Josh Wilson - Maryland Terps

Champsheart

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We got any Terp Fans out there, or people who have seen Maryland games.

What is up with Josh Wilson?

I did not know anything about him until a couple of days ago, but everything I am reading about him I like. If we do not go WR one day 1, he may be a really nice 2nd round pick.

Is there anybody out there who has actually seen him play that can give some opinions?
 

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Nice post. I was wondering the same thing. Is he or Jonathan Wade worth a 2nd rder?
 

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Josh Wilson
Height: 5-9
Weight: 188
Position: Cornerback
College: Maryland


OVERVIEW

One of the fastest players to ever don a Terrapins uniform, Wilson is an avid workout warrior, having won Iron Terp honors in 2005. He also excelled in the classroom and was the recipient of the James Tatum Award, given to the top football student-athlete in the Atlantic Coast Conference. He was also a two-time Academic All-ACC choice.

The two-year starter at the boundary cornerback position, Wilson appeared in 46 of a possible 48 games at Maryland, starting 28 times. Despite not handling kickoff return duties until his final season, he ranks eighth on the school's career record list with 847 yards in returns. He also excelled on special teams, blocking three kicks over the course of his two years starting in the secondary.

ANALYSIS

Positives: Has a lean frame, but it shows good overall body definition … Very strong for a player of his size (350-pound bench press) and uses that to his advantage with his physical play in attempts to press and re-route receivers … A little stiff in his hips, but has very good closing speed to consistently make plays in front of him … Shows valid ball skills and keen field instincts and is rarely caught out of position … Has the sustained quickness to stay on the hip of the receiver throughout the route, and is such a hard hitter that the staff had confidence when lining him up at safety … Bit of a trash talker, but did mature quite a bit as a senior … Best when tracking the ball in flight, as he has the burst to cover ground and break on the ball … Has the awareness needed to read routes and anticipate secondary receiver moves in zone coverage … Aggressive attacking the ball and, while he lacks the loose hips you'd like in man coverage, very few opponents can shake free from him in the open (mostly due to his ability to read routes and quickly recover when beaten) … Needs backpedal technique work (stiff hips), but shows decent balance and the ability to maintain position coming out of breaks … The feel he has playing in the zone reminds you of another undersized Maryland cornerback, Domonique Foxworth, who tutored Wilson earlier in his career … Does a nice job of locating receivers and handling the switch-off when playing the deep zone … Has a good sense to anticipate the plays and shows good closing speed and breakdown ability working in space, especially against the outside running game … Needs to improve his range (needs to build up to top speed and is not sudden, despite his rare timed quickness), but shows good ball skills and timing … Has improved his ability to stick his feet to transition out of his breaks quicker than in the past … Gets banged up a bit working in traffic, but shows the timing and leaping ability to compete for jump balls … Does a nice job of adjusting and reaching around the receiver to break-up passes … Doesn't have natural hands, but has the functional ball skills to adjust on the move and track the ball in flight … Likes to close on the ball in a hurry, especially in run force (lacks the size, but plays with good toughness, using his hands to shed and plays with good leverage) … His vertical agility lets him get to a lot of high passes in attempts to break up the play (good on the tip drill) … Needs to be a more consistent wrap-up tackler, but hits with good pop on contact and shows decent knee bend and balance to fit in space … Plays with a high motor and it is rare to see him throttle down, even when not involved in the play … His leaping ability has also seen him excel as a kick blocker … His straight-line speed and ability to build acceleration makes him a valid threat as a kickoff returner, but ball security is an issue there (five fumbles, three lost on kickoffs in 2006) … Seems to thrive in pressure situations and plays his best vs. top-level competition (will generally cover the opponent's top receiving threat).

