Judge orders settlement date on Peterson

[big dog cowboy]

Man it is still going to suck to have Hardy out for a minimum of 2 games. Those first 2 games are huge against the Giants at home and then on the road vs the Eagles. 2 divisional games. Both teams always play us tough too. Would be nice to start off 2-0 and against division rivals.

When we do start off 2-0 and Hardy returns it will be even sweeter.

 

[Nightman]

It is all based on the alledged criminal act.
The judicial process will be complete after the court date and the mediation and will determine if the league acted outside of the collective bargaining agreements rules about discipline.

There is still a chance Hardy gets 0 games. The precedence for a DV arrest without a conviction was 0 games. As Judge Doty noted in the Peterson appeal, the maximum penalty was 2 games.

 

[ufcrules1]

When we do start off 2-0 and Hardy returns it will be even sweeter.

That would be fantastic! The flip side would be pretty scary though.

 

[Hoofbite]

Those against the judicial process please let us all know how it's flawed in this case. Seems as though Hardy, an American citizen, can't be convicted and sentenced unreasonably despite what you think you know.

His punishment is not being handed down by the judicial system. You do know that, correct?

 

[tyke1doe]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ettlement-talk-nfl-union-adrian-peterson-case

It is set for half an hour after the contempt hearing, which basically boxes the NFL into having to come up with a decision on the 13th that is in keeping with Doty's decision on the same day.

I'm guessing they'll be forced to drop his suspension to 2 games, and as a result may have to drop Hardy's to 2 games.

Yep.

It will be two games.

 

[anava]

Has Hardy came out and said he is going to contest his ruling?

 

[tyke1doe]

Those against the judicial process please let us all know how it's flawed in this case. Seems as though Hardy, an American citizen, can't be convicted and sentenced unreasonably despite what you think you know.

I don't think anyone was against the judicial process. The argument was that the judicial process and the NFL punishing players regardless of a judicial process are separate issues.
Now that these cases have gone to a judge, it becomes a judicial/legal issue.
And mind you, the court isn't saying that the NFL doesn't have the right to punish players, just that the NFL has to abide by its own policies.

 

[tyke1doe]

This is a bad analysis of the situation.

There is criminal, civil, and private actions.

There was a criminal case against Hardy. He was cleared at the end of it.

The NFL is a private enterprise. It is allowed to discipline Hardy within the confines of the CBA.

The NFL went outside of the CBA in disciplining Hardy. As a result a civil suit was brought against them.

None of this has to do with the criminal element of it anymore.

You said it better than I did.

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm sorry, but I'm getting a bit tired of having to explain this.

In the contempt motion, Hardy is directly cited. If the NFLPA wins on the Peterson case, they will certainly appeal on Hardy's as well.

After reading that, it's almost a given that Hardy will only sit out two games.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But the NFL said it was 'conduct detrimental' and not DV.

 

[tyke1doe]

That would be fantastic! The flip side would be pretty scary though.

The flip side? Us going 0-2?

 

[Alexander]

Has Hardy came out and said he is going to contest his ruling?

No, just saying he will know what he is going to do, "very soon".

I fail to see what Peterson's case has to do with Hardy's in the first place.

 

[Galian Beast]

But the NFL said it was 'conduct detrimental' and not DV.

You can color a pig any color you want, but it is still a pig.

 

[Kaiser]

 

[Wood]

Has Hardy came out and said he is going to contest his ruling?

Mike Florio reported that Hardy would fight any suspension longer than 2 games. There were conflicting reports of Hardy 'tiring' of dealing with this issue but Florio came back next day with source close to Hardy that said the NFL intentional dragging their feet on ruling only made Hardy dig in. There really is nothing to lose from Hardy angle. If he wins its another million dollars in his pocket.

 

[Rogah]

Has Hardy came out and said he is going to contest his ruling?

No, which suggests it's not quite as open-and-closed as some in here think.

 

[Nightman]

I'm sorry, but I'm getting a bit tired of having to explain this.

In the contempt motion, Hardy is directly cited. If the NFLPA wins on the Peterson case, they will certainly appeal on Hardy's as well.

You were completely wrong about the Hardy appeal with Henderson so I don't know if it is wise to throw around snide remarks when people have legitimate questions.

 

[Nightman]

No, which suggests it's not quite as open-and-closed as some in here think.

If he is already rolled up into the Peterson appeal/contempt case he may not have to do anything.

I think that is what GB keeps yelling about.

But as far as Hardy's case is concerned it is very strong, a lot stronger than Brady's.

 

[Rogah]

If he is already rolled up into the Peterson appeal/contempt case he may not have to do anything.

I think that is what GB keeps yelling about.

But as far as Hardy's case is concerned it is very strong, a lot stronger than Brady's.

I agree he has a strong case relating to the process of the CBA (as does Brady). I think if he sues, he probably wins a reduction to 2 games. No one (outside this forum) thinks 0 games is a realistic possibility so my whole point is he may decide the negative publicity and/or risk of those pictures leaking out might not be worth the 2 game reduction.

 

[Wood]

I agree he has a strong case relating to the process of the CBA (as does Brady). I think if he sues, he probably wins a reduction to 2 games. No one (outside this forum) thinks 0 games is a realistic possibility so my whole point is he may decide the negative publicity and/or risk of those pictures leaking out might not be worth the 2 game reduction.

certainly a factor but don't under-estimate a player financial motives on 'games played' contract.