is adding weight to his frame each season to get stronger. Attacks targets as a blocker for bubble screens and two-back sets, also flashes the form and willingness to be an effective pass protector. Solid receiver on screens and over the middle; good hands to rein in wayward passes and his shifty hips make him elusive after the catch. Solid ball security, did not fumble in 251 touches in 2011.

WEAKNESSES
Taller back who will run a bit upright at times coming through the line or in the open field. Receiver-like build makes pushing the pile a chore. One-speed back without an elite burst, second gear or great acceleration in the open field. Must learn to explode from cuts using improving strength in his lower half. Struggles to anchor against larger defenders in pass protection, and will duck his head and dive at them instead of staying upright.

NFL COMPARISON
Fred Jackson

BOTTOM LINE
Part of Oklahoma State’s Pony Express Award-winning trio on offense in 2011 (1,216 rushing yards, 24 touchdowns), Randle brings power and a bit of wiggle to the field. In 2012 he added an explosive, more powerful element to his game, something that had been missed in previous seasons. He could challenge for the top running back spot.

Dallas News Scouting Report
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...-joseph-randle-scouting-report-and-film.html/

Scouting Report

I can’t emphasize enough how much Randle resembles DeMarco Murray. At 6-0, 204 pounds, he has the same type of build, albeit a bit leaner. Like Murray, Randle has an upright running style that could potentially lead to an unnecessarily high injury risk.

Randle’s biggest positive is that he’s a decisive, one-cut runner. He gets up the field in a hurry, making the most of his speed. Randle would be a natural fit in a zone-blocking scheme that emphasizes decisiveness over long speed—much like that for Arian Foster in Houston. You can see an example of Randle’s running style at the 4:45 mark below; that play was really made behind the line, where Randle side-stepped one defender and then exploded through the hole instead of dancing in the backfield.



Randle is a natural pass-catcher. When combined with his willingness to protect the quarterback, you have the makings of a potentially successful third-down back.

Despite all of his success in college, you have to wonder if Randle can overcome his lack of long speed. He ran a 4.63 40-yard dash at the Combine and then followed that up with times between 4.54 and 4.63 at his Pro Day. Simply put, he’s not a burner.

We can discuss the importance of lateral quickness all day, but you can’t overlook the fact that running backs who have clocked in around Randle’s time have recorded about one-sixth the NFL production of those who ran as fast as Murray (4.41). That doesn’t mean Randle can’t possible succeed in the NFL, but the odds are against him. If the job of NFL teams is to maximize their chances of hitting on any given pick, it’s hard to justify using a mid-round selection on a lean running back with sub-par speed.

Fit In Dallas

Randle’s running style would actually be a good fit in Dallas, and he seems like the exact type of player that would interest the ‘Boys. I’m concerned the Cowboys might view Randle as a Murray clone—and thus inflate his value—when he’s really just a slowed-down version of Murray.

BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1 Scouting Report:
http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/scoutingreport2013jrandle.php

Bleacher Report Scouting Report:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-report-nfl-outlook-for-oklahoma-state-rb


Teams knew that Randle had character/personality issues before the draft and that cause him to fall. It was not widely reported at the time by the draft media, IIRC, but it was known that he had issues.

Watch 3 of Randle's college games and 3 of Ameer Abdullah and I think would will find Randle to the better player and that's not even considering Abdullah's extreme fumble problems. They're about the same weight and had similar measured speed.
 

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I like Randle but my concern with him and most of the other options is pass pro. Hate to see the season laying there in a heap because someone refused to stick in there.

I didn't see any significant problems for him in Pass Pro in 2014.
 

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Teams knew that Randle had character/personality issues before the draft and that cause him to fall. It was not widely reported at the time by the draft media, IIRC, but it was known that he had issues.

Watch 3 of Randle's college games and 3 of Ameer Abdullah and I think would will find Randle to the better player and that's not even considering Abdullah's extreme fumble problems. They're about the same weight and had similar measured speed.

They are very similar players
 
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