Negatives: Plays like he a linebacker, but his small frame takes an unnecessary beating and, while he has not missed game action with injuries, they have cost him some practice time (in 2006, he was forced to wear a boot on his foot after injuring it when stepped on in the Florida International game) … Has hip stiffness that prevents him from opening them and it causes him to get high in his backpedal (result is a herky-jerky running motion coming out of breaks) … Team leader, but a bit of a high-maintenance type who will question the staff quite a bit … Times his leaps well, but the bigger receivers still have an advantage on him competing for jump balls (will give total effort combating for the ball, though) … Needs to be a more consistent wrap-up tackler, as he gets reckless, flies to the ball and tries to deliver a punishing arm tackle, but due to size issues, the bigger receivers and backs are able to absorb those blows and break tackles … Has very good timed speed, but needs to build up to top acceleration and this takes some time to accomplish … Needs to allow a smaller cushion, especially with his hip stiffness, as the faster NFL receivers could take advantage of the space he allows underneath … Active with his hands, but doesn't have the size to face up to offensive linemen and his frame appears to be at maximum growth potential without more weight impacting his quickness … Effective kickoff returner, but has ball security issues (five fumbles in 2006) returning kicks and needs to have the ball tucked and secure before heading up field … The staff says he has natural hands, but along with fumble issues, he fails to catch the ball outside his frame when attempting to reach the pass at its high point and will double catch quite a bit, leading to more pass deflections than interceptions … Has shorter than ideal arms (28 7/8-inch length) that will cause him to have problems vs. the taller receivers in jump ball situations.

Compares To: Domonique Foxworth, Denver -- Like his former teammate, Wilson packs a lot of punch behind his hits for a player his size … He is a smart player who adjusts his game accordingly and has the ability to play cornerback or free safety … He has good speed as a kickoff returner, but needs to field the ball cleanly to stop all those costly fumbles … Despite his speed, he lacks explosion coming out of his breaks and plays the zone much better than he does in man coverage (much better in plays in front of him) … He got away with trash talking at the collegiate level, but needs to open his hips better and develop better hands if he wants to be an elite playmaker at the next level.

INJURY REPORT

2004: Bothered early in the season by a left knee ruptured bursa sac.

2005: Suffered a 12-inch gash on his left shin during early August camp, but did not miss any game action … Missed the second half of the North Carolina game (Nov. 12) after suffering a concussion.

2006: Missed most of practice leading up to the Florida International game (Sept. 23) due to a foot sprain that forced him to wear a protective boot to classes.

AGILITY TESTS

Campus: 4.28 in the 40-yard dash … 350-pound bench press … 495-pound squat … 300-pound power clean … 36½-inch vertical jump … 28 7/8-inch arm length … 8 7/8-inch arm length … Right-handed.

Combine: 4.42 in the 40-yard dash … 1.56 10-yard dash … 2.58 20-yard dash … 4.43 20-yard shuttle … 11.64 60-yard shuttle … 7.07 three-cone drill … 26½-inch vertical jump … 10-foot broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 20 times.

PERSONAL

Graduated in December 2006 with a degree in Marketing … Earned Academic All-Atlantic Coast Conference honors in each of his last two years … Son of Valanda and the late Timothy Wilson … His father helped the Terps capture the Atlantic Coast Conference title in each of his three years at the school and went on to a career in the National Football League where he was the blocking back for NFL Hall of Fame halfback Earl Campbell with the Houston Oilers … Josh still carries his father's NFL trading card for good luck … Josh's mother is currently enrolled at the School of Business at Maryland … Born Joshua Wilson on Mar. 11, 1985 … Resides in Upper Marlboro, Md.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/wilson_josh
 

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maryland hmmmmm... isnt that where their last 2 1st rounders all of a sudden became monsters before the draft? vernon davis and shawne merrinman... hope wilson isnt on the sauce too
 

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BLT;1458479 said:
maryland hmmmmm... isnt that where their last 2 1st rounders all of a sudden became monsters before the draft? vernon davis and shawne merrinman... hope wilson isnt on the sauce too

wasn't foxworth a Terp as well?

I don't know much about Wilson either. I did hear Mayock said if he was a few inches taller that he would be in competition with the other top cb's in the draft.
 

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I live in the DC area, so I've seen Wilson play more than a couple times. IMO he's a solid CB, not spectacular but solid. Would make a good potential replacement for Glenn. He has better overall cover skills than Foxworth and he has pretty good return ability. Think along the lines of a poor man's Dre Bly when he 1st came into the league. With a year or 2 of seasoning he would be a good starter.
 

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Rather have somebody with a little more size if we go CB in the second.

Courtney Brown perhaps...
 

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If I'm not mistaken, his dad was Earl Campbell's lead blocker. I'm guessing the Phillips know the family.
 

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KD;1458507 said:
Rather have somebody with a little more size if we go CB in the second.

Courtney Brown perhaps...
Normally I would agree with that, but look at his bench reps and the strength he has. A smallish guy like that can be dangerous at the LOS bumping guys off their routes.
 

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carphalen5150;1458537 said:
Normally I would agree with that, but look at his bench reps and the strength he has. A smallish guy like that can be dangerous at the LOS bumping guys off their routes.

Look at Aaron Glenn who probably does as good of a job on a guy like plaxico Burress as anyone despite his small size. An inch or two doesn't really bother me too much.
 

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chicago JK;1458540 said:
Look at Aaron Glenn who probably does as good of a job on a guy like plaxico Burress as anyone despite his small size. An inch or two doesn't really bother me too much.
True, but Glenn is more of a technique guy to me...Wilson would be able to get into some grills with his strength.
 

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carphalen5150;1458537 said:
Normally I would agree with that, but look at his bench reps and the strength he has. A smallish guy like that can be dangerous at the LOS bumping guys off their routes.

Strength can be worked on.

I am sure we have a superior strength program compared to Cal
Poly.

Here are some of his measurables....

6”1 3/8 205
4.3-4.35 speed
41 ½ vertical
1.46 10 yard dash
4.07 shuttle
9 ½ inch hands


Here are some on Newmans...


5"10 185
4.2-4.3 speed
41 inch vertical
1.56 10 yard dash
3.83 shuttle
8 3/4 inch hands

Not saying he is anywhere on Newmans level, but as I stated before, in the second I'd take him because of talent and size alone.
 

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You hit it on the head, ddh33. Josh's dad, Tim Wilson was the lead blocker for the Oilers when Earl was toting the rock. I happen to work with his aunt, and she says he is excited and nervous about the draft. He has visited NE and Baltimore for sure, but would make a good nickel corner for us. He has return abiltity, as he lead Maryland to an upset victory over overrated Fla. State this past season.
 

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ddh33;1458512 said:
If I'm not mistaken, his dad was Earl Campbell's lead blocker. I'm guessing the Phillips know the family.

Tim Wilson was his Dad? I didn't know that. That would make sense as I believe that Tim Wilson played for Maryland as well, if I'm not mistaken.

Hum, well, I think the 2nd is a bit too early for him but I think he's exactly the type of nickel CB you look for. Would be better if he could catch the ball but if you can get a player like this in say the 4th Rd, then it would be an excellent pick IMO.
 

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He's too short for me and has shorter than normal arms as well. Jumps well but that isn't going to help with taller WRs. Doesn't catch well. There are too many taller CBs who are just as good and more than a few with his speed.

Cole outta Northwestern is someone to watch. He has sub 4.3 speed if you want to talk fast.
 

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KD;1458564 said:
6”1 3/8 205
4.3-4.35 speed
41 ½ vertical
1.46 10 yard dash
4.07 shuttle
9 ½ inch hands

Who's measurables are these?
 

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Courtney Brown

CB Cal Poly

6”1 3/8 205
4.3-4.35 speed
41 ½ vertical
1.46 10 yard dash
4.07 shuttle
9 ½ inch hands

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KD;1458760 said:
Courtney Brown

CB Cal Poly

6”1 3/8 205
4.3-4.35 speed
41 ½ vertical
1.46 10 yard dash
4.07 shuttle
9 ½ inch hands

557044.jpeg

That's pretty impressive stuff right there. Does he have instincts?
 

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tomson75;1458771 said:
That's pretty impressive stuff right there. Does he have instincts?
I hear he hunts in a pack, AND forages for food - without being told.

Also, Josh Wilson is a nice second round pick. Might be a little high, but the guy is tough, has a good nose for the football and most of the things he struggles with are teachable, with his athleticism. I'm completely biased as a Terps fan, but I'd like to see us draft him.
 

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tomson75;1458771 said:
That's pretty impressive stuff right there. Does he have instincts?


Here is some info on the kid.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=21669

3/13/07 - Stock Rising: The most impressive overall workout of the early Pro Day sessions unquestionably belongs to Cal Poly CB Courtney Brown. Not invited to the Combine due to questions about his speed, Brown's efforts March 6 at San Jose State silenced critics in exactly 4.35 seconds. After running that first blistering time, Brown's second attempt was timed at 4.32, matching the top time in Indianapolis this year (Arkansas CB Chris Houston). Brown wasn't only fast, his 41.5-inch vertical jump, 10'11" broad jump and 4.07-second short shuttle were also among the elite turned in by any athlete at the Combine or subsequent Pro Days. Perhaps most exciting is the fact that Brown is hardly considered a workout warrior. He missed nearly the entire 2004 season with a torn ACL, but returned in 2005 to earn D-IAA All-American honors with seven interceptions. Timed at a 4.60 last spring, Brown entered his senior season discounted by some scouts, yet rarely challenged by the opposition, leading to less than eye-popping statistics in 2006 (one interception, seven pass break ups, 55 tackles). With size, athleticism and obvious upside, Brown certainly won't be overlooked any more.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/brown_courtney



Positives: Hard work during the 2006 offseason saw Brown increase his bulk and improve his overall muscle definition … Has a tight waist with tapered thighs and calves, long arms and adequate chest thickness … Generally lines up against the opponent's best receiver and shows good confidence in his ability as a shutdown cornerback (did not allow any receptions in three games in 2006) … Builds to top speed in a hurry and shows good open-field acceleration to close on the ball … Has above average agility, balance and body control, along with adequate hip snap to stay tight on the receiver throughout the route … Best when utilized in man or press coverage, but needs to show better aggression in run support … Product of the weight room, demonstrating better force behind his hits in 2006 than he did in the past … Self-starter who prefers his own privacy, but is well-respected by the staff and liked by his teammates … Reads the pass quickly and does a good job of recognizing the routes … Instinctive open-field tackler who has the hand strength to press and re-route the receiver … Uses his speed well to lock on and mirror the receiver in one-one-one situations … Smooth and effortless runner who reads the quarterback's release quickly and redirects to the ball in a flash … Shows good zone awareness, striking and jolting the receivers with force in press coverage … Has the catch-up speed and range to get to the ball immediately in pursuit … Adjusts to the receiver's moves well and shows the burst to close on plays in front of him … Shows natural hand extension to catch the ball outside the frame and has the speed to recover and get back in the play when he over-runs the ball … Times his jumps and will compete for the ball at its high point … Not an explosive tackler, but is effective at wrapping and has the functional strength to bring down ball carriers in one-on-one situations … Takes good angles and plays tight in man coverage, using his hands effectively to strike in the bump-and-run.



Negatives: Needs to refine his footwork in his backpedal, as he appears to round his breaks and lacks crisp plant-and-drive agility … Plays too aggressive at times and will get caught out of position when he peeks into the backfield too long … Does not always recognize when his cushion is broken, but has the burst to recover … Needs to play vs. the run with more aggression, as he seems to hesitate to stick his head in the pile and gets blocked often by the bigger linemen … Shows some hesitation in his transition, mostly when he side pedals … Needs to do a better job of breaking down plays in the open (gets out of control at times).




Compares To: Chris McAlister, Baltimore -- Brown has exceptional quickness and is a big cornerback with natural hands for the interception, but like McAlister he tends to like making open-field tackles or attacking the ball rather than play in run support. He has a developing frame with good strength, showing it well when jamming receivers, but is not an explosive tackler. He will bring good value in the nickel and dime packages, but needs to get more aggressive in run force.
 
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